Digital Photos/ Photoshop Retouching

[ColoradoSkier]

[Let's try this again, and hope people don't get it killed. I deleted the first one because I was 99% sure it was going to happen.]

I have been using Photoshop for over 10 years now. Well, not really using it, so much as getting by with some basic tasks. For what I have done, Photoshop has mostly been overkill. Today I started learning some nifty photo retouching techniques. I picked up a copy of "The Photoshop Show" by Russell Brown, and have to say I am really impressed. He makes it easy, and the enclosed examples are really useful. You can find good, used copies pretty cheap.

I think my next purchase might be "The Photoshop CS2 Book for Digital Photographers".

Now to start putting some of this knowledge to use.

[lilgreenjeepyj]

Repost... ;)

Im stuck using The GIMP as I don't have $$ for Pshop. :(

All of the good macros, tips and plugins are for Pshop.

[ColoradoSkier]

Repost... ;)

Im stuck using The GIMP as I don't have $$ for Pshop. :(

All of the good macros, tips and plugins are for Pshop.

I have been lucky enough to be in jobs that use it. Their licensing allows for one copy to go home, as long as you aren't using them both at the same time.

[Hardcor4x4]

I had to break out my masterfull MS paint photochopping skills today for the uber tall ford truck thread. I even impressed myself.
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y65/bhugo4x4/tow-rig.jpg

[MReetz]

I've done some pretty cool photomerges with it. Makes really nice pix into really loonggggg pix.

[ColoradoSkier]

It is more than a little frightening to be next to that thing on 6th Avenue in my Jetta. Luckily during rush hour he can't move very fast. I worry it is just going to collapse on itself or something. It looks quite precarious...

[thenimirra]

[Let's try this again, and hope people don't get it killed. I deleted the first one because I was 99% sure it was going to happen.]

I have been using Photoshop for over 10 years now. Well, not really using it, so much as getting by with some basic tasks. For what I have done, Photoshop has mostly been overkill. Today I started learning some nifty photo retouching techniques. I picked up a copy of "The Photoshop Show" by Russell Brown, and have to say I am really impressed. He makes it easy, and the enclosed examples are really useful. You can find good, used copies pretty cheap.

I think my next purchase might be "The Photoshop CS2 Book for Digital Photographers".

Now to start putting some of this knowledge to use.


When I finish my photography classes at the Denver Dark Room starting next month, I will finally be able to keep up with the board shutterbugs like Skier and MReetz.

:hail:

[Jocko]

I had to break out my masterfull MS paint photochopping skills today for the uber tall ford truck thread. I even impressed myself.

You're killing me LOL!

[ColoradoSkier]

I've done some pretty cool photomerges with it. Makes really nice pix into really loonggggg pix.

There is a technique outlined in the book for doing this and showing you how to match the colors of the sky and get rid of any artifacts from where the images line up.

Nice pic BTW - we have had some great sunrises over the past week, just haven't had a chance to get pics of any of them...

[lilgreenjeepyj]

... Denver Dark Room s...

:hail:


What is this you speak of????

[MReetz]

another pic

I've since figured out how to make the sky blend in better than this.....this was my first try.

[ColoradoSkier]

another pic

I've since figured out how to make the sky blend in better than this.....this was my first try.

Not a bad job doing it manually. Up til now I have always just used the software that came with the camera. I'll probably try it on my own now, at least for anything that might be "striking".

[MReetz]

Not a bad job doing it manually. Up til now I have always just used the software that came with the camera. I'll probably try it on my own now, at least for anything that might be "striking".

Set the f-stop and shutterspeed manually, then you won't get the variances if the camera is doin it for you automatically.

[Jocko]

Set the f-stop and shutterspeed manually, then you won't get the variances if the camera is doin it for you automatically.

You should also set your white balance maually too.

[Jocko]

Here's a 4x4 related photoshopped pic.

