Tech sub-forum

[clemsonkrawler]

How about a sub-forum in gen 4x4 strictly for posting tech and how-to's.

Gen 4x4 is closer to quasi-auto-related chit chat these days.

[Camp]

That is what Gen 4x is supposed to be but, the community here doesn't have enough of the true tech or how-to's to keep it that way. I don't think a strictly tech forum would see much traffic.

Look at the pro shop, without competition discussion, there would be very little discussed in there either and that is supposed to also support pro quality fab work and tech as well.

[biggerwrangler]

I think a tech area like a area called general 4x4 is needed

people can post pics and exploded views of axles, engines and how they did most Awsome upgrade.
Example fuel skid plate upgrade simple in thought but in reality on a tj can be very hard as adjustments have to be made to make the tank, and fuel pump fit and work at the same time.

other examples is lifts kits, sye kits wiring for a winch, the new led lights everybody likes, locker upgrades, electric fan upgrades, air intake upgrades
tire to lift charts
plus with a voter on it may give people ideas on weather its a good idea or not

had this on michigan jeepers before the site was converted to americanjeepers and then disowned by the fans.

[JeepWheelin02]

There is quite of bit of this in General 4x4. So whats the problem with posting it there?

[OrangeCrush]

People asking if they can get better mpg by pouring acetone into their tank as well as whether or not streetlocks are legal on trails takes away from the actual tech in there.

[Frank Z]

Not my forum, but I don't see any problems. If the content of a particular thread does not interest you don't read it. Not being an arse, just stating the obvious.

[Trango]

I hunger for more tech.

[Steve]

I hunger for more tech.

Ask a tech question or, better yet, post some. It's not like you're a newbie here or someone with little tech knowledge.

:P

[scottycards]

Someone could post some tech regarding single vs. dual res master cyls, and the procedure for honing a wheel cyl, even............

Or, they could just post that polishing a turd of a brake system yields nothing but a shiny turd of a brake system.......

My tech gauge is obviously on "E".

[SUPERGILDO43]

there is a lot of knowledge lurking in the members of the board and when something is needed to discuss, its discussed. I like the board for what and how it runs, Its a mix of a brand specific forum I visit without all the tire size and lift kit questions and pirate with out all the hostility.

I think its good :shrug:

[Clint]

Look at the pro shop, without competition discussion, there would be very little discussed in there either and that is supposed to also support pro quality fab work and tech as well.

Guess mine didnt qualify as Pro, my EB build was promptly moved back to Gen4x4 :shrug:Frickin mods :flipoff2:

EDIT: Gen4x4 gets more traffic, but with this discussion, it brings a good point: When or should there be a difference in Forums for questions about speakers not working and tuffy boxes vs fab work and really working on rigs...Kind of like a softy gen 4x4 and a hardcor 4x4 type difference :)

[POS owner]

Guess mine didnt qualify as Pro, my EB build was promptly moved back to Gen4x4 :shrug:Frickin mods :flipoff2:

EDIT: Gen4x4 gets more traffic, but with this discussion, it brings a good point: When or should there be a difference in Forums for questions about speakers not working and tuffy boxes vs fab work and really working on rigs...Kind of like a softy gen 4x4 and a hardcor 4x4 type difference :)

well you are a vendor now so count yourself lucky, it should have been wiped out:D :beer:

[Leon Phelps]

I hunger for more tech.

Si. :thumbsup:

[Camp]

You guys do realize, YOU are the tech. I haven't seen enough posted anywhere on the board to justify a forum STRICKLY for it.

Not to mention, it would take a good bit of moderation and every time I move someones thread, they get an automated noticed it was moved and that I moved it. Even though the notice says it is automated and not to respond, 99% of the people respond and 80% of those people are responding to tell me that I am wrong and their questions about what color fuzzy dice should hang from their mirror are really hard core tech and I am biased and picking on them for moving it. This degenerated into 15 PM's back and forth while they cry about not being part of the "In" crowd or how they were just trying to "Help" the other members and this board is going to die because we have a "GOD" complex moderating the board.

Basically, I don't think there is nearly enough content on the board to support a specific forum for this and it would end up being a royal PITA to moderate and deal with all the butt hurt people. :shrug:

[FORMULA51]

Honestly, i've noticed a lot of ppl skim thru threads and don't really even respond. The ppl bring the tech. I know sometimes it sucks when people ask minor questions, but that's what makes a foruma a forum.

