Spy Pics from the docks - UPDATE - 12 Dec

[RockYacht]

Couple of pics from the dry dock. No the Yacht isn't in for work, yet. I've got another project in the shop right now.

Major chassis mods to a former project CJ. Last go around was all about "no substitue for cubic inches" :D It got the Buick 455, TH400, custom headers, rotated Tcase and a few other minor odds and ends. This time it's all about "where's da beef" graemlins/rasta.gif

So far there's a D60F, HyBrid HP60/14bR, SOA front suspension, 1/4 elip tri-4link rear with wheel base stretch to 104" :eek:

Couple of chassis shots:

http://colorado4x4.org/bobl/projects/markchassis.jpg
http://colorado4x4.org/bobl/projects/markchassis1.jpg


Front axle/suspension:
http://colorado4x4.org/bobl/projects/frontaxle.jpg
http://colorado4x4.org/bobl/projects/frontaxle1.jpg

1/4 spring pack mounts:

http://colorado4x4.org/bobl/projects/springmounts.jpg
http://colorado4x4.org/bobl/projects/springmounts1.jpg
http://colorado4x4.org/bobl/projects/springmount2.jpg

So far so good, long way to go yet.

L8TR, Bob

[ December 12, 2003, 07:17 PM: Message edited by: Rock Yacht ]

[Camp]

Looking good Bob. Making much use of the bender yet? I'll take it from the photo's you finally got a Digi cam?

What packs did you use for the rear? graemlins/beer.gif

[RockYacht]

Yes finally bought a camera...

Da Benda? Oh ya, i'll get those pics up in a couple days, still have some work to do on the rear subframe.

Springs? If I told you I'd have to off you! :D 3/4 ton chebby.


Bob

[Camp]

I was just curious about the springs. I am already commited to coils on the buggy, obviously graemlins/thefinger.gif

[Eagle]

So,

Are you going to cut the body off at the end of the frame? I noticed the frame ends at the rear leaf mount.

[Geesh]

Bob, you rock! :cool:

Good motivation for me to keep going on mine, thanks!

good fawking work

[RockYacht]

Originally posted by Eagle:
Are you going to cut the body off at the end of the frame? I noticed the frame ends at the rear leaf mount. No, have to keep the back seat and top. I have a toob creation to go back in there, still working on that though.

Bob

[RockYacht]

Originally posted by Geesh:
Bob, you rock! :cool:

Good motivation for me to keep going on mine, thanks!

good fawking work Cookie!!! Wazzup? Got yours running yet? Come Awwwnnnn. graemlins/thefinger.gif

[Geesh]

Originally posted by Rock Yacht:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Geesh:
Bob, you rock! :cool:

Good motivation for me to keep going on mine, thanks!

good fawking work Cookie!!! Wazzup? Got yours running yet? Come Awwwnnnn. graemlins/thefinger.gif </font>[/QUOTE]Got the dash on last weekend; I needed it there to hold the steering column mount bracketry. Gonna work the fuel cell this weekend and the front end is next.

I am looking for leaf spring bushings for the waggy springs. you mentioned something about Rancho stuff??? Any direct, dear Guru?

Thanks, Cookie, TRO

[-FULLSIZE]

whats your welding set up? -or how did you weld the spring perch to the cast housing so clean? I'm about to mine just like that.


Looks bitchin btw. graemlins/beer.gif

[CSP]

All I can say is excellent!

I been meaning to talk to you about some sliders for a CJ5. I've officially put the CJ6 on the back burner in favor of something I can get going a lot quicker. Will send a PM.

[RockYacht]

Originally posted by -FULLSIZE:
whats your welding set up? -or how did you weld the spring perch to the cast housing so clean? I'm about to mine just like that.


Looks bitchin btw. graemlins/beer.gif MillerMatic 210.

[auto_know]

Looks very nice! Cann't wait to see a pic when it is done! graemlins/beer.gif

[dapozer]

I have seen this this beast and could give out all of the goods but I am afraid of the green beast hurting me. Bob it is looking awsome, still having dreams about the work I saw. A little tall for me though graemlins/thefinger.gif . Talk with ya soon
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[cheROCKee]

Where did you get the weld on frame eye for the shackles? I rememder deeing the ad for them a while back, but now that I need some I can't remember who sells them.

