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Hippie
July 26th, 2009, 07:18 PM
So - first real trip in the Mini - we left Friday early morning from our place in Aspen Park for Sante Fe - We took the "back" way down through Alamosa.

I can't complain - we rolled on down through BV and turned South. Rk(Bonny) decided to take a nap as we rolled passed Salida :D:D:D We rolled over the pass still under the arrest me now speeds :D Then we hit the 40 miles running on CR 17 down to Alamosa of straight ( I am talking, I did not turn the wheel more than a 1/16 for 40 miles :D )- RK was still sleeping :shrug: so I set the cruise at (um - not admitting to anything - she reads the board) I did not know the CC would hold at those speeds :P A few minutes later we pulled into Alamosa for lunch and I woke her up - She thought she had slept for about 30 minutes:sleep:


yep - you sure did ;)


Anyway - the Mini WORKED. I have not put the cam in yet and we would roll up on cars at 80+, wait for the passing lane, drop a gear, and be pushing 120+ as we went around :pbj:.


At one point I think we took 17 cars in one passing lane :shrug:

scottycards
July 27th, 2009, 09:07 AM
:thumbsup::thumbsup:

;)

Mcstiff
July 27th, 2009, 09:38 AM
Sounds fun. I went to a "vintage" Audi GTG in the hills but not much driving.

Rock Kitty
July 27th, 2009, 03:45 PM
That's the last time I take a nap with Jeffe at the wheel!;)

scottycards
July 27th, 2009, 04:12 PM
Now, Jeff.

You mentioned 40 miles, occassionally hitting 120.

Put it on your calendar. 3rd weekend in April.

120 miles, average speed 120. You think you had fun last weekend? Just wait until April 2010 in Fort Stockton TX, baby.

Rock Kitty
July 28th, 2009, 10:49 AM
Now, Jeff.

You mentioned 40 miles, occassionally hitting 120.

Put it on your calendar. 3rd weekend in April.

120 miles, average speed 120. You think you had fun last weekend? Just wait until April 2010 in Fort Stockton TX, baby.

:popcorn:

Snake
July 28th, 2009, 11:10 AM
Yah, some reason those Jap's cut everything off at 100....

http://i213.photobucket.com/albums/cc176/cjake39/STI/DSC00149.jpg

But they turn on the governer at 159mph?

Mcstiff
July 28th, 2009, 11:19 AM
Yah, some reason those Jap's cut everything off at 100....
But they turn on the governer at 159mph?

:shrug:Cars go.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v88/EHankin/OOOO/5f3adb74-1.jpg
Conducted on a closed course

Steve
July 28th, 2009, 11:22 AM
I've really wanted to take a pic of the Mustang's speedo at 140 or Scotty's Vette's speedo at 186, but in both cases I've been a bit too busy to attempt it. ;)

Snake
July 28th, 2009, 11:32 AM
:shrug:Cars go.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v88/EHankin/OOOO/5f3adb74-1.jpg
Conducted on a closed course

Dang.... Germans got it right...

Mcstiff
July 28th, 2009, 11:42 AM
I've really wanted to take a pic of the Mustang's speedo at 140 or Scotty's Vette's speedo at 186, but in both cases I've been a bit too busy to attempt it. ;)

Yeah, big difference between 105 and 140+ (not that 105 is safe).

Camp
July 28th, 2009, 01:06 PM
You guys drive on way to many straight roads if you have time to take pictures like that :tisk:




:flipoff2: :evil:

Mcstiff
July 28th, 2009, 01:38 PM
Conducted on a closed course

:flipoff2:

Snake
July 28th, 2009, 02:13 PM
That was at the Pueblo track... I'd take a pic of my Yota's speedo, but it's no longer working....
http://i213.photobucket.com/albums/cc176/cjake39/4x4s/Indy71908/DSC01055.jpg

Does this work :)

scottycards
July 28th, 2009, 03:17 PM
The proper way to document your speed.......:flipoff2:

http://i165.photobucket.com/albums/u47/scottycards/gpsat191.jpg

Camp
July 28th, 2009, 03:34 PM
Geesh, I really need to find another gear for my car :D I'm long out of RPM before I approach the 2's.....

scottycards
July 28th, 2009, 04:31 PM
Geesh, I really need to find another gear for my car :D I'm long out of RPM before I approach the 2's.....

As long as gear is your only problem, you're in good shape.