Truthfully, i've been going to other forums (multiple) to find the information i need cause not many people here like to give a whole lot of input..

I mean really, i saw a thread on greasing your zerks go over 2 pages, but an honest hard to find question just sits there, then eventually gets buried.


I only come to this forum now, to find out Colorado related events and whatnot. I reserve other places for my tech. It would be nice to only come here, but people need to chime in!
:rant:

[longboy]

If anything, this site needs less forums. More tech, but less forums.

[scottycards]

Camp-

Awesome post. Super funny, and the fuzzy dice comment is priceless.

Well, in order to avoid "how do I change the oil in my diff's" type questions, I am now going to take the extra time to document my routine maintenance that I'll be doing this month.

I'm going to photograph a step by step guide for diff lube change, t-case, trans, lube front end, alignment, blah-blah-blah.

Maybe we can start a sticky in Gen4X4 for "common maintenance how-to's" and avoid some of the repetitiveness of "my check engine light is on", or "I want LED tail lights", or "got a tuffy box, how to install".

Someone should document and post a Welding 101.

That kinda reminds me- I haven't seen a DW thread lately...........:flipoff2:

[Steve]

You guys do realize, YOU are the tech.

No, I don't believe they realize that. :shrug:

Oh, and college boy, it's spelled STRICTLY, not STRICKLY. :loser:


Scott, no DW threads lately because I wrote the definitive DW thread to end all DW threads. (http://www.colorado4x4.org/vbb/showthread.php?t=50775&highlight=death+wobble) There's actually a bit of tech in that thread. :D

:beer:

[scottycards]

Scott, no DW threads lately because I wrote the definitive DW thread to end all DW threads. (http://www.colorado4x4.org/vbb/showthread.php?t=50775&highlight=death+wobble) There's actually a bit of tech in that thread. :D

:beer:

Steve-a reno:

Dude, I KNOW you literally wrote the book on DW! And I KNOW that you look forward, each season, to busting out the "Steve's Complete A-Z guide on DW", and that it's been KILLING you to not have busted that wealth of knowledge out yet in 2008.

I actually enjoy reading it, and learned a whole lot from it. That damn post haunts me anytime my rig has any hint of vibration............

:P :P

[Camp]

Oh, and college boy, it's spelled STRICTLY, not STRICKLY. :loser:





:flipoff2:

[scottycards]

[resisting urge]

New thread- I've got DW, and was wondering if someone could point me to a good source for a big ol' dual steering stabilizer shock setup. My buddy has one on his monster truck, and it works awesome.

[/resisting urge]

[Leon Phelps]

Camp-

Awesome post. Super funny, and the fuzzy dice comment is priceless.

Well, in order to avoid "how do I change the oil in my diff's" type questions, I am now going to take the extra time to document my routine maintenance that I'll be doing this month.

I'm going to photograph a step by step guide for diff lube change, t-case, trans, lube front end, alignment, blah-blah-blah.

Maybe we can start a sticky in Gen4X4 for "common maintenance how-to's" and avoid some of the repetitiveness of "my check engine light is on", or "I want LED tail lights", or "got a tuffy box, how to install".

Someone should document and post a Welding 101.

That kinda reminds me- I haven't seen a DW thread lately...........:flipoff2:

I'm down. Problem is that they will witness me crush about 4 bombers of Fat Tire before the drain plug is even pulled :D.

Yes, I do understand that we are the tech. But I guess we've come to a crossroads so to speak. There is those who know, that dont need to ask and those who dont and cannot use the search function, due to lack of being able to spell.

[Camp]

There is those who know, that dont need to ask and those who dont and cannot use the search function, due to lack of being able to spell.



Bingo :beer:


Not to mention, there seems to be a tendency to be as cheap as possible, even at the expense of having it not work and be unsafe. When you suggest how to do something properly and someone comes in with their $1.95 solution that sorta works and tells you that you are an idiot for spending more money for the correct solution, it gets old and not worth posting real tech answers.

[scottycards]

You seem to have an issue with roofing tar as a substitute for beadlocks.

[Camp]

You seem to have an issue with roofing tar as a substitute for beadlocks.


