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  1. #1601
    Quote Originally Posted by 1BGDOG View Post
    And you are who again???
    That's right.... on the wrong side of history.
    People who stood up against the rise of totalitarian regimes throughout our history could be said to be on the wrong side of history, but it doesn't mean they were wrong to stand up. If the only legacy I leave is that I stood against the tearing down of the greatest nation in the history of mankind, I will be proud to be counted among those that were "on the wrong side of history".

    What does any of that have to do with the fact that you either dont have a basic understanding of, or a belief in, a constitutional republic?
    " A mans rights rest in three boxes; the ballot box, the jury box, and the cartridge box" Fredrick Douglass
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  2. #1602
    Quote Originally Posted by creepycrawler View Post
    So called vp harris says steps need to be taken to protect the vaccinated.


    Ummmm what? I thought thats what the vaccine was supposed to do.


    From Fox News - Kamala Harris questioned after announcing steps for ‘protecting the vaccinated’: ‘Doesn’t the vax do that?’
    Kamala Harris questioned after announcing steps for ‘protecting the vaccinated’: ‘Doesn’t the vax do that?’

    https://www.foxnews.com/media/harris-vaccine-tweet
    And I again ask, why are they pushing so hard to force an ineffective "vaccine" and at the same time suppressing therapies with a far greater efficacy? Is it simply about power and control, or is there something else going on?

  3. #1603
    You must not have been paying attention at all during the administration of 45...
    And how a constitutional republic works, honestly.
    But you aren't one of those people either standing against whatever Sancho.... you are rather misguided in your "beliefs"
    You know this in your heart.
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    Quote Originally Posted by noahfecks View Post
    People who stood up against the rise of totalitarian regimes throughout our history could be said to be on the wrong side of history, but it doesn't mean they were wrong to stand up. If the only legacy I leave is that I stood against the tearing down of the greatest nation in the history of mankind, I will be proud to be counted among those that were "on the wrong side of history".

    What does any of that have to do with the fact that you either dont have a basic understanding of, or a belief in, a constitutional republic?
    Last edited by 1BGDOG; September 14th, 2021 at 01:07 PM.
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  4. #1604
    What is this the sixth or seventh right wing/conservative talk show host to die unnecessarily?
    And yet the "big boys/girls" haven't... I wonder what the difference is.... oh yeah they are vaccinated but spew lies about the vaccine...


    Sounded like a good person...

    On his old TV show, Bob Enyart Live, the host would “gleefully read obituaries of AIDS sufferers while cranking ‘Another One Bites the Dust’ by Queen,” Westword reported.

    https://www.denverpost.com/2021/09/1...tm_source=digg
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    Quote Originally Posted by 1BGDOG View Post
    What is this the sixth or seventh right wing/conservative talk show host to die unnecessarily?
    And yet the "big boys/girls" haven't... I wonder what the difference is.... oh yeah they are vaccinated but spew lies about the vaccine...


    Sounded like a good person...

    On his old TV show, Bob Enyart Live, the host would “gleefully read obituaries of AIDS sufferers while cranking ‘Another One Bites the Dust’ by Queen,” Westword reported.

    https://www.denverpost.com/2021/09/1...tm_source=digg
    How is Bob any different than what you do right on this thread posting about people who disagreed with vaxxes and later died while you proffer a fake degree of solemnness to cover your dancing feet? Same same.
    Proudly un-offended.

  6. #1606
    What I would like to know is why it is okay to bully, harass, isolate, and coerce over a vaccine but for every other reason that behavior isn't tolerated? How does not having a vaccine make anyone less of a human being than someone that does? Is that a reason to treat them poorly?

    Has fear taken over people's humanity

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    At no point did I proffer solemness in regards to good ol Bob... he sounded and acted like a person with no compassion. I wish folks get vaccinated, because folks on their death bed are begging for the vaccine.
    And what is weird is they didn't have to die... but made a choice to.


    Quote Originally Posted by Clod Hopper View Post
    How is Bob any different than what you do right on this thread posting about people who disagreed with vaxxes and later died while you proffer a fake degree of solemnness to cover your dancing feet? Same same.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chester70-2 View Post
    What I would like to know is why it is okay to bully, harass, isolate, and coerce over a vaccine but for every other reason that behavior isn't tolerated? How does not having a vaccine make anyone less of a human being than someone that does? Is that a reason to treat them poorly?

    Has fear taken over people's humanity

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    Perfect post and I totally agree with the bold.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ASCTLC View Post
    CO latest is near 900 people in the hospital with covid. That doesn't tell anyone anything...as long as there's intentional, or even unintentional, misuse of basic english language people who actually paid attention in elementary school or went to a school that even taught basic english isn't ever going to be persuaded or convinced about covid and vaccines about covid. The pandemic peddlers can use all the hyped up scare tactics and mandates they want it still isn't going to persuade people who see their 2+2=7 arguments.