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y144/cj3185002/Eiic--Patriot.jpg?t=1174604774

[ColoradoSkier]

See, the other book I need to read is, well the title escapes me, but some kind of intro guide to photography. The few good pics I have gotten so far have been blind luck...

[MReetz]

Good point!
Here's an overlay using photoshop too......

[ColoradoSkier]

Good point!
Here's an overlay using photoshop too......

Trippy man...

[thenimirra]

stop using such big words....you guys are killing me!

[thenimirra]

speed, variance, shutter...I just can't take being uneducated!

[jnschwie]

[Let's try this again, and hope people don't get it killed. I deleted the first one because I was 99% sure it was going to happen.]
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What happen? :confused:


Anyway, thanks for the heads up. :) (again)

[MReetz]

Here's a 4x4 related photoshopped pic.

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y144/cj3185002/Eiic--Patriot.jpg?t=1174604774

THATs cool!

[MReetz]

speed, variance, shutter...I just can't take being uneducated!

I'm sure you've use speed and variance lately.......

[Jocko]

Just the few people in this thread warrant a new section :D

[MReetz]

I think so!!

[thenimirra]

I'm sure you've use speed and variance lately.......



:eek:










oh, sorry. Wrong thread. :flipoff2:

[ColoradoSkier]

Just the few people in this thread warrant a new section :D

If you haven't already voted, you can at http://www.colorado4x4.org/vbb/showthread.php?t=90263

[Jocko]

Here's some amazing photoshop work...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iYhCn0jf46U

[thenimirra]

What is this you speak of????


a school that teaches all types of photography classes. My first one is April 1, "Getting to Know Your Digital Camera." It has so many controls and settings on it...I'm a little overwhelmed...

But I catch on quick...

[thenimirra]

Here's some amazing photoshop work...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iYhCn0jf46U


nice. I loved that!

[MReetz]

Yea, thats amazing isn't it. Don't know what's real anymore these days.

Gotta go put the top up!!! Its rainin here!! Later

[thenimirra]

Have a good night Marty....send me some cool shots!

[ColoradoSkier]

Another book that looks interesting is "Photoshop Masking & Compositing".

[thenimirra]

Give me a list of all the books you might suggest I get a hold of Skier....

[Jocko]

Here are a few links I have in my favorite files...

http://www.planetphotoshop.com/

http://photoshopsupport.com/

http://www.radiantvista.com/workbench/

http://www.worth1000.com/

[rubbersidedown]

Some good info here on this site! (http://www.profotos.com) I would love to get more into photography! I am frustrated with the camera that I bought, and lack of knowledge about it, keeps me from pursuing it more! :(

[Snotty]

RTFM! Geez people... The web is great resource as well. :google:




:flipoff2:

[rubbersidedown]

RTFM! Geez people... The web is great resource as well. :google:




:flipoff2:

Go back to feeling ill would ya!! :flipoff2:

[Ghettojeep]

my pops site. he's a guru. :thumbsup:


www.photoanarchy.com

[lilgreenjeepyj]

a school that teaches all types of photography classes. My first one is April 1, "Getting to Know Your Digital Camera." It has so many controls and settings on it...I'm a little overwhelmed...

But I catch on quick...


Thanks, degree based or take them as you go??? I have never heard of the school, but the idea of a few classes sounds cool.

[ColoradoSkier]

Got some pics of the sunrise this morning. Will work the images a little then post the before and after's.

[thenimirra]

Just found out yesterday that one of my classes may be canceled because they don't have enough people to fill it. But Digital 1 is comprehensive enough.

http://www.denverdarkroom.com/

Googling and reading photography books and shooting a brazialian shots is probably better and cheaper....but I'm taking the class because I learn better that way and I think it's a good chance to meet new people!

Digital 1 starts April 9 and meets from 6 to 9!

[thenimirra]

today was a great day for cloud shots too!

[ColoradoSkier]

Never mind - the pics suck. Took too long to get back home, get the camera, get on the roof and snap them. I need to take them from a better vantage point, like Addenbrooke, or somewhere near Kipling and Florida...

