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YJgirl
June 4th, 2006, 09:53 PM
What's wrong with these pictures??? :confused:
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid207/pb3ff2908495524bf3b129168b73322bc/eeaa6fec.jpg
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid207/p5c69e6fa3c946a950abc7f93b0a3958e/eeaa6d19.jpg
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid207/p8bd820b413ea99561a89514fd80e2a9f/eeaa4587.jpg
:flipoff2:

So the Trail Ridge Runners went to GJ to run 21 Road, Teron and I leading the trail, and Shawn with his wife Chris joining us from the club. Friday night I call Steve to see what he's up to on Saturday and all I had to say was 21 Road and he said sounds good to me!
The funny thing about the pics above is that Wally didn't really want to go with us - he had house chores to do, but Friday night after a few beers and he heard that Steve was going he changed his mind....maybe he should not have. :D

Please note, yes, he flopped twice - hard the first time - in spots I've seen him drive with no issues. :shrug: I guess since I wasn't driving he wanted to show me up with two flops on opposite sides, and a breakage!!!
...more pics to come!

dave m
June 4th, 2006, 10:09 PM
Wally, how come you didn't give us a big show like this when we came out last week? I'm really dissapointed now just seeing the pictures. also now I see why your frame is toast.:tisk:

YJgirl
June 4th, 2006, 10:10 PM
So our day starts out a bit off normal - we don't have to work on anyones rig at the trail head! But we did have to replace a center pin on the Valtastrophe prior to leaving the house...sorry we were late guys!
We drop into the trail and at the first obstacle Steve is having issues with the bronco - the tranny isn't engaging...sort of. (4-Low Steve ;) )ya didn't think I'd let that one slip by did ya!
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid207/p533388c9128f51a46a0a9b1c50685e58/eeaa714e.jpg
Here's Mike with his purdy TJ - not a scratch on it!
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid207/p5dc0c36b96cc151e9576ec9ed31c4503/eeaa714b.jpg
The Pagan & Kanga:
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid207/p4a73155e4daa9a86de886f594d7f7b00/eeaa714d.jpg
Kanga is one of the coolest wheeling dogs - totally watches the lines and hates it when she has to get out and can't ride with dad.

Here is where the trouble for Wally starts:
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid207/pbae9214a594dec8fd62ea7f33af561f3/eeaa703d.jpg
oops. That's not supposed to point at the tire.
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid207/p900180ceab5f2b0d950647b5673c03e6/eeaa6569.jpg
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid207/pd8d1bf7c6d1cc5868233f54a5e378588/eeaa7026.jpg
So Mike was nice enough to drive Wally into town and hit Napa for a new part. While they were shopping, Shawn, Teron, Steve and I moved Wally's rig off the rocks and straightened out the wheels. This little guy made sure we didn't screw up his house while we winched the YJ off the rocks. His house was not touched.
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid207/p8c488bc51cfcf5a1b3fabaf230acf498/eeaa6f0c.jpg
Then we continued on! Wally told us to, just so ya'll don't think we left him.
Further up the trail we come to a new obstacle due to run off. The right line is do-able with wheel base, so since Wally is absent for our entertainment, Teron stepped in!
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid207/p6cbbef99cdbfc388fe46c85bdb34cff4/eeaa6f05.jpg
And sits the Valtastrophe on it's belly - square on it's belly.
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid207/p12209b289907b3044cfcac2030262cec/eeaa6ec7.jpg
Clint showed up just in time to have to pull Teron forward.
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid207/pdf515db0a2627800b8502fb4bd442e41/eeaa6df4.jpg

Steve
June 4th, 2006, 10:20 PM
We drop into the trail and at the first obstacle Steve is having issues with the bronco - the tranny isn't engaging...sort of. (4-Low Steve ;) )ya didn't think I'd let that one slip by did ya!

Nope, didn't expect you to let it slide Val. :P It worked MUCH better once I put it in 4LO rather than 4HI. :shrug:

Had a great time guys, thanks for calling Val. Another fun run with great people. :thumbsup: Nice to meet you Shawn. :)

:beer:

YJgirl
June 4th, 2006, 10:24 PM
By now Mike and Wally have put Wally's rig back together and have caught back up with us.
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid207/p86e32898d053d36d20c0a672167259a1/eeaa6da2.jpg
Then we get to this obstacle that is right before the alcove. Again, another obstacle that we have watched Wally go over plenty of times with no problems.
Pre - flop:
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid207/pf12cf74ec43015be7b97bbfd555ab08d/eeaa6d5f.jpg

Post-flop:
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid207/p552e435d8c24a9b265e16841e4abdb3d/eeaa6cbf.jpg
So we winch him back over - notice he broke the rock - that's the rock that flopped him under his front right.
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid207/p217be527f8ad783bbda2755ec5d30452/eeaa6c67.jpg
Hey Wally - Can you find the problem with this pic? (hint - all 4 wheels are rubber side down). :P
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid207/p7108dc0d04afa527ab52cc0d3463a51f/eeaa6be4.jpg
For precautionary measures, Wally does attempt the obstacle under the alcove, which has turned nasty with spring run off. In order to avoid a second flop the guys hold a strap while he goes down - note I said in order to avoid the second flop.
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid207/p6136193bbe3c4d0615a8aa51a4cc280b/eeaa6a6c.jpg
He actually drives out from this point, and the rest of us choose to go around the rock.
The very next obstacle:
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid207/pd56a1821dc809c9831a4c8c2d1315dab/eeaa6958.jpg
Clint to the rescue again!
During inspection of the YJ after it's on all 4's Wally discovers this in not one, but three places:
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid207/p85159a964b1c756d490209589f1957a3/eeaa68db.jpg
No bueno!

Thanks for the show Wally. Sorry you put Blueberry on both sides, broke, and cracked your frame. Just when Josh and Jeremy are almost done with their rebuilds too!

Shawn had never been out 21 Road, so we let Wally turn around and the rest of the crew continued on. As the day had been, there was more carnage. Clint lost the strap on his gas tank going up a ledge.
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid207/p446c0a4f5da57d9f06d26f4342ee7d92/eeaa66b1.jpg
Then on the way out Shawn had an issue with a rear spring.
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid207/pbd1cf93d8ee7f1c954b53bc502ff3e51/eeaa669f.jpg

But we all had a great day!!!

Thanks Steve for letting my mom ride shotgun! As always, she had a great time out on the trail.
:beer:

YJgirl
June 4th, 2006, 10:33 PM
Oh yeah....the rest of the pics are here:
http://www.imagestation.com/album/pictures.html?id=2105630390

al24
June 5th, 2006, 03:55 AM
What's wrong with these pictures??? :confused:
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid207/pb3ff2908495524bf3b129168b73322bc/eeaa6fec.jpg
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid207/p5c69e6fa3c946a950abc7f93b0a3958e/eeaa6d19.jpg
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid207/p8bd820b413ea99561a89514fd80e2a9f/eeaa4587.jpg
:flipoff2:



Please note, yes, he flopped twice - hard the first time - in spots I've seen him drive with no issues. :shrug: I guess since I wasn't driving he wanted to show me up with two flops on opposite sides, and a breakage!!!
...more pics to come!

Considering the source, they look like normal operating procedure. :shrug:

Clint
June 5th, 2006, 07:15 AM
Had a great time on Saturday. I cant believe how much 21 road has changed up towards the top. Have to run it again soon!

It was good to finally meet you all. Hopefully we can get Wallys jeep fixed and keep him off the mtn bike this summer.

Clint

ThePagan
June 5th, 2006, 08:14 AM
Had a great time.. thanks to Wally, Clint, Steve, Val, Teron, and Mike for showing us around. Thanks to Wally for the comic relief... Pics will be posted soon.

