paranormal state/ A haunting

[Gags]

Anybody see these shows?

Has anyone ever experienced anything real? Seems like a lot of stories with some unexplainable things.

[Mojo_Risin]

Not a haunting but... My wife I saw a "ufo" - if you can call it that - in mexico on our honeymoon. It was a light that was under the water and moved super fast across the ocean. We never could explain it.

John

[potter]

i think those shows are fake. people put too much credit into what is actually "entertainment".

[TONIC]

I have a ghost in my house it likes to knock on the wood floors outside my bedroom door. ANd my daughter who is 3 talks about some kid all the time. Its kind of scary but it has not hurt anyone. So I can live with it.

[formatt]

So I can live with it.

WHAT!? :eek:

[Gags]

i think those shows are fake. people put too much credit into what is actually "entertainment".

Normally, I would be totally on board with your take...But, some of the stuff...

[Oscar]

I totally believe in the ghosty thing lived in a house in Olathe that had one.

[TONIC]

WHAT!? :eek:

yes, I figured it has not hurt anyone so to keep my self from not freaking out I say I can live with it. It also like to make my daughters toys go off and make sounds when no one has touched them in weeks. FREAKY!!!

[MinesJeep]

My fiancee, strongly believes in ghosts and loves the show TAPS on Sci-fi. They come off as somewhat credible since they do disprove supposed paranormal stuff moreoften than they leave you with with paranormal evidence. Some of the stuff is def creapy and makes you wonder is it just staged. Such as the episode I believe last week where they sat a flashlight on the ground and it turned itself on after being asked to turn it on. Makes you go no freaking way.

[Oscar]

My fiancee, strongly believes in ghosts and loves the show TAPS on Sci-fi. They come off as somewhat credible since they do disprove supposed paranormal stuff moreoften than they leave you with with paranormal evidence. Some of the stuff is def creapy and makes you wonder is it just staged. Such as the episode I believe last week where they sat a flashlight on the ground and it turned itself on after being asked to turn it on. Makes you go no freaking way.
Yea I saw that one.... When that happened I would put an Olympic sprinter to shame.

[MinesJeep]

Yeah, there's only been a couple episodes where the camera setups make me go I dont see anyway they could have staged that short of splicing the film.

[JKTODD]

There's some prison in Pennsylvania (I think) that you can pay to stay the night in that is supposed to be haunted. I saw one of those shows where they highlighted that place and you couldn't pay ME to stay there!:eek:

I haven't heard anything in TONIC's house but her daughter's description of the child is a little freaky and in good detail. Plus she has mentioned it more than once. Who knows? We actually changed rooms for her this weekend.

[TONIC]

There's some prison in Pennsylvania (I think) that you can pay to stay the night in that is supposed to be haunted. I saw one of those shows where they highlighted that place and you couldn't pay ME to stay there!:eek:

I haven't heard anything in TONIC's house but her daughter's description of the child is a little freaky and in good detail. Plus she has mentioned it more than once. Who knows? We actually changed rooms for her this weekend.

plus my daughter would not sleep in that room she always said there was a "monster". SO switching rooms has help alot and I have not seen any "monsters" LOL. (yet) :D

[Oscar]

plus my daughter would not sleep in that room she always said there was a "monster". SO switching rooms has help alot and I have not seen any "monsters" LOL. (yet) :D
HMM wonder what that says about Todd :D

[JKTODD]

HMM wonder what that says about Todd :D

:o

Dang it! I knew introducing her to this board was a bad idea!:P

[TONIC]

HMM wonder what that says about Todd :D

actually Todd probably scared off the ghost because I have not heard those sounds in a while. He's the Hero!!! :hail:

[Oscar]

actually Todd probably scared off the ghost because I have not heard those sounds in a while. He's the Hero!!! :hail:
HMM wonder what THAT says about Todd :D

[shunt]

I have a ghost in my house it likes to knock on the wood floors outside my bedroom door. ANd my daughter who is 3 talks about some kid all the time. Its kind of scary but it has not hurt anyone. So I can live with it.




It's all fun and games until someones head spins around and they projectile vomit....:eek:

[Boogie]

plus my daughter would not sleep in that room she always said there was a "monster". SO switching rooms has help alot and I have not seen any "monsters" LOL. (yet) :D


Trace the walls of her room with pure sea salt leaving the gap for the doorway. Also, before she moves in, get a clear bowl and fill it half full of water, take seven brightly colored flowers and put the buds only in the water. Leave the bowl in the doorway for a week.

I have lots of stories...