[thenimirra]

on the roof? man you are dedicated...

[ColoradoSkier]

Too many trees in my yard to block the view. Even at that, I still had a lot of obstruction.

http://static.flickr.com/180/431410271_92aac3f60d_m.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/bullockfam/431410271/)

[Jocko]

f^8 and be there.

[ColoradoSkier]

They are probably oversaturated because I was fiddling with exposure times too. Too much all at once. Argghhh...

[MReetz]

What kind of camera, coloradoskier, do you have?

[ColoradoSkier]

Canon Powershot G5

http://images.digitalkamera.de/Info/MN-CanonPowerShotG5-Front-rechts-M.jpg

[JeepDiva]

Just found out yesterday that one of my classes may be canceled because they don't have enough people to fill it. But Digital 1 is comprehensive enough.

http://www.denverdarkroom.com/



A few years ago, I took a couple classes through Colorado Camera. It was before I had my digital, so the classes I took were on using a 35mm SLR. I really enjoyed them and learned a lot. I guess their classes are affiliated with Red Rocks now, but I would definitely recommend these guys.
http://www.coloradocamera.com/Cpa.htm

[thenimirra]

so I don't get tricked into buying something I don't need...what would be the appropriate accessories to have with these two cameras:

Canon Rebel XTI
Nikon Coolpix L3

I just purchased a universal memory card reader/writer that I can also use for my Motorola Q (which has a miniSD).

What else do I need to get started....

Next year I will by a new computer to compliment my photography and I'll need to buy a better printer as well. For now, I'm just buying appropriate accessories for the cameras and I'll work my way up later.

Thanks all for putting up with this here shutterbug noob!

[thenimirra]

A few years ago, I took a couple classes through Colorado Camera. It was before I had my digital, so the classes I took were on using a 35mm SLR. I really enjoyed them and learned a lot. I guess their classes are affiliated with Red Rocks now, but I would definitely recommend these guys.
http://www.coloradocamera.com/Cpa.htm



thanks for your suggestion....BTW your avatar is so cute! It made me smile. Thanks

[ColoradoSkier]

so I don't get tricked into buying something I don't need...what would be the appropriate accessories [snip]


Tripod. I use an inexpensive one I got at Wally World or Target or something. Works well though. I also have a small, mini tripod with a long velcro strap I can use to mount it to different things (trees, poles, etc).
Camera bag that fits each camera and whatever accessories you have for it.
Extra rechargeable batteries, and a AC/DC charger if possible.
For the EOS, get a UV filter to put on the end of the lens.
Possibly a polarization filter if you are going to be outdoors a lot.
Good flash for the EOS (Canon Speedlite series).


If you expect to do a lot of flash photography, or flash tricks, review the info at http://www.strobist.blogspot.com/ before buying the flash. Get the right one to start with.

And believe me, having a flash you can use to bounce light at different angles is WAY better than using the onboard one.

[rondog]

I used to be real serious about photography, before I got married.:mad: Someday I'll have one of these.....

http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b150/rinselman/misc%20stuff/NikonD2X.jpg

[AMMOtj]

so I don't get tricked into buying something I don't need...what would be the appropriate accessories to have with these two cameras:

Canon Rebel XTI
Nikon Coolpix L3

I just purchased a universal memory card reader/writer that I can also use for my Motorola Q (which has a miniSD).

What else do I need to get started....

Next year I will by a new computer to compliment my photography and I'll need to buy a better printer as well. For now, I'm just buying appropriate accessories for the cameras and I'll work my way up later.

Thanks all for putting up with this here shutterbug noob!

As Skier said,

Filter for your lenses. 1A is perfect for protecting your lens. Another great filter for outdoor shots is a circular polarizer lens. Helps cut through the haze, and you can really make the blue in your skies pop.

Tripod for sure. Ritz (Wolf here I think) has some nice ones for pretty cheap.

