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Tiffany
March 4th, 2009, 11:36 AM
I am oddly booking a lot of shoots right now...mostly modeling or sports/events. I am about to send out a promotion deal to some of the clubs I worked with last summer (and many I did not) to get on board for this summer. Meaning I will probably be shooting a lot of scantily clad women in studio/outside, dark clubs and sports.

Knowing these facts...D700 or 5DMKII?

I am thinking that video is falling a few notches in the equation, but would be killer in a club setting with a guest DJ spinning to do some 1-2 minute clips.

Thoughts?

ColoradoSkier
March 4th, 2009, 11:42 AM
The great results at high iso on Nikon have me looking at them instead of Canon. But you are pretty invested in Canon glass, where I am not.

Tiffany
March 4th, 2009, 11:47 AM
The 5DII is no slouch in the high iso dept either. The AF system of the Nikon kicks Canons ass all day long, but the HD video of the Canon has a good bit of appeal to me now.

I am very much torn on this decision right now...

Jeffro600
March 4th, 2009, 11:59 AM
Youve already got some good Canon glass dont you Tiffany? If so, id just stick with Canon. Hence the reason why i havent transitioned back to Nikon...WAYYY too much invested in my glass.

BUT, if you didnt, i would go with the D700, with a grip, without a question. The higher frame rate will let it double as a kick ass fast action camera where as the MKII wont even pull off 4 FPS. Alot say that you dont need a shutter that fast but i beg to differ...its great for sports, racing action or just sometimes where you have to do the "spray and pray" technique to get the best shots. I know i would rather have the ability than to wish i did...

thenimirra
March 4th, 2009, 01:22 PM
I would stick to Canon if you have a ton of glass invested in, which I think you do, don't you?

But if you really want the D700 just be prepared for the fact that you won't have alot of options for shooting until you get more glass, so get a good lens that will last you for a while until you have money to buy more.

Tiffany
March 4th, 2009, 01:43 PM
I would be buying some lenses at the same time if I go to the Nikon side. Have too many booked and deposit paid shoots to have to be hampered because of a lens.

I have some very good glass, but have yet to invest in the Canon "L" glass. Been fortunate enough to be able to pick up some very sharp crisp non-Canon glass...luck I guess. I know how much I can sell each of my lenses for and know that they would move fairly quickly as good copies are hard to come by (I know, it took me a while to find these).

Jeffro do you have any good forums/sites to research Nikon shiz...besides nikonians which is now charging even to see the forums...:rolleyes:

Jeffro600
March 4th, 2009, 02:17 PM
Not too many Nikon specific forums out there...

DPreview and its associated forums would probably be your best bet for straight research but its a pain in the ass to navigate through threads.

Tiffany
March 4th, 2009, 04:42 PM
Used D700, 1300 actuations, $2100. Tempting...oh so tempting.

ColoradoSkier
March 6th, 2009, 08:00 AM
Saw your Tweet. Try Mikes. When I bought my Oly, it took a few minutes and a manager, but they matched the price I was getting from B&H.

B&H has it for $3300 with a 24-120 VR (http://tinyurl.com/d7ejrz) or $2699 body only (http://tinyurl.com/dj56wn).

Tiffany
March 6th, 2009, 01:59 PM
I can get the kit from Costco.com for $2949 (or $2999...can't remember)

They used to have body only for $2249...I would already have it if they still had that going. Thinking picking up the used one is a good deal. Pics look brand new and the seller has a ton of positive feedback on high ticket items on a couple of forums I am on already.

Jeffro600
March 6th, 2009, 02:03 PM
Nothin wrong with a used one and it will save you well over 1000 bucks after tax on the new one. Thats a 1000 bucks you could put towards a nice "gold ring"(Nikons equivalent of Canons L series) lens.

I really really do wish Canon would come out with a full frame, high FPS camera for an "obtainable" price. 1DMKIIIs are nice...but not for $7000+ :rolleyes: Especially when a sub 3000 dollar Nikon camera will do everything it will and more in some aspects(except for having 20 some-odd MP's of resolution...)

Tiffany
March 6th, 2009, 02:44 PM
Used D700 is bought. Should be here early next week. The feature set of the Nikon simply outweighed the 5DMKII for me due to what I shoot. Sports are doable with it, but baseball parents love to see a full series pitch (I know I sold a ton of those images last summer). And shooting DJs in a dark club, the smidge of lower noise that Nikon has over Canon is more impressive than video that I am sure after a month I would never use.

21-mp is nice, but not really needed unless you are hardcore pixel peeping.

And saving about $800 over a brand new one (shipping and all) is a nice addition. That will pay for a decent lens to get me going.

I think the switch, while a bit more costly than just buying the Canon, will be well worth it.

ColoradoSkier
March 6th, 2009, 02:49 PM
Yes, full sequence of pitching could be a huge seller. Let me know when you shoot one, I want to see the results. I think with my Oly I get 3-4 pictures out of the whole sequence.

Jeffro600
March 6th, 2009, 02:50 PM
Sweet! Im jealous! Get the grip for it cuz it bumps the FPS to 8! :drool: Got any cool Canon crap you wanna sell??