    I'll bet you there are far more than 900 people in the hospital with advanced gingivitis but that, like "with covid", doesn't mean shit. So the new special use of the english language allows for one to qualify that advanced gingivitis is putting people in the hospital now. Yeah, that's why free thinking people are still skeptical of the proven agenda driven claims surrounding this virus.
    Well there you go, as easy to foresee even The Atlantic comes out revealing it. Roughly 45% of covid numbers in hospital are not due to covid sending them there.

    https://www.theatlantic.com/health/a...eading/620062/

    Let's see if they'll go further into the exaggerated "covid death" numbers since we know those numbers are inflated too.
    https://www.skyhinews.com/news/grand...9-death-count/
    https://denver.cbslocal.com/2020/05/...g-covid-death/

    My next prediction, and hope, is someone is going to spill the beans on the hospital bed/ICU availability. It's already been stated here that hospitals are always running at high utilization rates* but if I interpreted the CDC reporting guidelines correctly (yes, I went to their site and read through them), the reporting must differentiate between physical number of beds (general vs ICU). With so many hospitals having furloughed and fired so many staff, a 20 physical bed ICU with only enough staff for 10 of those beds and having 9 ICU patients would be at a concerning 90% utilization rate.

    Then on top of those 9 ICU patients, roughly half might only be there actually due to covid complications and not simply isolated because their massive stroke comes with a non-symptomatic positive covid test.

    * Many rural hospitals are always one prom night car crash away from not having enough staffed beds.

    But the headline will be: 'Hospitals running out of beds because covid put them there!'. It's easy for those who want bad numbers and statistics to jack the numbers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ASCTLC View Post
    Well there you go, as easy to foresee even The Atlantic comes out revealing it. Roughly 45% of covid numbers in hospital are not due to covid sending them there.

    https://www.theatlantic.com/health/a...eading/620062/

    Let's see if they'll go further into the exaggerated "covid death" numbers since we know those numbers are inflated too.
    https://www.skyhinews.com/news/grand...9-death-count/
    https://denver.cbslocal.com/2020/05/...g-covid-death/

    My next prediction, and hope, is someone is going to spill the beans on the hospital bed/ICU availability. It's already been stated here that hospitals are always running at high utilization rates* but if I interpreted the CDC reporting guidelines correctly (yes, I went to their site and read through them), the reporting must differentiate between physical number of beds (general vs ICU). With so many hospitals having furloughed and fired so many staff, a 20 physical bed ICU with only enough staff for 10 of those beds and having 9 ICU patients would be at a concerning 90% utilization rate.

    Then on top of those 9 ICU patients, roughly half might only be there actually due to covid complications and not simply isolated because their massive stroke comes with a non-symptomatic positive covid test.

    * Many rural hospitals are always one prom night car crash away from not having enough staffed beds.

    But the headline will be: 'Hospitals running out of beds because covid put them there!'. It's easy for those who want bad numbers and statistics to jack the numbers.
    Don't let facts get in the way of the narrative.
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  11. #1611
    Did you read this by chance?
    Interesting isn't it?


    “People ask me, ‘Why am I getting vaccinated if I just end up in the hospital anyway?’” Griffin said. “But I say, ‘You’ll end up leaving the hospital.’”

    Also this:
    Seems like rural and large towns are still getting hit.... but you will just say "fake numbers" and that is really sad...

    Last Tuesday, the Idaho Department of Health and Welfare announced that it had implemented crisis standards of care in two North Idaho health districts as hospitals struggled to handle a surge of COVID-19 patients. Health care providers must now triage patients based on who is most likely to survive.

    https://www.seattletimes.com/nation-...-gets-delayed/


    Quote Originally Posted by ASCTLC View Post
    Well there you go, as easy to foresee even The Atlantic comes out revealing it. Roughly 45% of covid numbers in hospital are not due to covid sending them there.

    https://www.theatlantic.com/health/a...eading/620062/

    Let's see if they'll go further into the exaggerated "covid death" numbers since we know those numbers are inflated too.
    https://www.skyhinews.com/news/grand...9-death-count/
    https://denver.cbslocal.com/2020/05/...g-covid-death/

    My next prediction, and hope, is someone is going to spill the beans on the hospital bed/ICU availability. It's already been stated here that hospitals are always running at high utilization rates* but if I interpreted the CDC reporting guidelines correctly (yes, I went to their site and read through them), the reporting must differentiate between physical number of beds (general vs ICU). With so many hospitals having furloughed and fired so many staff, a 20 physical bed ICU with only enough staff for 10 of those beds and having 9 ICU patients would be at a concerning 90% utilization rate.

    Then on top of those 9 ICU patients, roughly half might only be there actually due to covid complications and not simply isolated because their massive stroke comes with a non-symptomatic positive covid test.

    * Many rural hospitals are always one prom night car crash away from not having enough staffed beds.