Check out the Learning section at http://photo.net/ Great site. I've learned a lot from there.

[rddtld6]

I think I could use some more examples of some pictures you guys have taken and are most proud of.

[Jake_Blues]

I think I could use some more examples of some pictures you guys have taken and are most proud of.

Here are a few of my favorites:

http://omgwtf.kicks-ass.org/Aug19_Trail_Ridge/Images/DSC00277.jpg

http://omgwtf.kicks-ass.org/Aug19_Trail_Ridge/Images/DSC00063.jpg

http://omgwtf.kicks-ass.org/Oct01_Loveland/Images/DSC00101.jpg

-E

[Jake_Blues]

I personally would go with GIMP. It's legal, there are a brazillion resources on the web for it, and it does anything an amateur photo chopper is going to want.

-E

[ColoradoSkier]

My personal favorite, ever...

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/166/372120507_3a2bda76c1.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/bullockfam/372120507/)

[rddtld6]

My personal favorite, ever...

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/166/372120507_3a2bda76c1.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/bullockfam/372120507/)

Wow, make it a poster and sell it on eBay. You could make bank on that one.

[Matt]

I thought these turn out pretty good from my last vacation. (no retouch work)

http://i79.photobucket.com/albums/j131/mountainmatt/MISC%20stuff/100_5778.jpg

http://i79.photobucket.com/albums/j131/mountainmatt/MISC%20stuff/100_5758.jpg

[ColoradoSkier]

Wow, make it a poster and sell it on eBay. You could make bank on that one.

About the biggest I can go with it is 8x10. It was taken with a 3mp camera. Right time, right place, wrong camera. Even though 3mp was near the cutting edge at that time... :shrug:

I could probably sell this one with inspirational sayings though, it is a 5mp pic...

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/157/371138044_63fcef0c0f.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/bullockfam/371138044/)

[MReetz]

Thats a really good one!!

[Jocko]

Here are a few from the Garden.

http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f252/chad_jock/G-of-Gs-2.jpg?t=1174842499

http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f252/chad_jock/Kissing-Camels.jpg

http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f252/chad_jock/G-of-Gs.jpg

[Jocko]

Some Favorites from our Ouray trip

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y144/cj3185002/Minnie-Gulch-3.jpg

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y144/cj3185002/Animas-Forks.jpg

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y144/cj3185002/Minnie-Gulch-2.jpg

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y144/cj3185002/Engineer-Pass-4.jpg

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y144/cj3185002/Animas-Forks-from-Cinnamon-.jpg

[rddtld6]

Nice pics all, keep em coming. I'm lovin' this.

[JeepDiva]

BTW your avatar is so cute! It made me smile. Thanks

Thanks! That was my daughter at about 5 months old.

[cheftyler]

If you can't afford PShop, get Pshop Elements, very affordable and it has most of the functionality of the full Pshop version.

[rondog]

I just scored a new/used PC that has Adobe Photoshop 6.0 on it. Anybody familiar with this? Is it another one of the cheaper/freebie versions, or is it the real thing? Haven't had a chance to dink with it yet, also have no instructions.

[rondog]

I could probably sell this one with inspirational sayings though, it is a 5mp pic...

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/157/371138044_63fcef0c0f.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/bullockfam/371138044/)

No kidding! That's either Jesus over there, or one o' them UFO thingys.


Great photo, BTW!

[cheftyler]

Pshop 6.0 is just an older version of Pshop. Not sure what the differences between it and the current (wanna say 8.0?) version are, but it'll work for you for now.

[Jocko]

I just scored a new/used PC that has Adobe Photoshop 6.0 on it. Anybody familiar with this? Is it another one of the cheaper/freebie versions, or is it the real thing? Haven't had a chance to dink with it yet, also have no instructions.

6.0 is an OLD version of photoshop. I believe it is upgradable to CS2, which is what most pros use. Cost for the uprgade is around $300. There is also a newer version out called CS3.

