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Thread: The Lunatic Fringe (Part 2)

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    Quote Originally Posted by creepycrawler View Post
    Gonna build me a batch of salmon patties. I havent had salmon patties in a long time and i like em. I just dont like building them because they smell up the house.
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    Shipping to Idaho Springs?
    Kuh-Nastie

    Me likey fish, not that fish though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by R0CKET View Post
    Who sells new street carbs locally. I’m gonna return this one and go buy one… everything is so damn delayed
    <whisper>fuel injection</whisper>

    Did anyone else hear that?

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    Wow, we actually went through a whole page of fringe in 2 days

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    Quote Originally Posted by creepycrawler View Post
    Speaking of shat breaking down, mah can opener just did. Now i have to go outside to go buy a new one. I wasnt planning on exiting the house today.
    3rd world problems in Oklahoma n stuff

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    Quote Originally Posted by creepycrawler View Post
    an injection kit?
    whisper that shit next time

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    3 hours until NFL playoff football .... might go work on motorcycles for a bit....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rex Ashton View Post
    whisper that shit next time
    Oops n stuff.
    From the only state in the USA where O'dumbass failed to carry a single county. :hail:

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    Quote Originally Posted by R0CKET View Post
    Who sells new street carbs locally. I’m gonna return this one and go buy one… everything is so damn delayed
    Try here: http://www.learyracingproducts.com/home

    On Navajo just north of Evans.
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    The Lunatic Fringe (Part 2)

    https://youtu.be/8ZnwkUFYB0A

    She’s alive.

    I ****in broke the electric choke cap while installing her.

    And gotta hook up all the vacuum lines… but she runs!

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    Quote Originally Posted by R0CKET View Post
    https://youtu.be/8ZnwkUFYB0A

    She’s alive.

    I ****in broke the electric choke cap while installing her.

    And gotta hook up all the vacuum lines… but she runs!
    Nice that you carry around the midget stool so you can see into the engine compartment.

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    Quote Originally Posted by creepycrawler View Post
    Nice that you carry around the midget stool so you can see into the engine compartment.



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    Sundee is here. Sunshine and 53 is expected but still cold this morning.

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    I guess Mom has got herself a dose of the covids but she is fine. I figure that the sooner everybody tries out some covids, the better off we will be what with building up some immunity. I dont believe its gonna go away so we might as well embrace it.

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    Mournin lewns

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    34 ===> 50

    Mid-70s would be better. Just sayin.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Willie G View Post
    34 ===> 50

    Mid-70s would be better. Just sayin.
    Yup.

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    I’m happy to absorb all 52 degrees today, and then 60 of them tomorrow

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rex Ashton View Post
    I’m happy to absorb all 52 degrees today, and then 60 of them tomorrow
    It's hard to complain about this winter so far... Been very mild except for the mountains where it belongs.

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    I guess I need to rejet this carb, eh?

    Calibration was done at sea level, and I’m in Denver..

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    Quote Originally Posted by R0CKET View Post
    I guess I need to rejet this carb, eh?

    Calibration was done at sea level, and I’m in Denver..
    Probably, but I'd drive it first and see how it does.

    There are guides on the web to suggest how far you might have to go - but they are only a starting point.

    ETA: If you really want to nail it, get some flavor of O2 sensor to check it while running at your house.
    Last edited by Willie G; January 16th, 2022 at 11:52 AM. Reason: Moar info

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    I bet even CC could catch these fish.


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    I got a few more things to fix up before we drive.. probably needs plugs. As she sits I can’t even get her to idle long enough to get up to operating temp. And I don’t want to try driving her till I know she’ll at least run well enough to get me back home.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Oscar View Post
    I bet even CC could catch these fish.

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    Just checked the plugs… real juicy.

    Too rich

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    Quote Originally Posted by R0CKET View Post
    Just checked the plugs… real juicy.

    Too rich
    sounds like lyrics to a rap song

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    ‘86 F-250 with 460 big block. Just put a new Holley 770cfm Street avenger carb on her. (I returned the edelbrock when fedex was super delayed getting me the parts needed).

    I’m at 7k feet elevation.

    She fires quick and easy, but she won’t idle well at all. She idles super low, 4-500rpm. She’ll idle for a few minutes then finally die.
    If I try to give any gas she stumbles and dies.

    If I’m really careful I can get her to rev up a bit (2000-2500rpm), and then she sounds like she’s running great…
    But then she’ll stumble and die again.

    I’m guessing the jets are way too big for my elevation.. but I also think the timing is way off.
    I haven’t had a chance to check timing yet.

    Plugs were really wet (but also thick soot like there was dirt in the cylinder). Just put new plugs in ran it for a few minutes, but ran out of time to pull them and check for fouling.

    Thoughts?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rex Ashton View Post
    sounds like lyrics to a rap song


    “Cause I’m a island boy, just tryinna make it”

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    Quote Originally Posted by R0CKET View Post
    ‘86 F-250 with 460 big block. Just put a new Holley 770cfm Street avenger carb on her. (I returned the edelbrock when fedex was super delayed getting me the parts needed).

    I’m at 7k feet elevation.

    She fires quick and easy, but she won’t idle well at all. She idles super low, 4-500rpm. She’ll idle for a few minutes then finally die.
    If I try to give any gas she stumbles and dies.

