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Keyton
October 12th, 2009, 10:46 PM
Don't be surprised if nationwide ammo shortages return even though this doesn't go into place until 2011.


This weekend, Governor Arnold Schwarzenegger (R) vetoed Senate Bill 585 (http://www.leginfo.ca.gov/cgi-bin/postquery?bill_number=sb_585&sess=CUR&house=B&author=leno) but signed Assembly Bill 962 (http://www.leginfo.ca.gov/pub/09-10/bill/asm/ab_0951-1000/ab_962_bill_20090226_introduced.html) into law.

SB585 would have prohibited the sale of firearms and ammunition on the property or inside the buildings that comprise the Cow Palace in Daly City, just outside of San Francisco. Simply put, SB585 was a stepping-stone to banning gun shows on all publicly-owned property in California.

Unfortunately, the Governor did sign AB962. This bill requires individuals purchasing ammunition be fingerprinted and registered at the time of sale, mandates that dealers keep these records and make them available for inspection by the California Department of Justice. Ammunition retailers would also have to store ammunition in such a manner that it would be inaccessible to purchasers. Finally, mail order ammunition sales are prohibited under AB962. Over twenty years ago, Congress abolished similar requirements because ammunition sales records were found to be useless for solving crimes. AB962 is a dire threat to our Second Amendment rights in the Golden State.


http://www.nraila.org/Legislation/Read.aspx?ID=5171

Loki
October 12th, 2009, 11:07 PM
Welcome to Kalifornia, Comrade.

csutke
October 13th, 2009, 01:38 AM
This is one more reason why im glad that I live in Colorado. What happens when a person who doesnt own a firearm goes to purchase ammo (eg. going shooting at a range that has rentals, shooting a friends firearm, etc..) and then becomes registered in the system. This is so fawking stupid. All gun control is doing is making it harder for law abiding citizens to protect themselves and others.

Yucca-Man
October 13th, 2009, 07:40 AM
Registration is simply another step toward government control over legal ownership of firearms. If they can't outright ban the weapon, they will make ammo purchasing and possession so difficult as to render the weapon useless. Useless to law-abiding citizens, that is.

Jeffro600
October 19th, 2009, 06:24 PM
This is one more reason why im glad that I live in Colorado.

HEH, your states probably next in line...

Colorado is really nothing more than a renamed, landlocked, higher elevation California.

newracer
October 19th, 2009, 11:44 PM
HEH, your states probably next in line...

Colorado is really nothing more than a renamed, landlocked, higher elevation California.

Not even close. Co is not even near what CA was 27 years ago when I left.

Loki
October 20th, 2009, 09:16 AM
HEH, your states probably next in line...

Colorado is really nothing more than a renamed, landlocked, higher elevation California.

Wishful thinking? Cause you're fawked, you want us fawked also?

ZappBranigan
October 20th, 2009, 10:03 AM
Don't be surprised if nationwide ammo shortages return even though this doesn't go into place until 2011.




How could this law lead to nationwide ammo shortages? If anything it seems to me it would lead to a surplus of ammo outside of CA as ammo sellers find it more difficult to sell in CA and sell their wares elsewhere?

Or did you mean it would cause CA shooters to buy up all the ammo they can now before the law goes into effect?

Jeffro600
October 20th, 2009, 12:09 PM
Wishful thinking? Cause you're fawked, you want us fawked also?

Ive got more ammo, lead, reloading consumables and casting equipment stockpiled than half a dozen of us would ever use in our lifetimes...im nowhere near fawked...

ironpiggie
October 20th, 2009, 06:10 PM
Or did you mean it would cause CA shooters to buy up all the ammo they can now before the law goes into effect?

option two..;)

gathering up more stuff to reload now...

Sound_Man
November 15th, 2009, 11:33 PM
Arnie signed this crap.

How long before it happens here?




The NRA and California Rifle & Pistol Association have secured legislative support to sponsor a bill to repeal AB962 ammunition restriction bill. Your support is needed to drive a new bill that will repeal AB962 by signing a petition document. (Link at the bottom of this page.)

AB962 passed earlier this year and was signed by Governor Schwarzenegger. The bill places restrictions on the sale of ammunition, which includes making it illegal to purchase through mail-order firms or on the internet including companies located in California. All sales must be face-to-face, a fingerprint, and filling out of documentation which is maintained on file for five years.

Gun owners in rural locations must now find a licensed ammunition dealer (also a new requirement) and travel long distances simply to purchase ammunition for the hunting season or self-defense. This includes components for reloading ammunition.

The NRA and CRPA have obtained support from Assemblyman Curt Hagman (R), representing Chino Hills. He has authored AB373 which repeals AB962 prior to it taking effect February 2011.

A petition to promote AB373 within the legislature has been drawn up. Gun dealers throughout the state where the petition forms have been located are reporting very strong and positive response. It is not uncommon for moderately sized gun stores to have as many as one hundred customers a day filling out the petition forms. Stores are reporting that gun owners have finally had their fill, and they are angry.

"I think what's happened is that gun owners aren't sitting back anymore," said Roy Whiteaker, owner of Yuba City's Gun & Ammo Outlet as reported in the Appeal-Democrat. He reported 100 gun owners in two days signed up in support of AB373.

AB962 will create a new class of criminal acts. Perfectly legal purchases of ammunition by mail order or over the internet will now become illegal. Those prohibited, such as felons, will now turn to a whole new black market of illegal ammunition sales on the streets creating crime where none previously existed. This bill, as do all gun control laws, do nothing but create more crime, requiring more law enforcement resources to check names on lists of law-abiding citizens. After all, why would a criminal incriminate themselves by purchasing ammo from a licensed ammunition dealer? They won't.

California gun owners are urged to print the document supporting AB373 using the link below, fill out the information and mail it to the NRA address noted on the form. All AB373 support documents will be forwarded to Assemblyman Hagman for presentation to the legislature in order to garner legislative support. Remember, AB962 passed by one vote, so a very strong showing of hundreds-of-thousands of gun owners has the distinct possibility of reversing AB962 before it ever becomes law.

http://www.gunnewsdaily.com/supportab373.pdf


http://www.gunnewsdaily.com/index.php/article-archives/196-the-time-to-repeal-ab962-is-now