There is a ton of info on how to use these programs on the net. Look into the links posted above.

[ColoradoSkier]

No kidding! That's either Jesus over there, or one o' them UFO thingys.


Great photo, BTW!

Thanks - another blind luck thing when I was camping.

If you can find Jesus in there, we could eBay it for big $$... :)

[ColoradoSkier]

6.0 is an OLD version of photoshop. I believe it is upgradable to CS2, which is what most pros use. Cost for the uprgade is around $300. There is also a newer version out called CS3.

There is a ton of info on how to use these programs on the net. Look into the links posted above.

CS3 is still beta though, right?

[ColoradoSkier]

Here's an example of why you want an external flash. I bounced the light off the ceiling to get better exposure.

What a fish does...
http://static.flickr.com/160/435103822_2381c9d1eb.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/bullockfam/435103822/)

Just a happy kid...
http://static.flickr.com/184/435103953_471ab9d6e7.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/bullockfam/435103953/)

[Jocko]

CS3 is still beta though, right?

Correct.

Nice job dragging the shutter, to keep some detail in the background.

[thenimirra]

so here is my inspiration shot that got me hooked to photography. It's a pic of a bronze horse in a little shop in Vegas. My first class starts next Tuesday! Wish me luck!

http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t277/thenimirra/DSCN0091.jpg

Here are other favs I took while in Vegas...the first two were taken in Club Tao inside the Venetian. The third is a pic I took while walking outside on The Strip...

http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t277/thenimirra/clubtaobuddha.jpg

http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t277/thenimirra/clubtaoart.jpg

http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t277/thenimirra/vegasbuilding.jpg

[thenimirra]

About the biggest I can go with it is 8x10. It was taken with a 3mp camera. Right time, right place, wrong camera. Even though 3mp was near the cutting edge at that time... :shrug:

I could probably sell this one with inspirational sayings though, it is a 5mp pic...

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/157/371138044_63fcef0c0f.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/bullockfam/371138044/)


that's definitely one of my favs of yours, Skier.

I can sell a ton of those at my church...

[ColoradoSkier]

cafepress time I guess...

[Jocko]

How about the Crystal Mill???
Everyone has a pic of that.


http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y144/cj3185002/The-Crystal-Mill.jpg

[MReetz]

The most photographed outhouse in the world....no kidding

[MReetz]

I really like the temple one, I don't think it would have come out as well if you didn't have the flash accenting the palms in the foreground.
GREAT job!!

so here is my inspiration shot that got me hooked to photography. It's a pic of a bronze horse in a little shop in Vegas. My first class starts next Tuesday! Wish me luck!

http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t277/thenimirra/DSCN0091.jpg

Here are other favs I took while in Vegas...the first two were taken in Club Tao inside the Venetian. The third is a pic I took while walking outside on The Strip...

http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t277/thenimirra/clubtaobuddha.jpg

http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t277/thenimirra/clubtaoart.jpg

http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t277/thenimirra/vegasbuilding.jpg

[thenimirra]

could I use photoshop to take out the lights in the upper part of that temple shot?

[MReetz]

yep!

[ColoradoSkier]

You can use photoshop to do just about anything - the trick is learning how to achieve your goal.

[Jake_Blues]

could I use photoshop to take out the lights in the upper part of that temple shot?

My quick 5 minute "lights out" attempt:

http://omgwtf.kicks-ass.org/vegasbuilding.jpg

-E

[thenimirra]

Eric, see the statue of the Buddhist? The one taken at an angle with the light reflecting off the hand? See if you can erase the club lights in the upper right hand corner....

Thanks sweetie!

[ColoradoSkier]

I like the building better with the upper level lit.

[Jake_Blues]

Eric, see the statue of the Buddhist? The one taken at an angle with the light reflecting off the hand? See if you can erase the club lights in the upper right hand corner....

Thanks sweetie!

Ooops, I misunderstood which lights you were talking about :D I could probably take those out, but what would you put there instead? Lemme see.