Few realize the HP it takes to run high mph numbers. The curve gets super steep above about 185.

My guess is 100hp more from 185 to 195, another 125-150 for 195 to 205, etc.

C6 pulls 186, Z06 pulls 195, ZR1 pulls 205, so that sounds about right, with 400, 505, and 620hp respectively.

A Ford GT is good to ~205 (IIRC) in stock form, around 550hp(?) [redcj will correct me here if I'm wrong, I'm sure], but it's one heck of a slippery, low profile vehicle.

Hippie
July 28th, 2009, 04:37 PM
You guys are nuts taking pics of the speedo at those speeds - closed course or not :flipoff2:

Steve
July 28th, 2009, 04:38 PM
As long as gear is your only problem, you're in good shape.

Few realize the HP it takes to run high mph numbers. The curve gets super steep above about 185.

Truth. I could run 140 in the Mustang in 4th gear no problem running ~4500 RPM. I suspect though that if I hit 5th gear it would top out between 160 and 170, not due to lack of gear but lack of sufficient HP to push it through the air any faster.

If I took it to the dealer for the Roush supercharger install... :evil:

:D

Mcstiff
July 28th, 2009, 10:24 PM
You guys are nuts taking pics of the speedo at those speeds - closed course or not :flipoff2:

:innocent: not something I condone but at that place and time I could not help myself. Strangely I am not sure if my EMS can log MPH, that would be better.

:edit: No such luck

scottycards
July 29th, 2009, 05:36 AM
You guys need taller gearz........HA!

2600 at 125.........

http://i165.photobucket.com/albums/u47/scottycards/PA050001.jpg

scottycards
July 29th, 2009, 05:46 AM
Or you can let the rental car trip computer do it for you.........

http://i165.photobucket.com/albums/u47/scottycards/P6090122.jpg

The low average was because the POS would only pull about 109......:D:D:D

http://i165.photobucket.com/albums/u47/scottycards/P6090121.jpg

scottycards
July 29th, 2009, 05:51 AM
Or have someone measure your speed for you.......

http://i165.photobucket.com/albums/u47/scottycards/P6090127.jpg

scottycards
July 29th, 2009, 05:55 AM
You guys are nuts taking pics of the speedo at those speeds - closed course or not :flipoff2:


:innocent: not something I condone

I condone "nuts". :flipoff2:

What's really nuts, and the best story I've heard is one from my friend Todd that I used to nav for in unlimited. He had a rental Caddy and entered in the 110 class. Well, the thing was governed at 115, but if you hit 115, it would cut spark until you were down to about 108 before it would accelerate again. Clearly not enough to average 110.

So he figured out that if you hit 115, then turned the ignition off and back on quickly, the speed would only dip to 112 and go back to 115.

During his 60 mile leg at Big Bend, he said that he turned the car off and on a couple of hundred times to maintain his 110 average.

It worked. He said it got a little exciting with the steering lock and whatnot in some of the turns..........

Camp
July 29th, 2009, 07:21 AM
As long as gear is your only problem, you're in good shape.

Few realize the HP it takes to run high mph numbers. The curve gets super steep above about 185.

My guess is 100hp more from 185 to 195, another 125-150 for 195 to 205, etc.

C6 pulls 186, Z06 pulls 195, ZR1 pulls 205, so that sounds about right, with 400, 505, and 620hp respectively.

A Ford GT is good to ~205 (IIRC) in stock form, around 550hp(?) [redcj will correct me here if I'm wrong, I'm sure], but it's one heck of a slippery, low profile vehicle.

I actually haven't had my car flat out anywhere yet as I don't need a night in jail, a trip to the impound, and a huge spike in my insurance. I haven't had it on the track yet. Maybe in the next couple of weeks after I do the brakes on it and rotate the rubber again to get out to HPR :D I don't think, even with another gear, I have enough to pull more than about 165 or 170 with it. I've owned cars that pull harder up top but, nothing that gets to 100 as quick as this car. Currently I think it is gear limited to somewhere in the 155 to 160 range.

scottycards
July 29th, 2009, 09:52 AM
Ethical and moral judgments regarding driving should probably be taken to Chit Chat.

Let's keep it friendly here in Checkered Flag, please. :thumbsup::thumbsup:

If you don't have something nice to say, it can either remain unsaid, or taken to PM.

Thanks!!!