Tiffany
March 6th, 2009, 02:57 PM
For the moment I am going to keep the Canon stuff until I am sure that this is the right move for me...you never know.

Jeff can you suggest some decent lenses to look at? I am thinking I will pick up the Sigma 70-200 2.8 and see how that works. And either the Nikkor or Sigma 50 1.4.

Jeffro600
March 6th, 2009, 03:13 PM
Jeff can you suggest some decent lenses to look at? I am thinking I will pick up the Sigma 70-200 2.8 and see how that works. And either the Nikkor or Sigma 50 1.4.

ACK! Mine, while good at first glance, turned out to be a total pile of crap. I wont touch Sigma lenses again with a 10 foot pole for that and other reasons too... You can get Nikons 80-200 2.8 for a tad more and its worlds better.

As for Nikkors...take a look at:

24-70mm 2.8, 14-24mm 2.8, 80-200mm 2.8...any of their primes are very good too!

Tiffany
March 6th, 2009, 03:24 PM
Like this: http://denver.craigslist.org/pho/1062500973.html

Jeffro600
March 6th, 2009, 03:27 PM
Like this: http://denver.craigslist.org/pho/1062500973.html

Yup...thats a good deal

ColoradoSkier
March 6th, 2009, 03:36 PM
My Sigma has been very reliable. In reading reviews all over, it seems like a crap shoot...

Jeffro600
March 6th, 2009, 03:38 PM
In reading reviews all over, it seems like a crap shoot...

It is...if you can get a good one, their usually awesome lenses. But getting a good one seems to be harder and harder these days...theres even a few reputable lens renters out there that wont rent them out anymore due to their failure rate.

Tiffany
March 6th, 2009, 03:46 PM
Yeah my 70-200 for my 40D is ridiculous sharp...got lucky but looked for a long while for a good copy.

Not sure I want to play that game again.

Jeffro600
March 6th, 2009, 07:49 PM
Not sure I want to play that game again.

Dont blame ya!

But i have a feeling, all your Canon stuff will be up for sale purty quick!

Tiffany
March 7th, 2009, 11:55 PM
I am sure you are right Jeff. I should have the D700 by Wednesday, will probably pick up a lens before it gets here...and already have studio time booked for next weekend to play with the new toy.

Already looking at resell pricing for the Canon gear.

Tiffany
March 11th, 2009, 12:45 PM
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3579/3346772689_e8c5cb4245.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/dyno223/3346772689/)

It's so purty!!!! :D

Suki
March 11th, 2009, 01:43 PM
my, your package is huge!


lol

Jeffro600
March 11th, 2009, 02:06 PM
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3579/3346772689_e8c5cb4245.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/dyno223/3346772689/)

It's so purty!!!! :D

:flipoff2:

SBIUnlimited
March 14th, 2009, 09:07 AM
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3579/3346772689_e8c5cb4245.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/dyno223/3346772689/)

It's so purty!!!! :D

Is there a camera in there.........?? :D

AMMOtj
March 14th, 2009, 09:46 AM
I think she's trying to figure out how to take picture of the camera using the camera....

Jeffro600
March 14th, 2009, 09:49 AM
I think she's trying to figure out how to take picture of the camera using the camera....

Not having that little creative knob on the side of the camera with all the preset settings might be a struggle... :lmao:

:flipoff2:

Jeffro600
March 20th, 2009, 01:12 PM
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3579/3346772689_e8c5cb4245.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/dyno223/3346772689/)

It's so purty!!!! :D

9 days and no "new camera" report?!? Sheesh... :flipoff2:

Tiffany
March 20th, 2009, 09:40 PM
My grandmother is in ICU and that is where I have been. No real desire to pick up any camera right now. Maybe next week.

rokcrwlrtj
March 20th, 2009, 10:17 PM
Youll like it.

My buddy shoots for crawl mag with his and did a good bit of university newspaper work with it as well.

Jeffro600
March 20th, 2009, 10:26 PM
My grandmother is in ICU and that is where I have been. No real desire to pick up any camera right now. Maybe next week.

Sorry to hear that Tiffany...hope all is well

Tiffany
March 21st, 2009, 05:40 PM
My grandma passed away this morning. :(

ColoradoSkier
March 22nd, 2009, 08:30 AM
Sorry to hear that.

Suki
March 22nd, 2009, 08:25 PM
ahh man Tiffany, i'm so sorry to see this. :( May she rest in peace and live forever in your hearts.

Tiffany
March 22nd, 2009, 09:35 PM
I'm very lost right now. We are an extremely close knit family with many generations tightly held together. My kids lost their great grandmother who was just as close and near to them as their grandma who lives with us.

A lot of pain right now...The anniversary of Tony's death is coming up so we have all been on dge because of that. This just ripped open our hearts again...or maybe ripped them open more because they damn sure weren't healed.

I knew I was not dealing well when I decided to tear about the car today with no real plan or focus and ended up with a mess of wires, cables and glass and nothing fixed. Then just sat out on the deck with the dogs. My grandma's dog is quickly becoming the leader of the pack as the boy pups are rather intimidated by her.

Tired, sad and not feeling real photograph-y right now...