-E

[thenimirra]

what version of photoshop are you guys using?

[ColoradoSkier]

CS2 - soon to be CS3 I think.

[thenimirra]

Ooops, I misunderstood which lights you were talking about :D I could probably take those out, but what would you put there instead? Lemme see.

-E



just leave it dark if you can.

The force is strong with this one.

Come to the dark side and I shall reward you...

(hint: send me your personal email address)

[thenimirra]

What I like about this whole photography thing is the great sense of adventure and learning new things. It's not just about taking a good shot. Then you have to understand how to upload it, share it, edit it.

It's as if a whole new world is opening up for me!

[ColoradoSkier]

What I like about this whole photography thing is the great sense of adventure and learning new things. It's not just about taking a good shot. Then you have to understand how to upload it, share it, edit it.

It's as if a whole new world is opening up for me!

I don't want to discourage you, but some of this is just basic computer skills everyone should have...

[thenimirra]

I don't want to discourage you, but some of this is just basic computer skills everyone should have...


You are not discouraging me at all. Yes, I am catching up. No I haven't been taking photos for years, but I am passionate about this and I am capable of learning new skill sets, Chester.

I found those photos last night and I was able to figure out the problem that caused the mix-up. I basically had two competing applications that were both trying to download pics at the same time. Somehow an Adobe Photoshop Album program was downloaded on the computer (probably some of my kid sister's doings). I got rid of one program and kept the one that's compatible with my camera.

[ColoradoSkier]

Photoshop Album probably came with the camera too, or as part of some other application from Adobe - it comes with a lot of things now.

[thenimirra]

Photoshop Album probably came with the camera too, or as part of some other application from Adobe - it comes with a lot of things now.

PictureProject came with the camera. The photoshop album had apparently been on the computer for a while but I never knew it was there. That's the perks when you have a communal house computer. Things get downloaded...

[IoN6]

I have been lucky enough to be in jobs that use it. Their licensing allows for one copy to go home, as long as you aren't using them both at the same time.

Adobe licensing does not allow that, FYI.

[Jake_Blues]

just leave it dark if you can.

The force is strong with this one.

Come to the dark side and I shall reward you...

(hint: send me your personal email address)

Well, I think it looks a bit fake with the background just chopped out completely, so I tried it two different ways:

This just has a black background inserted with a little noise to try to make it look less "fake":
http://omgwtf.kicks-ass.org/clubtaobuddha1.jpg

This just has the original background darkened and blurred slightly so it's not recognizable, but at least there is something still "there":
http://omgwtf.kicks-ass.org/clubtaobuddha2.jpg

-E

[ColoradoSkier]

Adobe licensing does not allow that, FYI.

That's how I interpreted it. I'll have to look up the official verbiage...

[Jake_Blues]

what version of photoshop are you guys using?

I don't use Photoshop at all, I use GIMP (GNU Image Manipulation Program), which is similar to Photoshop, but is free to use and modify to one's liking. It doesn't have some of Photoshop's high-end features, but it gets me where I want to go.

-E

[thenimirra]

Nice job Eric. You shall be rewarded.

[Jake_Blues]

Nice job Eric. You shall be rewarded.

Heh, next time you'll think twice about rewarding me :D

-E

[thenimirra]

Heh, next time you'll think twice about rewarding me :D

-E

I was satisfied....weren't you?:flipoff2:

[Tiffany]

Adobe licensing does not allow that, FYI.
Are you sure? I thought that was the case as well...way back to PS4...will have to look at the verbiage on my CS2 case...

[Eric]

My personal favorite, ever...

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/166/372120507_3a2bda76c1.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/bullockfam/372120507/)

Hey, btdt :flipoff2:
http://www.colorado4x4.org/vbb/attachment.php?attachmentid=6028&stc=1&d=1175021177

[thenimirra]

nice...that was so cool how you did that! You can do all this with Photoshop?