[RockYacht]

Da Poser knows! :D

cheROCKee, I made them. I make all my own parts. :D They are not what you think, more than just a bushing... I'll get some close ups when I tear it apart for prep and paint.

[TerryHowe]

Ya gonna be running open diffs like that? :D

Why the hybrid rear? What are the advantages of the 14 bolt outers on that?

[Scott@Rockstomper]

Originally posted by TerryHowe:
Ya gonna be running open diffs like that? :D
Why the hybrid rear? What are the advantages of the 14 bolt outers on that? I believe there'll be a spool and an ARB headed into those... :drool:

I'm not 100% sure, but I think the hybrid rear was done as an easy way to get 35 spline axles to fit through, and not have to deal with spindle boring hassles.

[-FULLSIZE]

Originally posted by Scott@Rockstomper:
I'm not 100% sure, but I think the hybrid rear was done as an easy way to get 35 spline axles to fit through, and not have to deal with spindle boring hassles. Spindle boring is much cheaper and easier then then building or even buying a rear HP60. :D

I THINK (I don't know Bob L) the HPrear60 is back there to max out that bling factor with F/R 35 spline HP60's graemlins/smokin.gif

[ November 21, 2003, 11:17 PM: Message edited by: -FULLSIZE ]

[CSP]

Originally posted by -FULLSIZE:
I THINK (I don't know Bob L) the HPrear60 is back there to max out that bling factor with F/R 35 spline HP60's graemlins/smokin.gif Yeah, Bob is all about the bling bling. NOT! graemlins/thefinger.gif

[Eric]

The Rock Yacht sports a chrome prop, you better believe it's all about the bling! graemlins/thefinger.gif

The HP60 helps the d-shaft angle and it needs it. That 455/TH400/D300 setup is a looooong biotch. So, if you're gonna graft spindles onto a HP60 ya might as well use spindles that are cheap, plentiful, and already sized for the big shafts. They're also more asthetically pleasing IMO because the hub doesn't stick out as far as the D60/D70 variety (For whatever that's worth). graemlins/beer.gif

[Chris Overacker]

Nice fab work, lookeen goooood!

? for Ya. The D60 up front, is it a Dodge or Chevy? Have you modified the width of it? Is the drive shaft to TH400 going to be an issue?

[Camp]

Originally posted by -FULLSIZE:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Scott@Rockstomper:
I'm not 100% sure, but I think the hybrid rear was done as an easy way to get 35 spline axles to fit through, and not have to deal with spindle boring hassles. Spindle boring is much cheaper and easier then then building or even buying a rear HP60. :D

I THINK (I don't know Bob L) the HPrear60 is back there to max out that bling factor with F/R 35 spline HP60's graemlins/smokin.gif </font>[/QUOTE]Last I talked to Bob, the rear was done for exactly the reason Scott said. The other issue it solves is how thin the spindle gets when you bore a D60 to fit 35 spline tongue.gif And when you build your own, already having the correct jig, it is cheaper than boring the spindles.

[RockYacht]

Originally posted by TerryHowe:
Ya gonna be running open diffs like that? :D

Why the hybrid rear? What are the advantages of the 14 bolt outers on that? Hey Terry how you been? Those diffs aren't open, that's my new stealth locker! graemlins/thefinger.gif Easier to manhandle an empty housing vs. a loaded one. Getting old and those bad boys are heavy... Front gets and ARB, rear gets a spool.

The HyBrid? Because I can. :D Scott, ER and Camp pretty much nailed this one already. IMO, that's the best solution to getting 35 spline shafts in a FF D60. The 14b hubs are shorter than the D60/70 hubs as ER mentioned and they are machineable to 5 on 5.5" or 6 on 5.5".

Bob

[RockYacht]

Originally posted by Chris Overacker:
Nice fab work, lookeen goooood!

? for Ya. The D60 up front, is it a Dodge or Chevy? Have you modified the width of it? Is the drive shaft to TH400 going to be an issue? Thanks Chris.