    But the headline will be: 'Hospitals running out of beds because covid put them there!'. It's easy for those who want bad numbers and statistics to jack the numbers.
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    Hmm... So even though vaccinated people still transmit the virus to others, its the unvaccinated peoples fault that this fully vaccinated person died.

    Wait, what? I thought you wouldn't die anyway if you were vaccinated.


    From Fox News - Vaccinated woman's family who died of COVID blames unvaccinated in obituary
    Vaccinated woman's family who died of COVID blames unvaccinated in obituary

    https://www.foxnews.com/us/vaccinate...nated-obituary

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    https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/202...ug-ivermectin/

    HUGE: Uttar Pradesh, India Announces State Is COVID-19 Free Proving the Effectiveness of “Deworming Drug” IVERMECTIN

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    Weird....

    https://www.statesman.com/story/news...ck/7415294002/


    Hydroxychloroquine and ivermectin are being widely used in India for COVID-19, according to news reports. But there is no evidence they led to the recent decline in confirmed cases, given the lack of clear scientific evidence that they are effective at all in prevention or treatment.



  15. #1615
    A reminder: I am vaxxed. Took Pfizer shot #2 on March 8th.

    I have no fear of those who are un-vaxxed and I associate with them daily at work. Getting vaccinated is a personal decision and one that I would gladly undo if given the chance.

    I have looked at the numbers coming out of Israel and see people dying after their third or fourth (booster) shot. After watching several video interviews with Dr. Robert Malone, my conclusion is that we are seeing the emergence of ADE (antibody dependence enhancement) and that the vaccines are making matters worse for those who are vaccinated and then exposed to Covid.

    I have seen some reports that suggest that ivermectin may, possibly, through mechanisms that we don't understand, be helpfiul in avoiding ADE. Time will tell. Many doctors are refusing to prescribe ivermectin and many parmacies are refusing to fill valid prescriptions (because the pharmacists know better than the doctors, I guess).

    The FDA and CDC have blocked all non-US purchases of ivermectin and are rumored to be interdicting shipments.

    That leaves the vet medicine. I am currently taking it without any noted side effects and will continue to do so as long as I can continue to purchase it.

    I have included no links because I am not advocating this course of action for anyone else. I'm merely telling you what I am doing. You make your own decision.

    Good luck.
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    Bill, I can't express how sorry I feel for you to have such a regret! To have the trust of those we should be able to believe has our best interest be dissolved after having made such a monumental health decision has to be heart wrenching.

    It's a decision Tammy and I face and question. We had a long deep conversation about this very thing this morning and weighing the actions of those intentionally panicking people and promoting the vaccines against the skepticism we know from our 60 years of experiences to just go with it (J&J if anything) are dissolving faster than a a snowflake in a blast furnace. We heard some interesting accounts today of just that kind of thing you mention and that is nearly sealing our decisions but as always we remain hopeful but skeptical the actual truth of all of this becomes clear.

    In the end, we hope and pray people like you stay safe with no actual danger to your health from the decision to get that mRNA tech vaccine ever comes to pass.

  17. #1617
    Thanks, Andy.

    I grew up in the medical field and married into it. I've got about 68 years of exposure to it. Nothing in the past year made much sense until I read about the liability shield in the PREP Act.

    Vaxxed or not, none of us are out of the woods yet.

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    A reminder on who Dr Malone is

    https://www.logically.ai/articles/wh...-robert-malone\

    https://www.theatlantic.com/science/...keptic/619734/

    I will include links.

    Thank you for being vaccinated. That is the right call.

    Quote Originally Posted by Willie G View Post
    A reminder: I am vaxxed. Took Pfizer shot #2 on March 8th.

    I have no fear of those who are un-vaxxed and I associate with them daily at work. Getting vaccinated is a personal decision and one that I would gladly undo if given the chance.

    I have looked at the numbers coming out of Israel and see people dying after their third or fourth (booster) shot. After watching several video interviews with Dr. Robert Malone, my conclusion is that we are seeing the emergence of ADE (antibody dependence enhancement) and that the vaccines are making matters worse for those who are vaccinated and then exposed to Covid.

    I have seen some reports that suggest that ivermectin may, possibly, through mechanisms that we don't understand, be helpfiul in avoiding ADE. Time will tell. Many doctors are refusing to prescribe ivermectin and many parmacies are refusing to fill valid prescriptions (because the pharmacists know better than the doctors, I guess).

    The FDA and CDC have blocked all non-US purchases of ivermectin and are rumored to be interdicting shipments.

    That leaves the vet medicine. I am currently taking it without any noted side effects and will continue to do so as long as I can continue to purchase it.

    I have included no links because I am not advocating this course of action for anyone else. I'm merely telling you what I am doing. You make your own decision.

    Good luck.
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    Why would one person thank another for being vaccinated? That makes no sense due to the fact that vaccinated people catch and spread the virus just as easily as unvaccinated.

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