Question about a Traffic Ticket

[Suki]

Soooo a "friend" of mine got a ticket yesterday and noticed that the address on the ticket for where the incident occured is not the actual location, does that void a ticket or no? lol

It was a speeding ticket, not an accident or anything else.

TIA :D

[Dave McDonald]

IB Don't speed

IB Pay it

IB this will not end well

[mkbruin]

If I had to guess, I would say that it does not 'void' the ticket; however, if you feel like taking it to trial you can win.

'On the date specified, I was not present at this address.'

If you catch a DA on a good day he might toss it though.

[CLYDE]

is it the adress where the cop was when he radared the speeding?? If the addy is within a few blocks, I would say, just go pay it.

[shunt]

If it was me, I'd high tail it to mexico....Change my name and start a new life...

Screw Da' man and his "laws".....






:D

[Jeffro600]

is it the adress where the cop was when he radared the speeding?? If the addy is within a few blocks, I would say, just go pay it.

X2...i got clocked at 63 in a 45 one time and didnt get pulled over till almost 4 miles later(but it was still written for where i was speeding at the time i was caught). I guess he was doing the limit trying to catch up?? :shrug:

Tell you "friend" to just pay it and get over it...

[Swat]

Pay it.

A recent infraction I got, errr friend got would have had me taking time off work and paying court costs if I lost.

[Snotty]

Tell your "friend" to just go in and have it knocked down. Pay the fine, thank the courts for their fine work and have a nice day.

What do I win?

[gumcrew2]

My dad got one that said the location he was at was xxx and the was really xx which was out side the school zone.

Took pictures, went to court, got dropped

[Dave McDonald]

Tell your "friend" to just go in and have it knocked down. Pay the fine, thank the courts for their fine work and have a nice day.

What do I win?

The title of 'Captain Obvious'?

[Suki]

Well I, errr, she figured she'd give it a shot and see. lol!

I usually just pay them via mail, haven't had one in years and never really paid attention to it other than the amount and where to send it to. I looked at it yesterday and saw that it said I was pulled over on Hampden, when I was on Quincy so I figured what the hell maybe it voids or something, lol!

It says on the back that if you're eligible for a lesser fine/pts then they will send you something in the mail in two weeks, is that essentially the same deal that the DA would give you if you go in on the court date?

[Suki]

is it the adress where the cop was when he radared the speeding?? If the addy is within a few blocks, I would say, just go pay it.

It's on a totally different street. When I drove by there again later that day I checked all the street signs within a couple blocks of where I was radared, where the cop was and where I pulled over at and none of them are what's on the ticket.


I'll just wait a couple weeks and see if I get the lower pt/fine thing in the mail. Didn't even realize I was going that fast, sure as hell didn't feel like it, I thought maaaaybe 5-10 over, but it was 16 over. sigh...

[scottycards]

Mistake- they're going to ding you for full fine and points when you show up. Judges and DA's often don't take kindly to their time being wasted by people trying to get off on weak technicalities.

Save them their time, and your money, and mail it in.

You were speeding, they're offering you a deal. Take it, and be done with it.

Good luck.

[CapnCrunch]

Is there any proof that you were on a different street? Not sure you'd be able to contest it unless you had any.

Are the speed limits different between the two? :shrug: Who knows...if the SL is a little higher on Hampden, you might be able to say "it wasn't 16 over, it was 6 over" and maybe get it knocked down. :D

Regardless, if it were me, I'd just pay it and watch my speed next time if I knew I was in the wrong.

[Oscar]

should a pulled I am pregnent card and was sick

[Suki]

lmao! he was a nice cop and asked if I had any questions, I asked "May I please just have a warning instead??" and he laughed and said no but it's a good question. lol.

I don't think there is a difference between the SL's on Hampden and Quincy but maybe i'll check it out.

[gumcrew2]

Quincy 35
Hampden 40

well, depends on where you were, that's at like quebecish

[salsashark]

Quincy 35
Hampden 40

well, depends on where you were, that's at like quebecish


Out on the vast plains of A-town, Hampden and Quincy are both 40

[Suki]

DOH!!!!

are points put back on your license at the end of the year or is it year from each offense?

Anyone know how soon the insurance people get wind of tickets? I just got my renewal ppwk in the mail, not the actual bill but just the declaration (i think that's what it's called), so maybe they wont catch it?? :D

[Oscar]

year to year its what 3 years for points to come back. Don't ask don't tell

[CapnCrunch]

If you haven't had one in years, you should be able to take a safe driving course and have it not count toward your insurance. Hell, I dunno...been a while since I'd had a ticket, but I know they used to do that.

[longboy]

It also may depend on your insurance company. Some might pull yearly drivers reports, some may do random sampling of their policy-holders.

