Faster than a Veyron?

[scottycards]

Today SSC Motorcars is trying to break the speed record of the Veyron out on US highway 93 out of Elko, NV. MKM racing promotions, the people who run Open Road Racing events out there in the summer are assisting with the test.

The Veyron set the record at the VW test track, where the conditions are much more controlled, at 253MPH.

The SSC car has a theoretical top speed of 273MPH with 1183HP. I can't stand when manufacturer's "estimate" their top speed. Bench racing is just that- talk.

This road is dead straight, and pretty smooth- I can vouch for that. I wonder what tire they're running.

Edit: I think I'm going to hurl- this thing has a "horsepower gauge". I just noticed it in the specs..............

Here is more info for you speed junkies:

http://www.sscautos.com/pdf/20070305.pdf

http://www.sscautos.com

I hope they beat the Veyron top speed and raise the bar a notch.

[BlazerZR2]

Veyron has a horsepower guage too......

[lilgreenjeepyj]

I want a horsepower gauge for the jeep... 0-60 in 4 seconds.....

[starbreaker666]

Hmm... The veryron is a producttion vehicle, albeit a special one with limitied proctuction to say the least. This looks like a one off car designed just fro this event. Of course i did not read the entire site, but I al still gonan take a veyron of this.

[scottycards]

This one is classified as a production vehicle- you can order one up on their website. There is even a color selection to choose from. It's definitely a limited deal, much like the Veyron, but this thing (I think) is more like a kit car. It's a SBC with twin turbos. The numbers are pretty sick- I think 0-60 was 2.7sec or some ungodly low number.

I don't know what is with the horsepower gauge- this and the Veyron both have them. I do know that if you're putting down 1K horsepower, you had better darn well not be looking at the dash. You will KNOW exactly how much power you're putting out..........A FRIGGIN' LOT!!!

My friends in Elko said it was cold and slightly snowy there yesterday, so I doubt they were able to run. I'll keep checking and post results if they can run the test.

[ColoradoSkier]

I think the Veyron looks better.

[Jake_Blues]

There are 1500 horsepower Vipers out there, but the Veryon has all the techno-wizardry to actually be able to use that power in real-world applications. I'd definitely take the Veyron over these types of cars that are realistically only good for high-speed straight runs.

-E

[Steve]

Meh. :shrug:

Obviously the definition of "production car" for this speed record is quite liberal. :rolleyes:

[starbreaker666]

Meh. :shrug:

Obviously the definition of "production car" for this speed record is quite liberal. :rolleyes:

Exactly what I was thinking. I also agree there are street cars with as much or more power, but the Veyron can actually manage it.

[Eric]

The Veyron set the record at the VW test track, where the conditions are much more controlled, at 253MPH.

Veyron video (http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x157l2_bugatti-veyron-at-top-speed)

[Joker]

Veyron video (http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x157l2_bugatti-veyron-at-top-speed)

That was I N S A N E!!!

A football field every second!:eek:

[scottycards]

I got some info, actually all the info, but have been asked to keep it on the DL until the company releases it.

What I can share: The Veyron is still the fastest. But the speed was quite impressive.

Production forecasts on this car are super low numbers- 25 per year or so.

They were running a special Michelin Pilot Sport Cup tire with the (i) speed rating. Michelin only speed certifies their tires to 217MPH (this has been their standard since they had the MXX3 model a few years back). This tire was certified in excess of 217MPH for a "certain number of minutes". I don't know specifically how many.

The guy driving the car is someone I've known for years, and he's spent a decent amount of time behind the wheel at over 200MPH.

They made the run, all are safe, and I'm sure they'll be back for another attempt before too long.

More info when I get the green light to post.

[scottycards]

Word has it that Rick Doria hit 6th gear on the final run, got a bunch of wheelspin, mistakenly thought that the clutch let go, and backed out before hitting the timing trap.
My source told me the speed was 228.484, not 230.