[TONIC]

Trace the walls of her room with pure sea salt leaving the gap for the doorway. Also, before she moves in, get a clear bowl and fill it half full of water, take seven brightly colored flowers and put the buds only in the water. Leave the bowl in the doorway for a week.

I have lots of stories...

Is this some sort of a "smudging" tactic? to make the ghost go away. :shrug:

[Boogie]

Is this some sort of a "smudging" tactic? to make the ghost go away. :shrug:

The salt "urges" the bad spirits to go away, the flowers let the "good" spirits know they are welcome (you should do the flowers in every enterance/exit of any home or apartment before you move in). If she still feels the "monster" in the room. Paint the walls a bright reflective type color (white/yellow) remember to paint the closet aswell (don't forget to trace the closet with salt.

[JKTODD]

Should we take the movie poster of Night of the Living Dead off the wall?:shrug:

I really think Marilyn Manson should come down as well.

[Boogie]

Should we take the movie poster of Night of the Living Dead off the wall?:shrug:

I really think Marilyn Manson should come down as well.

Well no wonder she sees a monster. :D









...believe what you want...

[TONIC]

Should we take the movie poster of Night of the Living Dead off the wall?:shrug:

I really think Marilyn Manson should come down as well.


LOL!!! :D

[Gags]

LOL!!! :D

x2

[Snotty]

Pete, remind me to tell you some of my stories when we are drinking sometime. If you ever feel like having a beer at our new place. :D

[4-rocks]

I had foot steps come up behind me one night when I was working on the race car. I turned around and no one was there. I decided it was time to go home.

[AMMOtj]

I used to live in the Grosvenor Arms Apartments at 16th and Logan, that place was haunted for sure. Every time I went to the elevator, i would see the light on the call button go on just as I walked up to it. Lights would be on when I came back home, the heat would be turned on in the morning and this place had a boiler room, so you physically had to turn the valve on the register to turn the heat on.

Nothing bad ever happened, but theres stories floating around the net about that apartment complex. But it was one of the coolest places I've lived!

[theirishavenger]

I used to share a house iwith a kid who was killed in a tragic car accident. He was one of four teens killed in a pileup out west of Greeley back in '96 or so. I was a skeptic before that. Not anymore. I had to move out it was so freaky.

What scares the bejeesus out of me is that one show in particular--"A Haunting". Many of the episodes of that show seem to revolve around evil spirits or demons in a house. That aspect of it scares the hell out of me, so to speak.

[RebelRescuer]

We sold our last house because it was so bad.

The original owner (and person we bought it from) died two weeks after closing from lung cancer. After that, it was LOUD raspy breathing all night long, and not from any certain location in the house. Not the furnace.

We had hammering going on in the house. We're talking actual hammering sounds right in the room we were in.

Dog nails running around on the kitchen floor when we'd be standing in there...with NO dogs.

The day we sold the place, we stopped by one last time to get some photos (it was our first house) and sure enough, there are comet-like orbs in some of them, running in front and behind us.

For four years we dealt with rattling doors, an overwhelmingly bad feeling in one room, every photo full of weird stuff, you name it.

And the house isn't even that old.

[Pilot]

There's some prison in Pennsylvania (I think) that you can pay to stay the night in that is supposed to be haunted.



Its Eastern State Prison in Philly. I've been there and it is very spooky.

http://philadelphia.about.com/od/halloween/a/eastern_state_a.htm

I DVR some of the Discovery Channel " A Haunting" programs which are pretty entertaining. The History Channel used to run some Haunted episodes. My favorite was "Haunted Gettysburg" because I took my family there one weekend and we went on a Ghost tour of Gettysburg around Halloween. It was awesome.

[osirus82]

I think there might also be ghost in my house too, but seems friendly enough. just weird little things happen, like last year im sitting in my front room all alone just chilling watching tv it was summer so i didnt have the heater on, all the windows were closed, for some reason i catch my self looking my front window of my house. Next thing i know the string for the window blind started swinging like someone hit it, now im not talking swinging a little im talking like a 3ft ark, no open window no wind, no heater just me. Krazy, ohh and i dont have a cat or any animals. my house is where all the old airforce men lived around lowry/stapleton, my house was built in 1947 so there has been plenty of years for something to happen. For some reason i get this wierd feeling that someone hung themself from a hallway below the access to the attic. but nothing bad has happened yet. my old rommie decided that it needed a good smudging with sage and clensed my house, Actually i think im lucker than most in my area. I spoke with a neighbor the other day ( i hardly talk to him ) and he was telling me that 90% of the houses on the block that i live on have been broken into in the last couple years. No one has broken in to mine.