- Shawn

TracYJ
June 5th, 2006, 10:43 AM
Nice pics everybody! While I was waiting for my morning group (that didn't show), I saw Wally coming out on his parts run, didn't realize their was a group up the trail already. When we passed you guys coming out around 6 p.m., we were headed in for a eve./night run. Made it to the end of the trail by 8:15 and out to 16 road pavement by 9 pm. Had dinner, then went home. Just a heads up for anyone thinking of running 21 Rd. next weekend....on the 10th, the Red Rock 4 Wheelers are headed up for their monthly club run on 21 Rd. Last time they did it, there was 15-20 vehicles and it was an all day event. So if your gonna run it, get there early b4 the circus rolls in. Wally...too bad, so sad. Sounds like a typical 21 road trip for you, but the frame breakage...even you don't deserve that much carnage. :flipoff2:

Wally
June 6th, 2006, 07:49 AM
Val, that was a BLAST as usual, Shawn great to meet you :beer: Big thanks to Teron and Clint for winching me over each time :rolleyes: Mike thanks for dragging me back into town to get another tierod...lifetime warranty baby :flipoff2: Steve, thanks for heckling once again, it's too bad i couldn't hang around because after that performance, i believe i owed everyone there at LEAST one round of beers at the ale house :hail: Here's the only pics i snapped at the end of the day when i dumped it the second time.

http://www.phatserver.net/~wally/YJ%20Tech/21_Road_Cracked_Frame0005.JPG
http://www.phatserver.net/~wally/YJ%20Tech/21_Road_Cracked_Frame0003.JPG
http://www.phatserver.net/~wally/YJ%20Tech/21_Road_Cracked_Frame0007.JPG
http://www.phatserver.net/~wally/YJ%20Tech/21_Road_Cracked_Frame0008.JPG
http://www.phatserver.net/~wally/YJ%20Tech/21_Road_Cracked_Frame0009.JPG

Here's the Pass side crack, it's the worst as you can see it goes under the frame and up to the cross member
http://www.phatserver.net/~wally/YJ%20Tech/21_Road_Cracked_Frame0011.JPG
http://www.phatserver.net/~wally/YJ%20Tech/21_Road_Cracked_Frame0012.JPG
http://www.phatserver.net/~wally/YJ%20Tech/21_Road_Cracked_Frame0013.JPG

Here's the driver side rear which again goes all the way through to the cross member
http://www.phatserver.net/~wally/YJ%20Tech/21_Road_Cracked_Frame0014.JPG
http://www.phatserver.net/~wally/YJ%20Tech/21_Road_Cracked_Frame0018.JPG
http://www.phatserver.net/~wally/YJ%20Tech/21_Road_Cracked_Frame0020.JPG

And the driver side front which has started cracking all the way through as well :rant:
http://www.phatserver.net/~wally/YJ%20Tech/21_Road_Cracked_Frame0015.JPG
http://www.phatserver.net/~wally/YJ%20Tech/21_Road_Cracked_Frame0017.JPG

ThePagan
June 6th, 2006, 08:52 PM
Here are some of the pics we took - and a link to all of them:

At the beginning:
http://www.pubdesigns.com/4x4trips/albums/20060510TRR21Road/images/DSCN0134.jpg

Me playing around:
http://www.pubdesigns.com/4x4trips/albums/20060510TRR21Road/images/DSCN0136.jpg

Hooking up TWO winches to get Wally out:
http://www.pubdesigns.com/4x4trips/albums/20060510TRR21Road/images/DSCN0148.jpg

Teron coming over where Wally just fell:
http://www.pubdesigns.com/4x4trips/albums/20060510TRR21Road/images/DSCN0185.jpg

Wally making up for it with a nice line:
http://www.pubdesigns.com/4x4trips/albums/20060510TRR21Road/images/DSCN0221.jpg

Steve making it look easy:
http://www.pubdesigns.com/4x4trips/albums/20060510TRR21RoadSet2/images/DSCN0280.jpg

Clint showing that Bronco's can flex:
http://www.pubdesigns.com/4x4trips/albums/20060510TRR21RoadSet2/images/DSCN0296.jpg

Heading out:
http://www.pubdesigns.com/4x4trips/albums/20060510TRR21RoadSet2/images/DSCN0313.jpg

Links to full set of pictures from trip:
21 Road Set 1 (http://www.pubdesigns.com/4x4trips/albums/20060510TRR21Road/index.html)
21 Road Set 2 (http://www.pubdesigns.com/4x4trips/albums/20060510TRR21RoadSet2/index.html)

