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scottycards
June 22nd, 2007, 04:52 PM
So cool! :thumbsup:

Lighter, Turbocharged Ferraris in the Pipeline
Written by: Autocar staff
Maranello, Italy ? 6/21/2007
The FXX Millechili previews what a one-ton Enzo (or 800lb less than the production car) would look and perform like. (Ferrari photo)

On the eve of its 60th anniversary celebrations, Ferrari has given us a glimpse of its future at a special technology conference held at Fiorano.

We're not about to get electric Ferraris, but regenerative braking, advanced turbocharged engines, massive weight reductions and biofuels are all on the cards for the famous Italian brand.

"The world is changing, and Ferrari is changing too," said a spokesman. The aim is to lose no performance, but to make lighter, more efficient cars.

Ferrari displayed its planned technological advances in a special one-ton Enzo-based car called the FXX Millechili (literally, a thousand kilos). It's 800lb lighter than the production car. Ferrari says its plan is to reduce the weight of every car it makes by around 700lb over their predecessors.

Ferrari reckons that had the Enzo weighed one ton its 650hp would have been as effective as 800hp.

Lighter cars will require less power, and also therefore smaller brakes and lighter suspension components. Handling is also likely to be improved.
Future Ferraris will be built on monocoque chassis and use energy from regenerative braking. (Ferrari photo)

The 599 GTB, says Ferrari, is the last car it will build using "late 1990s technology" in the shape of a chassis that's a mix of extruded and bonded aluminum. Future cars will have a monocoque chassis, in what was dubbed "a major rethink" of the way Ferraris are built.

Engines will be downsized, with smaller capacities, direct injection and turbochargers all playing a part. Future Ferraris will also have the ability to run on E80 bioethanol fuel. The plan is to reduce average CO2 emissions across the range from 400g/km to 250.

Transmissions will be smaller and lighter, not least because they will not need to cope with quite as much power.

Ferrari also wants to harness regenerative braking power; but unlike in current cars this won't be used to charge the batteries or work in place of the alternator. Instead, it would power a small motor attached to the transmission, with the aim of keeping it spinning, enabling smoother gearchanges.

Aerodynamics will also move on. Ferrari is currently working with Imperial College London on an advanced active aerodynamics system that involves using air pumps to push air over and under the car. This smoothes airflow and cuts drag.

All of these changes are expected to happen over the next decade, so expect the Ferrari of 2017 to be a very different beast to today's machines.

Finally, Ferrari hinted that a replacement for what it dubbed "the collector's car", the Enzo, would be brought to market in 2010. Expect it to be lighter, faster and even more dramatic.

After 60 years, it seems that Ferrari is following the advice of Lotus founder Colin Chapman, and adding lightness wherever it can.

Jake_Blues
June 22nd, 2007, 05:49 PM
This is cool. I'd love to see a turbo-diesel sports car. Or a diesel+electric car. One thing I've often wondered is why you couldn't use several smaller electric motors and power each wheel independently, for instance. Completely eschew the normal 100 year old power train system, and go to something like trains use, with a diesel generator supplying power to electric motors. A CVT on the diesel engine could keep it running in its happy place while the electric motors do all the crazy RPM changing. Batteries would be just big enough to give you a sprint capacity above what the generator could provide, and allow regenerative breaking.

Electric motors have the ability to generate stupid amounts of torque for short periods if you can dump the power into them and keep them cool. I'm thinking a small, light car like the Lotus Elise, with the ability to make short spurts into the supercar performance arena but still getting 50+ mpg.

Ah well, I can dream :D

-E

Jake_Blues
June 22nd, 2007, 05:52 PM
The other option would be to get people to start selling 100 octane gas and we could all run 1 liter turbo motors making 300+hp. Fuel efficient, and fun!

-E

Steve
June 22nd, 2007, 06:24 PM
Electric motors have the ability to generate stupid amounts of torque for short periods if you can dump the power into them and keep them cool. I'm thinking a small, light car like the Lotus Elise, with the ability to make short spurts into the supercar performance arena but still getting 50+ mpg.

Ah well, I can dream :D

-E

Not just stupid amounts of torque, but their torque curve is a flat horizontal line. And electric motor supplies the same amount of torque at 10 rpm as it does at 100 and 1000. Dunno why someone hasn't done it. :shrug:

scottycards
June 23rd, 2007, 08:04 AM
The coolest part is that the regenerative braking is not being used to power elec motors, but rather to spin up the transmission.

More benefits from the development of hybrid technology- this "taking power from the braking action" has already started to open new doors for other applications of the technology.

Development is good. Breaking new ground is good. Me likes it, even though me doesn't really like Ferrari............er, more correctly- the guys who drive Ferraris. Something about long black curly mullets, with gold chains and a Rolex on their wrist as big as a submarine hatchcover that spells "look how important I am"..........

Cresso
June 23rd, 2007, 10:31 PM
Dunno why someone hasn't done it. :shrug:

It's been done. Tesla Roadster (http://www.teslamotors.com/index.php) Looks great, imo. Also, electric cars have been running for a few years at Pike's Peak hill climb. Dunno how well they're doing compared to the rest of the field, but the theory makes sense. No power loss due to altitude.

Jake_Blues
June 24th, 2007, 12:51 AM
It's been done. Tesla Roadster (http://www.teslamotors.com/index.php) Looks great, imo. Also, electric cars have been running for a few years at Pike's Peak hill climb. Dunno how well they're doing compared to the rest of the field, but the theory makes sense. No power loss due to altitude.

Only thing I don't like about this is it's not a hybrid. I'd prefer something that could run on gas/diesel if I wanted to drive it cross country. Something with a small powerplant that could provide enough power to keep the car running 80mph without draining the battery.

I have to wonder about that Tesla Roadster's 200 mile range claim though. I bet it's more like 50 miles if you actually use the full performance of the car for any length of time (0-60 in 4+ seconds, etc).

-E