[jimfoo]

I think there might also be ghost in my house too, but seems friendly enough. just weird little things happen, like last year im sitting in my front room all alone just chilling watching tv it was summer so i didnt have the heater on, all the windows were closed, for some reason i catch my self looking my front window of my house. Next thing i know the string for the window blind started swinging like someone hit it, now im not talking swinging a little im talking like a 3ft ark, no open window no wind, no heater just me. Krazy, ohh and i dont have a cat or any animals. my house is where all the old airforce men lived around lowry/stapleton, my house was built in 1947 so there has been plenty of years for something to happen. For some reason i get this wierd feeling that someone hung themself from a hallway below the access to the attic. but nothing bad has happened yet. my old rommie decided that it needed a good smudging with sage and clensed my house, Actually i think im lucker than most in my area. I spoke with a neighbor the other day ( i hardly talk to him ) and he was telling me that 90% of the houses on the block that i live on have been broken into in the last couple years. No one has broken in to mine.

Not sure of the year, but I have several old photos, though probably 50's, of where there was a plane crash by Lowry that wiped out a bunch of houses. It must of killed someone, if not quite a few people. I have also had odd things happen at my house although I don't know I would call them hauntings.

[4-rocks]

I lived up on Elder street in North Denver back in the 70's. New house, first night my sister was sitting on the couch reading when the coat closet door slowly opened. She got up and shut the door thinking it was a new house just needed a little adjusting. She hardly got set back down when the door slowly opened again. So she gets up and closes the door a little harder and pulled it several times just to make sure it was latched. She sat back down and the door came open so fast it made air currents in the room but didn't hit the wall when it opened. She just sat there that time. Her house was the only one not broken into over a 7 or 8 year span. Noises all night long, and her bird cage would be turned so the door was against the wall every night when she came home from work. I had a big ole Huskey that would be sleeping away and just jump up and growl. I think the thing lived in the basement with me, I never heard it but my sister would say she'd hear footsteps walking up the stairs and accross the house and then it would stand by her door for a while. Then it would go back down stairs. I don't remember doing that so I assume it was a ghost. My mom stayed with my sister about half a night one time, left in the middle of the night. Sis would get room mates from time to time, none ever stayed more than a night or two. I must have been drunk most of the time and never had any contact with it because we left each other alone. It was probably afraid I'd puke on it if it got to close. Years later I visited the same sister when she lived in Montana, woke up in the middle of the night to hear footsteps in the hall outside my room. I got up and no one was there. I never told her about that, I didn't want to scare her. I think it might be her own personal ghost.

One night I went up to Red Rocks to look for a ghost that is supposed to be up there. Didn't see anything just scared the crap outta two kids doing the nasty up there on the seats. We were pretty drunked up at the time.

[Snotty]

Colorado's own spooky past...

http://www.hauntedcolorado.net/Denver_Haunts.html

The movie The Changeling is based on real events that happened to the author while living in the house.

Shame they tore it down...

[Oscar]

There was a house on Kadena AB in Okinawa that they could not keep people in. It was said it was full of Japanese soldiers ghosts. In 30 years that the house stood the longest anyone stayed in it was 6 weeks. They finally leveled it in 2000.

[AMMOtj]

Colorado's own spooky past...

http://www.hauntedcolorado.net/Denver_Haunts.html

The movie The Changeling is based on real events that happened to the author while living in the house.

Shame they tore it down...

Got this from that website....

SINCE 1931, DENVER RESIDENTS FROM ALL WALKS OF LIFE HAVE CALLED THE HISTORIC GROSVENOR ARMS
APARTMENTS HOME

Author: Laura Watt
Denver Post Staff Writer


It anchors the corner of East 16th Avenue and Logan Street like a great battleship, its bricks and stones built for
heavy service, still seaworthy after nearly 75 years. Boilers churning, brass-gated elevators rising and falling, the
building harbors its secrets and gathers fresh ones each time a new tenant moves in.

When they say they don't build them like they used to, this is what they mean.

Harry Potterish. Dakota-like. Even haunted.

The Grosvenor Arms Apartments opened for business in the fall of 1931. With its deep flagstone courtyard, medieval
gray stone walls and winged serpents guarding the Gothic front door, coming here is like stepping into the past.

But it is very much in the present. Unlike many buildings of this vintage, the Grosvenor has survived and thrived
virtually intact, without falling into seediness or disrepute, its 106 units still spiffy, full of character and sought-after.

In a rental market where the vacancy rate runs upward of 13 percent, the Grosvenor's is less than 5 percent, and its
lobby and hallways teem with residents, many under 30.