Actually I'm going to use that one but, I was on that train before that thread :D

No, I know more than a few people that don't post tech here because they get tired of people arguing with them that the correct solution is retarded and that the OP should just drop a quarter in the gumball machine to use the gum as a patch. So many people try to argue tech with no mechanical knowledge but, their brother-dad, Bubba, told them his roommates sister-mom in grade school told them it would work so they aren't going to listen to the answers provided and go with their stupid and dangerous solution that was in their head before they posted. :shrug:

[SUPERGILDO43]

Actually I'm going to use that one but, I was on that train before that thread :D

No, I know more than a few people that don't post tech here because they get tired of people arguing with them that the correct solution is retarded and that the OP should just drop a quarter in the gumball machine to use the gum as a patch. So many people try to argue tech with no mechanical knowledge but, their brother-dad, Bubba, told them his roommates sister-mom in grade school told them it would work so they aren't going to listen to the answers provided and go with their stupid and dangerous solution that was in their head before they posted. :shrug:

but look at pirate and how they answer "dumb" inquiries. I think its an attitude that makes pirate what it is and I know a lot of members who complain about the nature of pirate...

[Leon Phelps]

Bingo :beer:


Not to mention, there seems to be a tendency to be as cheap as possible, even at the expense of having it not work and be unsafe. When you suggest how to do something properly and someone comes in with their $1.95 solution that sorta works and tells you that you are an idiot for spending more money for the correct solution, it gets old and not worth posting real tech answers.

:beer:

Again, I stay out of tech. Too many armchair quarterbacks out there that "know" what their doing and in reality don't know shit, or know from the ONE TJ that has been built, via someones shop.

[Steve]

Again, I stay out of tech.

:wtf:

Sorry, but I gotta call ya on this one. In a previous post in this thread you said you want more tech. You're one of the people here who knows their stuff and can post some great tech answers, but you say you stay out of tech. So, which is it? Want more tech? Do your part or quit whining about the lack of tech. :shrug:

[Leon Phelps]

True. I need to bitch about something. I've been on the rag as of late :shrug:

I'll go post up some dumb ass irrelevant question.

Better :flipoff2:

I guess where I'm trying to get at is, I miss having some higher quality stuff churning out of the sespool known as Gen4x4. Hell the most exciting thing I've seen in a LONG time was Trango's splitter build, which is in Tow Rigs and Trailers.

Again, just being on the soapbox today.

[Trango]

No, I don't believe they realize that. :shrug:


Steve,

I don't know why you and Camp just don't open up the tech faucet a little more? WE ARE DYING OVER HERE.

It's just very selfish to keep all of the tech to yourselves. How much tech did the forum have when you set it up? Surely there's plenty left in the tech tank.

Thanks in advance,
Bob

[Leon Phelps]

Parched, really parched. :flipoff2:

/out

[Steve]

Bob,

As you know I have incorporated with Clint and will be doing custom fab work for $$$. So, with that, I feel I must also charge for tech advice and answers here. I'm trying to work out the details of the billing process for that, as well as how to place liens on peoples' rigs when they don't promptly pay. Once that is all in place I will fully open my tech spigot.

Steve

:spit:

[SUPERGILDO43]

lol

[Frank Z]

I'm thinking that with recent tech fiascos I'm gonna start shutin' up.

[SUPERGILDO43]

I'm thinking that with recent tech fiascos I'm gonna start shutin' up.

no thanks, keep talking.

[Steve]

I'm thinking that with recent tech fiascos I'm gonna start shutin' up.

Please don't. Seriously.

[Frank Z]

Perhaps we need a Point, Giggle, & Snicker Forum?:D

[Tom N]

Bob,

As you know I have incorporated with Clint and will be doing custom fab work for $$$. So, with that, I feel I must also charge for tech advice and answers here. I'm trying to work out the details of the billing process for that, as well as how to place liens on peoples' rigs when they don't promptly pay. Once that is all in place I will fully open my tech spigot.

Steve

:spit:


<Crazy guy butts in> I thought y'alls were just gonna make up stuff, like how it's perfectly okay for oil companies to screw us over. <crazy guy butts out>

[JeepWheelin02]

Perhaps we need a Point, Giggle, & Snicker Forum?:D

AKA Frank Z is at it again thread :flipoff2:

[Frank Z]

Yeah! Sumthin' like that....Well I guess there's always "The Frank Thread."