[Tiffany]

That's how I interpreted it. I'll have to look up the official verbiage...
from the adobe site:

2.4 Portable or Home Computer Use. The primary user of the Computer on which the Software is installed may install a second copy of the Software for his or her exclusive use on either a portable Computer or a Computer located at his or her home, provided the Software on the portable or home Computer is not used at the same time as the Software on the primary Computer.

[ColoradoSkier]

Hey, btdt :flipoff2:


Nice. If you had zoomed in a little more, we could use them interchangeably. :cool:

So are we going to get a forum or what? :D

[ColoradoSkier]

from the adobe site:

I knew that:

a) I had seen that recently
b) I checked this before installing that stuff at home.

Apparently CS3 was released today. I am thinking that since we bought the whole enchilada in the last 60 days, we should be able to get it as a free upgrade. My IT people are looking into it. That would be sweet.

[Tiffany]

Yeah, that has been standard policy for a long while IIRC.

Not sure if I will jump to CS3 for work...if you do let me know what you think.

[ColoradoSkier]

Will do. The beta has been out for a while now, but hadn't heard much about it.

[Tiffany]

Me either...

[thenimirra]

I'm going to be purchasing a new computer that can handle all my music and photos etc. etc. I want room for great computer games and graphics too.

Any suggestions on specs I should be looking for? I'm going to get a laptop this time around and budget for a new desktop in another year or so. Thanks all!

[ColoradoSkier]

Ask in the computer gaming sub-forum.

[thenimirra]

Good advice. I asked here first though because I was wondering what advice the shutterbugs would give related to my photography efforts.

[Scooter]

Here is the sequel to the "Dove" youtube.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v_vToQxpXFg&NR

Nice..

[thenimirra]

that's funny!

[Sound_Man]

I took this with a Cannon SD400 last night. I keep getting a couple pixels that are screwed up when I take large pictures and have to go in and fix them later. When I take a lower resolution this does not happen. You can see a red dot and a blue dot on her head and a few others if you look close. Any thoughts on what is causing this? They are not in the same place all the time and it is bugging me. Sorry for the huge pic but thats the only way you will see the problem.

http://www.thedragonsden.net/soundman/IMG_1709.JPG

[ColoradoSkier]

Dust perhaps? If they were always in the same location, I would suggest a couple dead pixels on the CCD... I see white ones in the lower left corner area too... Not sure.

[Jocko]

I was thinking dead pixels too. A dirty/dusty sensor usually shows up as dark spots. I had some of both on my D100. If it is dead pixels, there should be a program to get rid of them. There is for Nikon atleast. Google "hot pixel remap".

[thenimirra]

I'm trying to figure out what image management software to purchase...

what are the main differences between Photoshop and Photoshop Elements....besides the massive difference in price of course...?

[ColoradoSkier]

PS Elements will probably do everything you need/ want it to now. PS is overkill for most people.

These aren't really image management tools though. These are image creation/ manipulation tools. I am sure Elements has some sort of gallery management built-in, but for a true image management solution, you would be looking at Adobe Lightroom - http://www.adobe.com/products/photoshoplightroom/

[thenimirra]

Chester, last night in class, the teacher took a photo and blurred the background and did some other neat stuff. Can Photoshop Elements do this?

[Jocko]

Not Chester, but yes it can.

[thenimirra]

cool. Thanks for the comments boys....maybe I should start with photoshop elements first...

[ColoradoSkier]

Have never actually used Elements, but from what I hear, it implements the basic and common features of PS and other programs.

[OFRD_GRL]

i HATE elements.
granted im spoiled by PS... but none the less alot of cool features you cant use b/c elements doesnt have them!

[thenimirra]

I figured as much. Damn...how much does Photoshop cost again!

gr...grumble grumble....

[Jocko]

You can buy photosop 7 and the CS2 upgrade for $300 on EBAY. Just make sure you can register it in your name. There are several sellers who have been doing this for a long time.