Answer for ya, Dodge.

Nope, full width; however, I did remove the knuckles to correct the caster/pinion angle. Factory Dodge runs 0* pinion and about 2* caster. It now is 10* up on the pinion and 5* Caster.

Nope. There isn't really clearance issues, that I've run into, with the TH400 and D300. The Tcase has been rotated up so that helps. This one will get a 2 piece front driveline though.

Bob

[RockYacht]

Here's a few updates.

Got the subframe installed this weekend. Chadro, told you I was using Da Benda. :D

http://colorado4x4.org/bobl/projects/subframe1.jpg
http://colorado4x4.org/bobl/projects/subframe2.jpg
http://colorado4x4.org/bobl/projects/subframe3.jpg
http://colorado4x4.org/bobl/projects/subframe4.jpg
http://colorado4x4.org/bobl/projects/subframe5.jpg


Here's the shock hoop covers that had to go in to cover the upper shock hoops.

http://colorado4x4.org/bobl/projects/fendercoverparts1.jpg
http://colorado4x4.org/bobl/projects/fendercoverparts2.jpg
http://colorado4x4.org/bobl/projects/fendercover.jpg
http://colorado4x4.org/bobl/projects/fendercoverinstall.jpg

Now for exhaust work, have toob will travlel. ;)

http://colorado4x4.org/bobl/projects/exhausttubing.jpg

80 series muffler, tweaked.

http://colorado4x4.org/bobl/projects/muffler1.jpg
http://colorado4x4.org/bobl/projects/muffler2.jpg

Muffler hanging in place:

http://colorado4x4.org/bobl/projects/mufflerinstalled1.jpg
http://colorado4x4.org/bobl/projects/mufflerinstalled3.jpg

Axle stuffed:

http://colorado4x4.org/bobl/projects/muffleraxlestuffed.jpg

This weeks project is to get the rest of the exhaust snaked through all the links, springs, crossmembers, etc.

[dave@rokmen]

Bob - I really like the way you setup the Shock mounts by tunnelling the bed.. very nice!!

[Camp]

Looking great Bob!!! You do nice work and the use of Da Benda looks gooooooooood :D

[jeff@rokmen]

Very nice work all around, I really like the rear subframe and how you clearanced the tub for the shocks. Is the rear subframe attached to the original frame anywhere else besides on top of the 1/4 eliptic mounts? Just curious as I will "eventually" tube out the rear of mine. Also the patch panels on the front of the frame, how thick of material did you make those?

great work
78

[RockYacht]

The sub frame is tied into the 1/4 pack mounts and the original frame to bridge those 2 together. The body mount is also tied in. Once I get the axle and links out for prep and paint i can get underneath and finish the tie in to the link crossmember. The rear of the sub frame will be tied into the cage, via a removable mount so the cage can be removed from the tub.

The frame stiffners on the front section are from M.O.R.E.. They fit nice out of the box, but for this app needed a little tweaking. I highly recommend them on a CJ frame, especially with a big block, D60F and fohdeez.

[Pioneer]

Very clean work!!!! Looks good. When do you think you'll have it wrapped up?

[Grandpa Jeep]

Bob,
What kind of muffler is that? I need something like that for mine. You going to be around this weekend? I'm going to be in Cheyenne, and I'd love to stop by.

[SNOWMAN]

Wow. That's some cool stuff there & it's basically exactly what I need to do to my Willys. Still collecting tooling & parts though
:(

I doubt I'll need to clearance my Willys tub like that for shock hoops since I'm goin with Cherokee Chief Widetracks but I've gotta beef it and I've gotta get the exhaust reworked. Also Probably gonna do the back first and run it a bit then do the front later.

[ November 24, 2003, 10:23 AM: Message edited by: SNOWMAN ]

[dmeis]

I like the exhaust creativity. Do you plan on putting something below the tips to pretect them from getting crushed? Wouldnt that rob ground clearance then?

Good work! graemlins/thefinger.gif

[RockYacht]

Pioneer, Was planning to have delivered and play with it over New Years in AZ; however, short of a miracle that won't happen. Probably Late Jan before it's out and about... :(

Oliver, FlowMaster Series 80. Intended for a 'vette app. I'll be home all weekend, well maybe not Sat have a snow run in the works...