Steve
July 29th, 2009, 10:47 AM
Let me expand a bit on what Scottycards posted. When he said to take it to Chit Chat, he did not mean to cut & paste a post from here to make a personal attack on a member. That's not allowed regardless of the forum. If someone would like to start a thread here or in Chit Chat to discuss the pros and cons of various types of on-road driving, that's fine. Taking pot shots at an individual member isn't. Ever.

:beer:

Hippie
July 29th, 2009, 05:28 PM
Scotty - we all know your nuts already :flipoff2:

BTW someone PM me with what I missed :shrug: - I guess someone took issue with me/us discussing alleged illegal speeds on public roads :D

Oscar
July 29th, 2009, 05:48 PM
I take it none of you have lost a brother to somebody speeding on a public road. I have not something I would do even if I could.

Camp
July 29th, 2009, 06:34 PM
I take it none of you have lost a brother to somebody speeding on a public road. I have not something I would do even if I could.


Not to be an ass but, I killed three of my friends, driving the speed limit. I still drive the speed limit most of the time.

Mcstiff
July 29th, 2009, 08:14 PM
I have lost family and friends to many things on and off the road.

Hippie
July 30th, 2009, 05:43 AM
For the PETA contingent - no animals (including humans) where harmed in the making of this trip report ( unless you coount the numerous bugs on the windshield & grill but they died a relatively painless death do to the split second terminal event that caused there demise.) :flipoff2:


Sereiously though:

If I worried about everything that could hurt me, my family, or other people I would have to curl up in a ball and die in a dark cave somewhere :shrug: probably due to oxygen starvation since the air we breath probably causes cancer

I prefer to enjoy life :beer:

_CJ
July 30th, 2009, 08:35 AM
For the PETA contingent - no animals (including humans) where harmed in the making of this trip report ( unless you coount the numerous bugs on the windshield & grill but they died a relatively painless death do to the split second terminal event that caused there demise.) :flipoff2:


Sereiously though:

If I worried about everything that could hurt me, my family, or other people I would have to curl up in a ball and die in a dark cave somewhere :shrug: probably due to oxygen starvation since the air we breath probably causes cancer

I prefer to enjoy life :beer:

UN-subscribing from this thread........:rolleyes:

Steve
July 30th, 2009, 08:50 AM
UN-subscribing from this thread........:rolleyes:

:thumbsup:

Don't let the thread pixies ruin your life. ;)

Oscar
July 30th, 2009, 08:55 AM
Not to be an ass but, I killed three of my friends, driving the speed limit. I still drive the speed limit most of the time.
Your not at all we called it risk management in the AF. Does the risk of the action equal the possiible out come and is the risk worth the possible out come if it is take the risk if not reduce the risk. Accidents happen all the time thats life but if you can reduce the risk you can reduce the chance of an accident.

Steve
July 30th, 2009, 09:00 AM
Your not at all we called it risk management in the AF. Does the risk of the action equal the possiible out come and is the risk worth the possible out come if it is take the risk if not reduce the risk. Accidents happen all the time thats life but if you can reduce the risk you can reduce the chance of an accident.

I am VERY familiar with risk-benefit analyses. If we did one for any hobby we have - except for knitting or something similar- we'd have no hobbies. We certainly wouldn't do any kind of wheeling. Nor would we ride motorcycles anywhere ever, ride bikes on city streets, drive small cars, snow ski, hike, etc, etc, etc. If we did it for typical driving, we'd all be wearing helmets and going 30 mph in the right lane in interstates.

:shrug:

Mcstiff
July 30th, 2009, 09:07 AM
UN-subscribing from this thread........:rolleyes:

Have a great day!

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v88/EHankin/800px-MONTANA-PRsvg.png
:drool::drool::drool:

scottycards
July 30th, 2009, 09:18 AM
I love "reasonable and prudent", for the purposes of speed limits.

Wide open highway, (Y) rated tires, dry conditions, reasonable and prudent = a good thing.

We need an American Autobahn.

http://i165.photobucket.com/albums/u47/scottycards/10473detail.jpg

Mcstiff
July 30th, 2009, 09:25 AM
http://i165.photobucket.com/albums/u47/scottycards/10473detail.jpg

Yes please!

Camp
July 30th, 2009, 10:28 AM
I If we did it for typical driving, we'd all be wearing helmets and going 30 mph in the right lane in interstates.


In many states, you get a ticket for going less than 45 mph on the interstate so, get out of my way! :flipoff2: