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    Tomorrow: Report Card Day For CO Judges

    Judicial Evaluations Come Out Tomorrow Sans Rankings

    Posted on 02 August 2010

    LAW WEEK COLORADO

    DENVER — Colorado’s judges get their report cards on Tuesday. The Colorado
    Office of Judicial Performance Evaluation will publish on its website judicial
    retention recommendations and performance reports for all state judges and
    justices seeking another term in office.

    This year there will be no ranked list of all judges running statewide, which
    was a new feature in the 2008 retention cycle. The ranking was unpopular
    with state judges who responded to an unscientific Law Week Colorado
    survey two years ago, with 91 percent of respondents opposed to it.

    “I don’t know if [the ranking] was all that helpful two years ago,” said Jane
    Howell, director of the Colorado Office of Judicial Performance Evaluation,
    explaining its absence this year.

    New this year, the evaluation office will release interim reports from 2009,
    which will help voters track judges’ progress over time.

    About 94 percent of eligible judges and justices will stand for retention this
    year. This is an increase over the last two retention elections. In 2008, about
    84 percent of those eligible stood for retention, and in 2006 just 82 percent
    did.
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    what are the categories and who judges (ha ha, get it?) them?
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    Quote Originally Posted by DaJudge View Post
    This year there will be no ranked list of all judges running statewide, which was a new feature in the 2008 retention cycle. The ranking was unpopular with state judges who responded to an unscientific Law Week Colorado survey two years ago, with 91 percent of respondents opposed to it.
    A "report card" on gov employees without rankings because the people being graded don't want rankings released to the public? Yeah, that makes perfect sense. Or not.

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    Wahh. I don't want to be judged and ranked against others because my career may depend on it. Welcome to how the rest of us retain our jobs!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Steve View Post
    A "report card" on gov employees without rankings because the people being graded don't want rankings released to the public? Yeah, that makes perfect sense. Or not.


    Quote Originally Posted by Yucca-Man View Post
    Wahh. I don't want to be judged and ranked against others because my career may depend on it. Welcome to how the rest of us retain our jobs!
    Nope. The ranking were a gimmick as the judges don't run against each other. Each judge, individually, asks the voters to retain him/her in office based on his/her record and the scores of the citizens who bothered to submit evaluations.

    You're ranked #1 and I am ranked #50. If 49.9% of the voters who vote on you say yes and 50.1 % of the voters who vote on me say yes...you're history and I have a new term.

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    Just out of curiosity, how would you rank one judge as better or worse than another one? It seems that they preside over different courts, with different cases, and so on....

    any input from DaJudge on how that worked last time?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hayes View Post
    what are the categories and who judges (ha ha, get it?) them?
    These questionnaires have the categories:

    http://www.coloradojudicialperforman...tionnaires.cfm

    Who judges the judges:

    Q:
    How are judges evaluated?
    Commissions prepare a narrative that includes the recommendation to voters on the retention of the judge. To evaluate the overall performance of a judge, commissions are required to use the following information:

    • Results from surveys sent to persons who have sufficient experience with a judge: attorneys (including prosecutors, public defenders, and private attorneys), jurors, litigants, law enforcement personnel, employees of the court, court interpreters, employees of probation offices, employees of local departments of social services, victims of crime, and other judges and justices.
    • Information from observing the judge in the courtroom
    • Information furnished by the judge in a self-evaluation
    • Review of decisions/opinions
    • Review of individual judge statistics
    • Interview with the judge
    • In addition, commissions may use the following information:
      • Information and documentation from interested persons
      • Information from interviews with justices and judges and other persons
      • Information from public hearings




    Q:
    Who gets to fill out a survey questionnaire?
    When people appear in court, their names are entered into the court’s computerized database. The state commission has contracted with an independent research company to randomly select names and addresses from this database. Those people will receive surveys with questions about judges whom they have observed. In some areas where a judge hears few cases, all those who have observed the judge may be surveyed.



    More FAQs:

    http://www.coloradojudicialperformance.gov/faqs.cfm

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    Quote Originally Posted by CYAN5DE View Post
    Just out of curiosity, how would you rank one judge as better or worse than another one? It seems that they preside over different courts, with different cases, and so on....

    any input from DaJudge on how that worked last time?
    That's a good question, and I only had contact with one judge last year...and that was one contact too many. Worthless waste of time and far too much money. Harrumph.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CYAN5DE View Post
    Just out of curiosity, how would you rank one judge as better or worse than another one? It seems that they preside over different courts, with different cases, and so on....

    any input from DaJudge on how that worked last time?
    The links from the rankings are gone:

    2008 Report Pursuant to S 13-5.5-103(1)(q), C.R.S. (2008)
    2008 Ranking of Trial Judges Standing For Retention

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    So how did you do DaJudge?
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    Quote Originally Posted by DaJudge View Post
    Nope. The ranking were a gimmick as the judges don't run against each other. Each judge, individually, asks the voters to retain him/her in office based on his/her record and the scores of the citizens who bothered to submit evaluations.

    You're ranked #1 and I am ranked #50. If 49.9% of the voters who vote on you say yes and 50.1 % of the voters who vote on me say yes...you're history and I have a new term.
    That may be true... but I would sure like to know if my judge is ranked last in the entire state. Just because you aren't directly running against another judge doesn't mean the rankings aren't useful to us!

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    Quote Originally Posted by DaJudge View Post
    Nope. The ranking were a gimmick as the judges don't run against each other. Each judge, individually, asks the voters to retain him/her in office based on his/her record and the scores of the citizens who bothered to submit evaluations.
    I want to grade on a curve to improve the judge stock - lowest 50% are gone. After all, their performance is below average. If everyone did that it'd make the Judges fight to be in the top 50%. How am I gonna know how to vote unless I can look at the rankings?
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    Quote Originally Posted by JeepWheelin02 View Post
    So how did you do DaJudge?
    This only applies to State Court judges.

    I work for the City of Aurora. We have a separate, but similar, system and we get graded every year. My overall ratings run between 3.4 and 3.6 on a 4 point scale. My retention recommendation fluctuates between 75-85 % "Retain." I'll get my 2010 report card next month and in December the City Council will decide if I an unemployed in January or have my job for 4 more years.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DaJudge View Post
    This only applies to State Court judges.

    I work for the City of Aurora. We have a separate, but similar, system and we get graded every year. My overall ratings run between 3.4 and 3.6 on a 4 point scale. My retention recommendation fluctuates between 75-85 % "Retain." I'll get my 2010 report card next month and in December the City Council will decide if I an unemployed in January or have my job for 4 more years.

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    The current system where very few voters get enough information to make an informed choice is flawed.

    How long has it been since a Judge actually lost his job from the retention vote?
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    Quote Originally Posted by RWPOTTER View Post
    The current system where very few voters get enough information to make an informed choice is flawed.

    How long has it been since a Judge actually lost his job from the retention vote?
    2008. One judge was voted out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RWPOTTER View Post
    The current system where very few voters get enough information to make an informed choice is flawed.
    Have you actually looked at the reports and the ton of info in each? What else is needed?

    To the extent few voters get the info it is their own fault for not looking at the available info IMHO. You can lead a voter to info, but...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dave McDonald View Post
    2008. One judge was voted out.
    " Since judicial retention evaluations began in 1988, there have been 953 judges on the ballot. Fifteen got recommendations against retention and 10 got “no opinion.” Another seven were voted out. In the last retention election in 2008, 102 out of 103 judges were retained by voter approval. The performance commission recommended that one judge not be retained; that judge, Judy Archuleta of Jefferson County, was voted out."

    From a long, but good article on the process:

    http://www.coloradostatesman.com/con...-scrutiny-year

    Also, note that many judges do not stand for retention when they know the numbers will be bad. The current system may be flawed but it is FAR SUPERIOR to electing judges. I've seen that in action in 3 States: OH, TX, and NM and it SUX.

    Here is an interesting study of our system compared to those in AZ, UT, and AK:

    http://www.judicialselection.us/uplo...7B5A81A9B3.pdf

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dave McDonald View Post
    I want to grade on a curve to improve the judge stock - lowest 50% are gone. After all, their performance is below average.
    You attended the Jesse Ventura School of Higher Mathematics and Statistics, huh?


    (When Jesse was governor he said in a speech that he was shocked, SHOCKED, when he found out that exactly 50% of the students in the state were below average. Um, yeah, that's kinda how it works. )

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    Quote Originally Posted by DaJudge View Post
    Have you actually looked at the reports and the ton of info in each? What else is needed?