Maybe change it to "The Cursed Attention Ho Thread.":idea:

[biggerwrangler]

it was a suggestion of what i seen and used, its your forum do as you please.
I can always search this and google what ever i don't find. I use anything i find as a suggestion or hint.

[CLYDE]

No, I know more than a few people that don't post tech here because they get tired of people arguing with them that the correct solution is retarded :shrug:

Pretty much sums up my thoughts on it.

[jeepn4evr]

Perhaps we need a Point, Giggle, & Snicker Forum?:D

Think this would be a good ides. But you can't start a new thread in it, it has to be moved from somewhere else. Someone asks a dumb question gets moved to that forum. Post a dumb questions as a joke (streetlocks) gets moved. You can respond, just can't make a new thread in that forum.

Maybe having a forum of just locked stickies about general maintenance & troubleshooting. Things like recommended maintenence, why engine light on for common engines etc. These threads would be authored by one or 2 people that can be referenced when someone asks same question for 15th time.

[Clint]

Think this would be a good ides. But you can't start a new thread in it, it has to be moved from somewhere else. Someone asks a dumb question gets moved to that forum. Post a dumb questions as a joke (streetlocks) gets moved. You can respond, just can't make a new thread in that forum.

Maybe having a forum of just locked stickies about general maintenance & troubleshooting. Things like recommended maintenence, why engine light on for common engines etc. These threads would be authored by one or 2 people that can be referenced when someone asks same question for 15th time.

This would require people to use the search button though instead of just posting up, which aint gonna happen :)

[Trango]

Yeah more tech thanks! :thumbsup:

[birddog59]

I am so not the tech, you guys that bring the tech are very much appreciated by myself and many others. I lurked for about 2 years before I posted much at all and have definitely posted more than one less than stellar question. I can and do use search. Please do not stop bringing the tech, I may be an old dog but I would like to continue learning tricks (tech)!

[jimminyC]

Yea, i agree birddog. I didn't know nuttin' about jeepin' except what I had read in Petersons (Which wasn't much of an education) until I moved to Colorado, had some help from some buddies and got a lot of input from guys on here. The more great fab work I see, the less I know, but my rig seems to work ok thanks to the input of guys around here. It's not enough to know how to "fix" stuff. The true tech, is the stuff that helps our rigs hold up to offroad abuse for the long haul. That's the stuff that I appreciate.

I think for some, it's just fun to post up a question (simple or complicated) about their rig, and have a discussion about what will work. Sure you can search and find the answer, but when you post up about your rig, you get all kinds of input about it and meet new people with similar rigs. I understand that maybe the chit chat forum is a better place to "get to know" people. But, I don't think anyone is intentionally ticking people off with easy questions.
For you great tech guys, just keep your eyes open for the tougher questions, and shower us with your knowledge when you have time.

[KC 06 LJ]

Yea, i agree birddog. I didn't know nuttin' about jeepin' except what I had read in Petersons (Which wasn't much of an education) until I moved to Colorado, had some help from some buddies and got a lot of input from guys on here. The more great fab work I see, the less I know, but my rig seems to work ok thanks to the input of guys around here. It's not enough to know how to "fix" stuff. The true tech, is the stuff that helps our rigs hold up to offroad abuse for the long haul. That's the stuff that I appreciate.

I think for some, it's just fun to post up a question (simple or complicated) about their rig, and have a discussion about what will work. Sure you can search and find the answer, but when you post up about your rig, you get all kinds of input about it and meet new people with similar rigs. I understand that maybe the chit chat forum is a better place to "get to know" people. But, I don't think anyone is intentionally ticking people off with easy questions.
For you great tech guys, just keep your eyes open for the tougher questions, and shower us with your knowledge when you have time.

X2. all jeeps are just a little different and it is nice to hear how rigs and things that are not recent projects are holding up. after the event goes on alot of times it seems that the project just disappears into oblivion and not much for long term reviews. my $.02

[clemsonkrawler]

Im bumping this because I think its important. I think a section of just "How-to's" and reference materials would be a valuable asset to this site.
Write-ups could/should include:
Jeep general maintenace: oil change, diff service, Check engine code list, brake job, radiator flush
Dana 44/60: hub/bearing service, ball joint replacement
General axle/driveshaft: service/replace u-joints
DEATH WOBBLE CHECKLIST

links to Billavistas Dana 60 bible, 14 bolt bible, restraints bible would be helpful too.