"It's an extremely nice place to come home to," says 22-year-old Jesse Marks, a dancer with the Colorado Ballet. "It's
beautiful, it's old. It's a nice mix of downtown residents."

Laura Paisley, a 25-year-old occupational therapist who has decorated her apartment in a spare, modern style, says
the building felt like home to her when she moved in.

"I could tell that people were proud of this building," she says.

They were and are.

The reason The Grosvenor feels like home is because Louis Mack, the mogul who built it, wanted it that way, and
because his daughter, 90-year-old Barbara Mack McKay, has insisted it stay that way. Although she has not lived in
the building for years, she maintains her apartment on the seventh floor and comes often to see
"her building."

"This is a family affair. It's my heritage," says McKay, who visited the site with her father every day when the building
was going up. "My father felt people wanted privacy. That's why he used the best materials. It was built to be their
home."

When it opened, the "absolutely fireproof" building was touted as having "the very latest" in modern conveniences:
"The women folk will love the Eureka gas ranges" an article in The Denver Post said at the time.

The Eureka ranges are long gone, but original tile remains in most bathrooms, and the apartments retain the arched
doorways, original woodwork, hardwood floors, telephone nooks and glass doorknobs popular in the '30s.

Thick, solid walls keep the noise to a muffle. All of the apartments are either one-bedroom or studios, so the
Grosvenor was never for families with children. In fact, children were banned at the beginning, though not now.
Today, one teenager lives in the building.

"In the early days, you had to have references to get in," said Andrew Caron, who has lived here with his wife for 30
years. "People were lawyers, doctors, professionals."

Current residents may skew toward high-tech office workers, but at least two denizens of The Grosvenor seem to
come from the mists of time.



Ghosts - The Man in the Mirror and The Woman Upstairs

"Who knows what secrets these old buildings have?" says Marshall Gregory, who has lived at the Grosvenor for 10
years. "I do believe in ghosts. I don't discount (the stories) at all."

Gregory hasn't seen one, but others have. Janice Eldridge, who was resident manager at The Grosvenor for several
years, twice saw a tall, broad-shouldered man dressed in a dark suit and fedora in one of the large mirrors that flank
the lobby. He was looking at her.

"I said 'hello,"' she says.

Eldridge also felt the presence of an unseen young woman in the hallway outside the eighth-floor laundry. "She had a
very long skirt that would swish. Very elegant. I was never scared. I never felt a menacing feeling. I always felt like they
were protecting us."

Teresa Montano, a weekend manager, also saw the man in the mirror, heard silverware banging in her kitchen sink in
the middle of the night and once a very bright light flashed between her and a friend in the elevator after the friend
accidentally flicked off the overhead light. And The Woman Upstairs?

"When your arms are full of laundry, she'll push the elevator button for you," Montano says.

The ancient Otis elevators, with their brass accordion doors, are notoriously fickle, often skipping floors or stopping
between them. Lots of residents have some tale about something a little odd at The Grosvenor.

"I had a friend here leave for the weekend and when she came home her TV was on, on a sports channel. And she
never watches sports," says Neil Sarno, a 32-year-old engineer for Douglas County. "And the storage units creep a
lot of people out. There is definitely a certain presence and a spirit here."

Ah, the storage units. Crypt-like, dimly lit, on the top floor, nobody likes going there, especially alone. They're chilly
even when it's hot.

Eight floors down, in the office where it's not spooky at all, property manager Dick Pfeifer smiles gently when ghosts
are mentioned. He's never seen anything supernatural, he says, and he's been running things at The Grosvenor for
25 years.

"I take care of business," he says. "What's special about this place? See that door? It's original. See that carpet
there? It's in great shape."

It does seem a little strange, though, that when a visitor takes the elevator alone for the first time, she pushes Five
and it takes her up to Eight - the haunt of The Woman Upstairs. The elevator pauses as if deciding, then eases back
down and stops dead between Three and Four.

Another firm push on the Five button, and the old Otis rises slowly, reluctantly, to its intended destination.

Staff writer Laura Watt can be reached at 303-820-1483 or lwatt@denverpost.com.



http://www.grosvenorarms.com

(http://www.grosvenorarms.com/)333 E. 16th Ave.
Built 1928-1931, opened late 1931
106 apartments, all one-bedroom or studios
Eight floors
One-bedroom rents for $575 a month; studios from $400. Cable, HBO, heat and water paid.
Modeled on: The Grosvenor House Hotel, London
Owner: primarily the Mack family
Original owner: Louis Mack
Architect: Walter Simon
Builders: Dutton & Kendall
Construction: Cement, brick and stone

SOURCE: Denver Post, The (CO) ~ January 30, 2005