Here's the official info:
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SSC fails to top Bugatti Veyron in high-speed challenge
Posted on Friday 23 March 2007


America?s Shelby Super Cars has failed to eclipse Bugatti as the maker of the world?s fastest production car, with its Ultimate Aero TT managing to reach a top speed of 230mph, 23mph shy of the Veyron?s 253mph mark. The widely publicized challenge, which was run yesterday on a closed off section of Nevada highway, was almost called off due to poor weather conditions the day before.

Behind the wheel of the American supercar was experienced road racer Rick Doria, who managed to keep control of the 1183bhp twin-turbocharged beast. Unfortunately, due to the weather, only two runs on a shortened two mile stretch of road was deemed safe. On his first run, Doria managed to reach 221mph. For his second and final attempt, he reached 230mph and claimed was only at 50% throttle while in top gear.

Both Doria and team leader Jerod Shelby are confident they can top the Bugatti Veyron if given a longer stretch of road. Shelby Supercars is expected to make another attempt within months.

[scottycards]

Short answer? YES. Apparently they got it done. Faster than a Veyron.
Very friggin' cool. I can't even imagine that kind of speed on a two lane highway. 257. For the love of.........
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SSC is pleased to inform you that we successfully completed our speed record testing. Below is a portion from the full press release to be released shortly.

WEST RICHLAND, WA (SEPT 13, 2007) ? Shelby Supercars (SSC), manufacturer of the ultra high-performance Ultimate Aero Twin Turbo, set the new ?World?s Fastest Production Car? record earlier today with an average top speed of 255.83 mph. Confident of the 1183 hp vehicle?s abilities, SSC set out to validate their top speed claim in accordance with the strict guidelines set by Guinness World Records. Among other requirements, in order to meet Guinness? approval, a vehicle testing for the top speed record must race down the course, turn around, and make a second pass in the opposite direction within one hour. The vehicle?s ?top speed? is calculated by averaging the top speeds of each pass in order to negate any favorable road or weather conditions. Today, on a temporarily-closed 2 lane stretch of public highway in Washington State, the Ultimate Aero posted a top speed of 257.11 mph (413.83 kph) on its first pass and 254.55 mph (409.71 kph) on its return pass to set the new top speed record at a staggering 255.83 mph (411.76 kph). The data, collected by Dewetron?s world-renowned GPS tracking system, and other checks will be verified by Guinness before the Ultimate Aero is officially crowned the ?World?s Fastest Production Car.? This breaks the current official record held by the Koenigsegg CCR at 242 mph by 11.83 mph and the Bugatti Veyron?s unofficial speed of 253 mph by 3.11 mph.

Best regards,

Junus
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Junus Khan
Marketing Director
SSC Autos

[Camp]

I can't imagine going that fast. I would think that would have some serious pucker factor :D

[DanaT]

Scotty,

I must ask the question, what is their definition of a "production car"?

To me, a production cars is one that is EPA / DOT / CE certified to meet all applicable passenger car safety and emissions requirements and is for sale to the public. Many of the "kit cars" are not true production cars because they have not been certified. If I am not mistakenm, the veyron is certfied, at a minimum to CE standards.

I mean if we are talking kit cars or other non certified cars, look up a "true street car" that is killer fast. A Dauer 962. It meets definitions of a production car, but come on, it really isn't. It barely meets the definition of a street car (it may be US legal though??).

Or start throwing in something like a 911GT1 Strasse.

-Dana

[scottycards]

That's always a question in these deals- production......yeah, right. 20 cars per year.

That question goes way back to the early days of the FIA and the Cobra, even. Not a lot of 250 MPH cars running around on the streets, at least that I've seen. But still, way cool, and way fast, and could theoretically be street driven- at least until they break down. Christ, the average Ferrari spends as much time in the shop as it does on the road.......

I'm with ya on the production thing, tho. To me, maybe prodcution should be something under 250K, cause there ain't enough people to buy it in these stratospeheric price ranges........

[ColoradoSkier]

2 questions:

1. Why didn't they do this at the VW test track, or some other test track?

2. How long until Bugatti ratchets one up and blows it away?

[ColoradoSkier]

Veyron video (http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x157l2_bugatti-veyron-at-top-speed)

AWESOME - I want to see it in HD now.