    If I’m really careful I can get her to rev up a bit (2000-2500rpm), and then she sounds like she’s running great…
    But then she’ll stumble and die again.

    I’m guessing the jets are way too big for my elevation.. but I also think the timing is way off.
    I haven’t had a chance to check timing yet.

    Plugs were really wet (but also thick soot like there was dirt in the cylinder). Just put new plugs in ran it for a few minutes, but ran out of time to pull them and check for fouling.

    Thoughts?
    What is the reason for the carb swap to begin with? Was it running like it is now? I just ask because i dont want you to waste time chasing problems trying to tune this carb if the engine has other problems that are making it run poorly.

    Having said that, timing is the very first thing you should verify because if you change timing later, you will have to go back and readjust the air/fuel mixture.

    After the timing is set correctly, set the float levels in both bowls. Most people adjust the floats to where the gas is right at the bottom of the check plug holes but i would set them lower, like where you have to rock the truck side to side pretty good to get the gas to slosh out.

    Next, set the idle which you will have to play with some as you adust the air/fuel mixture screws. Its best to use a vacuum gauge to set the air/fuel needles but i almost always just did it by sound. You basically back one of them out till its not changing the idle any more, (idle sbould innitially increase when you back the screw out) then slowly strart turning it back in till it just starts to decrease idle rpm. Go back and forth from side to side till both are right there where if you start to turn them in that it immediately slows idle rpm.

    That is about all you can do till you start playing with jets but hooefully by this time, it will be running at least good enough to do a good plug check. When doing a plug check, you want the engine good and hot and you really want it to be running at a decent load for a little bit. Try not to idle it much between then and pulling the plugs. You will of course need to readjust the air/fuel screws after each jet change as well.

    Good luck.

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    Quote Originally Posted by creepycrawler View Post
    What is the reason for the carb swap to begin with? Was it running like it is now? I just ask because i dont want you to waste time chasing problems trying to tune this carb if the engine has other problems that are making it run poorly.

    Having said that, timing is the very first thing you should verify because if you change timing later, you will have to go back and readjust the air/fuel mixture.

    After the timing is set correctly, set the float levels in both bowls. Most people adjust the floats to where the gas is right at the bottom of the check plug holes but i would set them lower, like where you have to rock the truck side to side pretty good to get the gas to slosh out.

    Next, set the idle which you will have to play with some as you adust the air/fuel mixture screws. Its best to use a vacuum gauge to set the air/fuel needles but i almost always just did it by sound. You basically back one of them out till its not changing the idle any more, (idle sbould innitially increase when you back the screw out) then slowly strart turning it back in till it just starts to decrease idle rpm. Go back and forth from side to side till both are right there where if you start to turn them in that it immediately slows idle rpm.

    That is about all you can do till you start playing with jets but hooefully by this time, it will be running at least good enough to do a good plug check. When doing a plug check, you want the engine good and hot and you really want it to be running at a decent load for a little bit. Try not to idle it much between then and pulling the plugs. You will of course need to readjust the air/fuel screws after each jet change as well.

    Good luck.
    It was running great, the carb seals failed and she was pouring gas from the accelerator pump and float bowls.

    Decided to buy a bigger performance carb instead of just rebuilding OEM.

    Will check timing asap tomorrow - this is likely the issue (I remember someone ****ing around with timing a few years ago when I was using it as a plow at 10k ft).

    Will do all the things you listed, in that order.

    Thanks man!

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    I tentatively sold a motorcycle today with possible delivery tomorrow. I might buy a bike tomorrow or Tuesday, so the inventory number does not get any better.

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    Ha! I just saw that the kabois lost. This will not please a couple people at work but it does please me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by creepycrawler View Post
    Ha! I just saw that the kabois lost. This will not please a couple people at work but it does please me.
    SanFran sent them home with a soap on a rope

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    Haha. I will have to use that one after i innocently ask Robert how the game went.

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    Quote Originally Posted by creepycrawler View Post
    Haha. I will have to use that one after i innocently ask Robert how the game went.
    Lulz

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rex Ashton View Post
    I tentatively sold a motorcycle today with possible delivery tomorrow. I might buy a bike tomorrow or Tuesday, so the inventory number does not get any better.
    I support this line of thinking

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    Quote Originally Posted by R0CKET View Post
    I support this line of thinking
    lulz...

    Got a Honda CR250, Suzuki RMX250, Yamaha WR450F, Kawasaki KLX170... Basically my dream as a kid when I bought DirtBike magazine with all 4 Japanese bikes represented...

    Add the Ducati 848 Evo, Triumph Tiger 1050, Bultaco 350, and 3 more scooters.... Admitting you have a problem is the 1st step to recovery

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rex Ashton View Post
    lulz...

    Got a Honda CR250, Suzuki RMX250, Yamaha WR450F, Kawasaki KLX170... Basically my dream as a kid when I bought DirtBike magazine with all 4 Japanese bikes represented...

    Add the Ducati 848 Evo, Triumph Tiger 1050, Bultaco 350, and 3 more scooters.... Admitting you have a problem is the 1st step to recovery
    I don’t see the problem.

    Nothing to “recover” from here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rex Ashton View Post
    Admitting you have a problem is the 1st step to recovery
    Seems like i read that somewhere else today.

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