I had switched to Allstate in college, about 1 month after I received a speeding ticket. The agent asked if I had any tickets, to which I told him that I did have one recent ticket. He went ahead and typed up my policy, but the ticket wasn't on my record at that point so he couldn't charge me for it. He told me that Allstate's policy (at the time, mid-90's) was to just randomly sample driving records. I was lucky and that ticket never showed up to Allstate, as they never pulled my records :)

[Suki]

well.... lol, i hadn't had any in years ( I think about 5 or 6 years) and then I got one in November and then this one. But the one in november this lady came out of the parking lot, cut me off, I swerved into another lane, sped up to pass her and i got nailed for speeding... in a school zone none the less. Which, technically I was speeding, but there was a damn good reason for it! lol

[CapnCrunch]

By the way, you don't mention anything to your insurance company until after it's settled with the court. If you should get lucky and get it knocked down to the level of a fix-it ticket, it would have no impact on your insurance. Now that I remember it, that's exactly what happened with me several years ago on my last ticket, and mine was for 16 over (71 in a 55). Because my record had NO tickets on it, the judge knocked it way down.

[Suki]

well it sounds like I just have to wait and see if they knock it down lower and if my insurance decides to check my record.

Thanks everyone for the info. :)

[TheUltimateG]

I would bring up the fact that the officer says the SL is 35, when in fact it is 40 on HAMPDEN. Go down Hampden and take a pic of a speed limit sign on the particular block (ie. 8600 block) you were sighted on. Go the distance in court if you can afford the day off. If you can get the officer to admit he made a mistake either in regards to the SL or location then you may just get off. I would imagine that changing his original statement (notes on ticket) would show incompetence on his part whereby leaving "reasonable doubt" as to if he can even competently operate his radar based on the fact he cant even tell where the hell he is or what the correct SL is at the location in question.
You also may want to ask TheJudge, but I would think that changing his original statement without realizing he made the mistake may be considered perjury.

[CapnCrunch]

Oh, forgot to add...slow the fawk down!

[TheUltimateG]

post a pic of the tic
block out the personal info.

Make sure to go to http://www.ratemycop.com/ and rate your experience with the officer.

[Suki]

I would bring up the fact that the officer says the SL is 35, when in fact it is 40 on HAMPDEN.

The officer didn't say it was 35, he said it was 40 and I was clocked doing 56 (doh!). Another member said it is 35 on Quincy and 40 on Hampden but that was over by Quebec.

Today I double checked the SL on Quincy and it is in fact 40.

Oh, and CapnCrunch... I KNOW!!! lol, i need to have my right foot removed. It really didn't feel like i was going that fast, i definitely wasn't passing the other two cars in the other two lanes, lol!

[TheUltimateG]

The officer didn't say it was 35, he said it was 40 and I was clocked doing 56 (doh!). Another member said it is 35 on Quincy and 40 on Hampden but that was over by Quebec.

Today I double checked the SL on Quincy and it is in fact 40.

In that case, pay the ticket

[stewp97]

Anyone know how soon the insurance people get wind of tickets? I just got my renewal ppwk in the mail, not the actual bill but just the declaration (i think that's what it's called), so maybe they wont catch it?? :D

My insurance agent told me the first ticket is free. After the first ticket the rate goes up until it clears the records, three years after the ticket. That was with Allied.

peter

[Leon Phelps]

The officer didn't say it was 35, he said it was 40 and I was clocked doing 56 (doh!). Another member said it is 35 on Quincy and 40 on Hampden but that was over by Quebec.

Today I double checked the SL on Quincy and it is in fact 40.

Oh, and CapnCrunch... I KNOW!!! lol, i need to have my right foot removed. It really didn't feel like i was going that fast, i definitely wasn't passing the other two cars in the other two lanes, lol!

You got clocked doing 56, pay the ticket. Eat the hike in insurance rates since it's 16 over. Most know I drive like a bat out of hell here on the board, but I don't bitch about being stopped and try to beat the ticket.

Go figure :shrug:

[CapnCrunch]

Oh, and CapnCrunch... I KNOW!!! lol, i need to have my right foot removed. It really didn't feel like i was going that fast, i definitely wasn't passing the other two cars in the other two lanes, lol!

Okay, just so you know. :D :beer:

[Suki]

You got clocked doing 56, pay the ticket. Eat the hike in insurance rates since it's 16 over. Most know I drive like a bat out of hell here on the board, but I don't bitch about being stopped and try to beat the ticket.

Go figure :shrug:

Oh well see sweet cheeks I wasn't bitching at all, just asking a simple question. Once it was answered, I said I was just going to pay it. Try and keep up with the grown folk, mkay??? :flipoff2: lol

[DaJudge]

...I said I was just going to pay it.
PM me b4 you do that.

[Speedwagon]

So, if the officer didn't know what street he was on, how do you know he was properly operating his radar device, and properly read it at 56? Do YOU know you were going 56? You stated you thought you were 5-10 over, correct? They are human too, and can make mistakes. So it is possible he just screwed it all up, and you weren't speeding 16 over.