    To the extent few voters get the info it is their own fault for not looking at the available info IMHO. You can lead a voter to info, but...
    True. Those judicial performance surveys are pretty comprehensive. I love fillling those out.

    Moreover, the fact that few judges get booted by the voters can be interpreted as validation of the appointment process we have in place. We have a pretty good judiciary here.
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    Law Week Colorado figured out the 'rankings' for you:

    Colo. Releases ‘Scores’ Of 134 Judges Running For Retention

    Posted on 03 August 2010

    LAW WEEK COLORADO

    Larimer County District Judge Gregory Lammons received the state’s top
    overall score from attorneys and non-attorneys who appeared in his
    courtroom, data from the Colorado Office of Judicial Performance Evaluation
    analyzed by Law Week Colorado reveals.

    Lammons received an overall score of 3.88 on a 4.0 scale. Other high scorers
    were Jefferson County Judge Susan Fisch, 3.77; Denver District Judge
    Norman Haglund, 3.75; and Jefferson County Court Judge Thomas E. Vance,
    3.71.

    One judge, Pueblo’s Jill Mattoon, received a “do not retain” recommendation.
    But with a 3.17 score, she wasn’t nearly the lowest scorer.

    That distinction belonged to a so-called lay judge — a non-attorney —
    Suzanne Grant of Crowley County. She received a 2.42 score.

    Denver County Court Judge Mary Celeste received no opinion. Her score was
    3.11.

    The bottom scores besides Grant were Kit Carson County Judge Michael
    Grinnan, 2.8; Conejos County Judge Mary Garcia, 2.84; and Custer County
    Judge Peter Michaelson, 3.01.

    The chart below ranks all 134 judges eligible for retention.

    http://spreadsheets.google.com/pub?k...me=false&gid=0

    *****************************************************
    More:

    Only 9 of 143 not running for retention

    Pueblo Judge Mattoon Receives ‘Do Not Retain’ Recommendation

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    Was in court quite a bit today in Arapahoe county fighting a long convoluted title issue for a property we've been holding in Piney Creek Village.

    Kinda weird seeing myself in a suit again

    Props to Judge Cross for taking the case (Judge Pratt too busy) with zero notice and taking what he saw as 30 mins on the docket into a 4 hour hearing to give a fair ruling.

    I'm praising him and not cursing him since he decided in our favor .... after months of pre-trial crap.

    He yielded the right (and only sensible) decision. Today, I'm giving him a stellar Judicial Performance Evaluation

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    Quote Originally Posted by RWPOTTER View Post
    The current system where very few voters get enough information to make an informed choice is flawed.
    Do you think this will help fix that?

    CBA, Other Groups Roll Out ‘Know Your Judge’ Campaign

    Posted on 04 August 2010

    LAW WEEK COLORADO

    The Colorado Bar Association and several other nonprofits on Wednesday
    rolled out a public-service advertising campaign encouraging voters to
    “know their judges” before voting on their retentions in the fall election.

    The campaign, which consists of a website and a public-service
    announcement intended for broadcast TV stations, doesn’t offer
    previously unavailable information about the judges. But it highlights
    performance evaluations released Tuesday and encourages voters to read
    those as well as the voter “blue book” distributed by the state.

    The other sponsors are the University of Denver’s Institute for the
    Advancement of Legal Studies, the Colorado Judicial Institute and the
    League of Women Voters of Colorado.

    The PSA features outdoor scenes of voters saying, among other things, “I
    vote for them,” “I don’t know who these people are,” “I skip them,” “I
    guess” and “I think who are these people?”

    A narrator intones, “Be informed, get the facts at knowyourjudge.com.”

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    Quote Originally Posted by DaJudge View Post
    This only applies to State Court judges.

    I work for the City of Aurora. We have a separate, but similar, system and we get graded every year. My overall ratings run between 3.4 and 3.6 on a 4 point scale. My retention recommendation fluctuates between 75-85 % "Retain." I'll get my 2010 report card next month and in December the City Council will decide if I an unemployed in January or have my job for 4 more years.
    Lammons got a 3.8...WTF Judge? I mean a 3.6 isn't bad but...

    Kidding, nice work Sir.
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