Elements is a great place to start for around $70-$100. Don't let the haters tell ya different.

[thenimirra]

Which is better, C2 or C3?

[OFRD_GRL]

newer = gooder

:D

however i only have PS CS so i have no room to talk lol

[Jocko]

CS3 is the newest version. You will get a better deal on the CS2. Later, if needed, you can always upgrade to CS3.

Baby steps.

You can also download any of these from adobe's website and try them out for a month. I don't think you get the full versions though.

Jocko

[ColoradoSkier]

The upgrade path for PS and the suite has been changing a bit of late. The changes impact the suites more than the standalone programs I think. CS3 has become very convoluted...

[Jake_Blues]

CS3 is the newest version. You will get a better deal on the CS2. Later, if needed, you can always upgrade to CS3.

Baby steps.

You can also download any of these from adobe's website and try them out for a month. I don't think you get the full versions though.

Jocko

A copy of CS3 Web Premium just showed up on my desk today, ironically enough. My rep told me that you can no longer purchase CS2 as of a few weeks ago.

The upgrade path for PS and the suite has been changing a bit of late. The changes impact the suites more than the standalone programs I think. CS3 has become very convoluted...

You ain't just whistlin dixie. There are now at least six different suites available with CS3.

-E

[ColoradoSkier]

A copy of CS3 Web Premium just showed up on my desk today, ironically enough. My rep told me that you can no longer purchase CS2 as of a few weeks ago.



You ain't just whistlin dixie. There are now at least six different suites available with CS3.

-E

Did you buy it, or was this a promotional thing?

[thenimirra]

and where can I get my copy Eric...you owe me for past trangressions!


or at least...if you haven't done anything YET...I'm sure you will given time. :)

[Jake_Blues]

Did you buy it, or was this a promotional thing?

I bought a copy for our media guy, he gets all the fun toys. We have two copies of CS2 we need to upgrade at some point as well, but no great rush on it.

and where can I get my copy Eric...you owe me for past trangressions!
or at least...if you haven't done anything YET...I'm sure you will given time. :)

$1500 and you too can have one! Actually, for what you're doing, it makes no sense to get any of the software suites. You'd never use all the other stuff it comes with. Just get a student copy of Photoshop.

-E

[thenimirra]

alright spill it...what do I have to do to get you to give me one of those copies, my sweet?

[ColoradoSkier]

I bought a copy for our media guy, he gets all the fun toys. We have two copies of CS2 we need to upgrade at some point as well, but no great rush on it.

-E

The licensing does allow you to install it at a remote location, as long as the two installations won't be used concurrently...

[thenimirra]

I live out by the airport...that's remote enough isn't it?

[thenimirra]

I bought a copy for our media guy, he gets all the fun toys. We have two copies of CS2 we need to upgrade at some point as well, but no great rush on it.



$1500 and you too can have one! Actually, for what you're doing, it makes no sense to get any of the software suites. You'd never use all the other stuff it comes with. Just get a student copy of Photoshop.

-E


you don't think I need the suite...then what should I buy? Photoshop Elements?

[Jake_Blues]

you don't think I need the suite...then what should I buy? Photoshop Elements?

I personally have access to Photoshop and I still use GIMP anyway, which is free. It does all the things I need in a photo editing package.

If you want to learn Photoshop so you'll be able to use it in a work environment, I'd get the educational priced Photoshop Extended version so you can learn all the different parts of it (this is $300).

I'd definitely get GIMP over Photoshop elements though.

The licensing does allow you to install it at a remote location, as long as the two installations won't be used concurrently...

The license only allows the primary user of the software at their work to also install it on one portable or home computer. So my media guy can can take a copy home for his computer, but I can't.

-E

[thenimirra]

OK, thanks for the advice all!

[OFRD_GRL]

I personally have access to Photoshop and I still use GIMP anyway, which is free. It does all the things I need in a photo editing package.



-E

ive never used it but ive heard alot of good things abotu gimp