Oh, and CapnCrunch... I KNOW!!! lol, i need to have my right foot removed. It really didn't feel like i was going that fast, i definitely wasn't passing the other two cars in the other two lanes, lol!

This doesn't sound like a person that believes they were going 16 over. But I like how everyone else automatically assumes the officer is correct, and it telling you to take it up the butt. He may be correct, but you don't sound sure he is.

[Willy36]

Off topic, but how is it that cops think they make the road safer when they see someone go by over the limit, and start going even faster to go give them a ticket? :shrug:

Do they think that they can handle say, 75 in a 45, but your average driver can't handle 55 in a 45?

EDIT: Before anyone even thinks it, I have never got a ticket for anything, so this is not bitterness or anything like that.

[Suki]

I don't really know the answer to your question but i *think* that in those situations they're not supposed to pursue under a high rate of speed. I think it was a few years ago that they made it so that high speed pursuits were frowned on, something like that.

[Commander]

Off topic, but how is it that cops think they make the road safer when they see someone go by over the limit, and start going even faster to go give them a ticket? :shrug:

Do they think that they can handle say, 75 in a 45, but your average driver can't handle 55 in a 45?

EDIT: Before anyone even thinks it, I have never got a ticket for anything, so this is not bitterness or anything like that.


Might have something to do with the flashing lights and siren that they use to warn others to get out of their way. :idea: Your average speeder doesn't have those. Imagine how safe driving would be if there was no enforcement of the traffic laws, and then ask if pursuit to give a ticket is worth it. Also keep in mind that most people don't try to run when they get pulled over.

For the record, yes I have received a few tickets and deserved most of them.

[Leon Phelps]

Oh well see sweet cheeks I wasn't bitching at all, just asking a simple question. Once it was answered, I said I was just going to pay it. Try and keep up with the grown folk, mkay??? :flipoff2: lol

I'm old and it's hot as work, let me be :flipoff2:

[ColoradoXJ]

X2...i got clocked at 63 in a 45 one time and didnt get pulled over till almost 4 miles later(but it was still written for where i was speeding at the time i was caught). I guess he was doing the limit trying to catch up?? :shrug:

Tell you "friend" to just pay it and get over it...

i had a friend get clocked at 115 on i-70 eastbound, and a CSP going west flipped around and caught him... 25 miles down the highway. he's an idiot though...

Off topic, but how is it that cops think they make the road safer when they see someone go by over the limit, and start going even faster to go give them a ticket? :shrug:

Do they think that they can handle say, 75 in a 45, but your average driver can't handle 55 in a 45?

EDIT: Before anyone even thinks it, I have never got a ticket for anything, so this is not bitterness or anything like that.

gee... i donno. maybe the training and cars that are built to handle at speed? :flipoff2: speaking from the experience of doing a ride-along and going well over 100mph through the main streets of highlands ranch, i can say that i trust a cop to do that kind of speed WAY more than i trust a normal driver. :thumbsup:

[Yucca-Man]

Off topic, but how is it that cops think they make the road safer when they see someone go by over the limit, and start going even faster to go give them a ticket? :shrug:

Do they think that they can handle say, 75 in a 45, but your average driver can't handle 55 in a 45?The average driver also doesn't have wig-wags, siren, and strobes to alert the other average drivers who are supposed to pay attention to those things. The officer also has a radio and a map-geek like me on the other end to help his buddies arrange a meeting with the 'average' driver who is speeding.

Most officers also have far more training in how to control their vehicle than 99% of the civilians out there.

Edit: Dangit - didn't see the similar responses above. Good thing y'all were thinking right. ;)

[ColoradoXJ]

The average driver also doesn't have wig-wags, siren, and strobes to alert the other average drivers who are supposed to pay attention to those things. The officer also has a radio and a map-geek like me on the other end to help his buddies arrange a meeting with the 'average' driver who is speeding.

Most officers also have far more training in how to control their vehicle than 99% of the civilians out there.

Edit: Dangit - didn't see the similar responses above. Good thing y'all were thinking right. ;)

you're too slow. :flipoff2:

busy day at the 'office'?

[Yucca-Man]

Weekend.

We're back to 4 10s, which is nice finally. 12 on, 12 off was killing me on the workdays. No time for anything but sleep and work. The extra two hours in the weekday is real nice.

[ColoradoXJ]

yeah, you gotta love 10's.


anyway, back on subject :P

[Willy36]

Okay I shoulda been more clear... I perfectly understand if they do it to catch someone really causing a problem by excessive speeding or whatever.... But when someone is going 5 over the speed limit, they don't cause a very big risk (at least not relative to if they were going the speed limit), but a cop going 40 over to catch him poses a huge risk, not necessarily because the PC or the officer can't handle it, but because he still has to count on your average idiot driver to get out of his way. It's not like civilian drivers are the most attentive......