[scottycards]

2 questions:

1. Why didn't they do this at the VW test track, or some other test track?

2. How long until Bugatti ratchets one up and blows it away?

Just a guess, but they also could have gone to the Firestone testing grounds in Fort Stockton, TX. HUGE 5 mile oval. You can see it on Google Earth from space.

I think they wanted to do it on a road, because IMO that lends credibility as it being a streetable car. I think it adds to cool factor- running on a track is one thing, running on a crowned (higher in the middle for drainage, tougher to drive on at high speed) road is definitely much more difficult, and lends extra credibility to the handling characteristics of the machine. It might also have something to do with the Guiness standards/record requirements.

Bugatti? Didn't they used to have some kind of a record on a track, with uber-controlled circumstances? Maybe they'll come up with a car that can actually produce those speeds in real-wrold conditions someday.......;)

From another website- some dude did some calculations:

.357 cd, 19.0 sq.ft. frontal area. This calculator : http://www.bgsoflex.com/aero.html says 998 hp is needed, at 255 the engine's doing 6750 rpm. My handy-dandy calculator says a 387 cu. in. engine would need ~23 psi boost to make 1000 hp at 6750! And that's not 91 octane pump gas either... Geez, that's stout !!

[ColoradoSkier]

I'd still take the Bugatti over this.

http://blog.sloaninnovations.com/wp-images/Bugatti-Veyron-3-thumb.jpg

http://www.shelbysupercars.com/images/world-record.jpg

[scottycards]

I just don't understand people's facination with the Bugatti. It pretty much does nothing for me, as it's completely impractical- costs a fortune, I'm sure maintenance has to be done by your personal mechanic Luigi, who you have to fly to the USA and put him up in the Four Seasons while he works on your rig between martinis, and if you hit a bump in the road, the whole front fascia comes off.......

And the horsepower gauge is about the cheesiest thing of all time. Right up there with revolver shackles and see through plastic diff guards.......

An SBC powered SSC, on the other hand.....:drool: :drool: :drool:

[ColoradoSkier]

An SBC powered SSC, on the other hand...

Looks like a Lambo. :flipoff2:

I first saw the Veyron at the 2000 Detroit Auto Show and was in love. Gorgeous body lines that set it apart, in my eyes at least.

[scottycards]

Lambo/Noble hybrid, kinda.

Still rather have a Z06, myself.........or even a C6......oh, wait! HA!

[ColoradoSkier]

Lambo/Noble hybrid, kinda.

Still rather have a Z06, myself.........or even a C6......oh, wait! HA!

I think there is one for sale...

http://forums.corvetteforum.com/showthread.php?p=1562002536

[scottycards]

I think there is one for sale...

http://forums.corvetteforum.com/showthread.php?p=1562002536

Not enough room in the garage for a coupe and a convertible, so you'll have to buy the 'vert. :D ;) :P

[DanaT]

Scotty,

Have you run the vette that you have for sale at bandiemere?

-Dana

[DanaT]

What I like about vettes, is that they have somewhat reasonable parts.

I am in trouble with parts costs. I fried my clutch (anything over 0.7bar boost in 2nd or above and my clucth can't handle it) and now I must figure out how to convince my wife that I should be allowed to spend money to fix it. Really a cup car clutch is not enough, I need something with more clamping force.

My wife thinks i have too many toys and with school for me and my daughter, she is complaining about my toy cost. I must find cheap toys. I am just going to buy a 5.0 and put NOS on it to be cheap.....

If I am not making sense it is because of a TUI (typing under the influence).

What is really sad, is that I can go faster with no (or very little) money but I am too damn lazy.

-Dana

[scottycards]

No cars for sale at the scottycards household currently.

dana- what clutch for what type of car? A4? Dude, my A4 would eat $2000 SPEC clutches no matter what I did- I'm not a drag racer at all, and they would still burn up. I did run about 26psi max, however (about 1.75bar). I don't know what the deal was, but when I sold the A4, that was about the only thing I was happy about- not having to deal with the persistant clutch issues.