Snowman, that's a full width axle under the back...

Dave, No skids for the tips. 1) they will be 36"+ in the air and 2) the rear of the tire will be behind them... :eek: :D


Bob

[SNOWMAN]

Originally posted by Rock Yacht:

Snowman, that's a full width axle under the back... I understand. What I was saying is my Willys tub has to be narrower therebye giving me more clearance in there I'd think. Cool stuff though graemlins/thumbsup.gif

Is that your Jeep?

[TerryHowe]

Originally posted by SNOWMAN:
I understand. What I was saying is my Willys tub has to be narrower therebye giving me more clearance in there I'd think. Cool stuff though graemlins/thumbsup.gif
Willys tub in the back is the same as a CJ-7 as far as the wheel wells width.

Nice work by the way! That and fast. I couldn't bother to do details like the shock covers, but that is a real nice touch.

[SNOWMAN]

Originally posted by TerryHowe:
Willys tub in the back is the same as a CJ-7 as far as the wheel wells width.
Hmmm. Well I've learned something new today then. graemlins/laughing.gif

Never owned one dem der cj7's graemlins/rasta.gif

[Scorpion]

:eek: graemlins/thumbsup.gif

[Geesh]

nice effort, Bob, your craftsmanship is evident; excellent. I especially like the welds, whether it be sheetmetal or tubing ~ very nice ;)

TRO

[Chris Overacker]

There again, nice work. Keep the pics coming. I really enjoy seeing everyones ideas.

Coils sure make it easy to cycle the suspension. I bet your looking forward to getting it dirty.

[Big Country]

Lookin REAL good Bob, keep up the awesome work :eek: graemlins/bounce4.gif

[Big Country]

Sorry, i just noticed i needed to update my profile. Maybe i need to post more often. redface.gif

[RockYacht]

Originally posted by Big Country:
Lookin REAL good Bob, keep up the awesome work :eek: graemlins/bounce4.gif

Sorry, I just noticed i needed to update my profile. Maybe i need to post more often. Welcome back Mark! See you need to check in more often, you never know what you might see on here. Sometimes it's even your own stuff. :D

OBTW, I'll fix your profile for you. graemlins/devil.gif


Bob

[RockYacht]

Well after slacking for the last couple weeks (to much turkey, it make you sleepy you know...) I finally got the exhaust done.

At full droop:
http://colorado4x4.org/bobl/projects/exhaustdroop1.JPG
http://colorado4x4.org/bobl/projects/exhaustdroop2.JPG

At ride height:
http://colorado4x4.org/bobl/projects/exhauststatic1.JPG

And at full compression:
http://colorado4x4.org/bobl/projects/exhauststuffd1.JPG
http://colorado4x4.org/bobl/projects/exhauststuffd2.JPG
http://colorado4x4.org/bobl/projects/exhauststuffd3.JPG

Tomorrow I'll finish the rear suspension and build front shock hoops and bump stop mounts.

[Eagle]

What do you plan to do to the body after all this is done? You going with a new engine too? The rig looks real nice, i'd say a great candidate for bright yellow paint and a V-8 engine.


great job.

[RockYacht]

A V-8 eh? Isn't the 455 Buick that's in it bg ehough? :D

CJ-7
Buick 455/TH400/D300/D60F/Hybrid R/Fohdeez on Dubba-Loks

Bright yellow? Whaddaya think Mark? :eek:

[Cresso]

What, no Pert Plus green? It wouldn't look right! graemlins/thefinger.gif

[Eagle]

didn't see the specs before. i can see the engine on the new post. I love build ups like this, it looks real nice. so, are ya gonna do anything with the body, or just leave it?

[Big Country]

It looks great Bob. Nice job getting those pipes out of the way of the links. Keep up the great work. :D graemlins/beer.gif

Bright Yellow? Don't think so. Not sure what color it will end up. graemlins/laughing.gif

[sw99]

That is some awesome fab work Bob! That thing is looking sooo nice. Thanks for posting the inspirational pics. graemlins/thumbsup.gif