Wally
June 6th, 2006, 10:08 PM
Shawn, GREAT PICS!!! Thanks again for the help, I really feel bad about dumping the rig so many damn times and holding everyone up....i was for sure "That Guy" on 21 road sat :rolleyes:

YJgirl
June 6th, 2006, 11:39 PM
Shawn, GREAT PICS!!! Thanks again for the help, I really feel bad about dumping the rig so many damn times and holding everyone up....i was for sure "That Guy" on 21 road sat :rolleyes:
:shrug: Karma baby!!! :flipoff2: (you were just trying to show me how it is really done vs. my ameture flops on billings.)
...Carrie's right - you're going to learn how to drive from the passenger seat of the red yj until blueberry is fixed. :P

ThePagan
June 7th, 2006, 08:32 AM
Shawn, GREAT PICS!!! Thanks again for the help, I really feel bad about dumping the rig so many damn times and holding everyone up....i was for sure "That Guy" on 21 road sat :rolleyes:

Don't sweat it.. no one cared. At some point one of us is always "that guy". I'd wheel with you anytime.

- Shawn

Clint
June 7th, 2006, 05:19 PM
Great pics. Im excited to go again. You guys make sure to hollar next time you are in town!

MMIXJ
June 11th, 2006, 02:27 PM
see wally, now if you hadn't sold the XJ you wouldn't have to worry 'bout cracking the frame now would you...
;)

P.S.
we still need to hook up for some 2-wheeled fun sometime... fruita?

cheers.

terry

redtj98
June 11th, 2006, 08:25 PM
Nice pics as allways. Wally are you going to plate it up to fix the craks or replace the frame? just wondering . Steve what kind of axles do you have in your front D44? next spring Ill have the Cherokee done and Cruze over and wheel with you guys /gals thats if you dont mind playing Guide.

Steve
June 11th, 2006, 09:58 PM
Steve what kind of axles do you have in your front D44?
Warn alloy shafts and CTM u-joints.

Wally
June 12th, 2006, 09:43 AM
Nice pics as allways. Wally are you going to plate it up to fix the craks or replace the frame? just wondering.

I'm going to hook up with clint in a few weeks and plate the entire outside of the frame rail with 3/16" steel so i can play this summer, then come winter it's either a new frame or a custom built one

Gunter
June 12th, 2006, 02:12 PM
do you drive it or trailer it?u are nuts if you drive on the street with other people(ie,the public) around.sounds like a lawsuit waiting to happen!

Steve
June 12th, 2006, 02:18 PM
do you drive it or trailer it?u are nuts if you drive on the street with other people(ie,the public) around.sounds like a lawsuit waiting to happen!
I assume your ignorant comments are directed at Wally, but just in case, this reply applies equally to all of the rigs on this trip.

Huh??? :confused: It's fully street legal, licensed and insured, so what's the problem?

redtj98
June 12th, 2006, 07:28 PM
I'm going to hook up with clint in a few weeks and plate the entire outside of the frame rail with 3/16" steel so i can play this summer, then come winter it's either a new frame or a custom built one

If you want to build a tube chassis integrated with your tub let me know the shop should be open by winter . We could probably complete it in a long weekend

Wally
June 12th, 2006, 09:01 PM
If you want to build a tube chassis integrated with your tub let me know the shop should be open by winter . We could probably complete it in a long weekend

cool thanks for the offer, I'll keep that in mind, I'm not really sure what I'm going to do yet for the winter, just tossing ideas around in my head till i find something that sticks :D

As for your comment Gunter :rolleyes: I've LONG since learned to ignore ANYTHING and EVERYTHING that you spew out online. Everything is always the most extreme negative point of view, exaggerated so much, that i have to believe your parents abandoned you as a child, for there is no other rational reason a human being can get off so much on insulting other peoples ideas and hard work :shrug: Or maybe it's as simple as you're just a D!CK :flipoff2:

Mogguy
June 12th, 2006, 10:04 PM
Wally, I have a very clean frame for you. Just come pick it up in Cedaredge. I was getting ready to start cleaning shop and that needs to go!
Let me know? Tyson