Thats all I have to say about that, maybe....prolly not.

[Clint]

Im bumping this because I think its important. I think a section of just "How-to's" and reference materials would be a valuable asset to this site.
Write-ups could/should include:
Jeep general maintenace: oil change, diff service, Check engine code list, brake job, radiator flush
Dana 44/60: hub/bearing service, ball joint replacement
General axle/driveshaft: service/replace u-joints
DEATH WOBBLE CHECKLIST

links to Billavistas Dana 60 bible, 14 bolt bible, restraints bible would be helpful too.

Thats all I have to say about that, maybe....prolly not.

How to change speakers and get the power window switch working again, and also A/C not cold enough :D

[clemsonkrawler]

To avoid an influx of retardation, this section should work like a magazine..... not a forum. AKA, users will submit finished articles that will then be posted and LOCKED.

[Camp]

Im bumping this because I think its important. I think a section of just "How-to's" and reference materials would be a valuable asset to this site.
Write-ups could/should include:
Jeep general maintenace: oil change, diff service, Check engine code list, brake job, radiator flush
Dana 44/60: hub/bearing service, ball joint replacement
General axle/driveshaft: service/replace u-joints
DEATH WOBBLE CHECKLIST

links to Billavistas Dana 60 bible, 14 bolt bible, restraints bible would be helpful too.

Thats all I have to say about that, maybe....prolly not.

You guys do realize, YOU are the tech. I haven't seen enough posted anywhere on the board to justify a forum STRICKLY for it.

Not to mention, it would take a good bit of moderation and every time I move someones thread, they get an automated noticed it was moved and that I moved it. Even though the notice says it is automated and not to respond, 99% of the people respond and 80% of those people are responding to tell me that I am wrong and their questions about what color fuzzy dice should hang from their mirror are really hard core tech and I am biased and picking on them for moving it. This degenerated into 15 PM's back and forth while they cry about not being part of the "In" crowd or how they were just trying to "Help" the other members and this board is going to die because we have a "GOD" complex moderating the board.

Basically, I don't think there is nearly enough content on the board to support a specific forum for this and it would end up being a royal PITA to moderate and deal with all the butt hurt people. :shrug:

To avoid an influx of retardation, this section should work like a magazine..... not a forum. AKA, users will submit finished articles that will then be posted and LOCKED.

You guys do realize, YOU are the tech. I haven't seen enough posted anywhere on the board to justify a forum STRICKLY for it.

Not to mention, it would take a good bit of moderation and every time I move someones thread, they get an automated noticed it was moved and that I moved it. Even though the notice says it is automated and not to respond, 99% of the people respond and 80% of those people are responding to tell me that I am wrong and their questions about what color fuzzy dice should hang from their mirror are really hard core tech and I am biased and picking on them for moving it. This degenerated into 15 PM's back and forth while they cry about not being part of the "In" crowd or how they were just trying to "Help" the other members and this board is going to die because we have a "GOD" complex moderating the board.

Basically, I don't think there is nearly enough content on the board to support a specific forum for this and it would end up being a royal PITA to moderate and deal with all the butt hurt people. :shrug:

I am already not able to be on here much. Asking for the mods to have to read everything and decide what can be posted and what can't is asking a lot of people who give their time for free. Then you get into the rest of the reasons that I mentioned, that it would SUCK for the moderators.

[Trango]

Locking a tech post presupposes that anyone of us is authoritative and thorough enough to post something that requires no addition or revision.

[Leon Phelps]

How to change speakers and get the power window switch working again, and also A/C not cold enough :D

God damnit, I want the A/C to work on my soft top TJ car. :flipoff2:

I got nothing, seriously.

[scottycards]

Done offering up tech unsolicited on my 4X4 as well. Most of the reasons have been covered, but we all know why.

I'm about done offering up tech in CF as well. I put up a dyno sheet, and the first post calls it into question.

F'ing ridiculous.

[Leon Phelps]

Yup.... Why do you think I don't have a thread for either Mustang.....

[scottycards]

Yup.... Why do you think I don't have a thread for either Mustang.....

Smart guy.

On another forum I frequent, that criticism crap doesn't fly. You chime in with unconstructive/unsubstantiated tech, your post gets deleted, and you're on a two week vacation to BanLand.

2nd offense is permaban.

The tech there is friggin' awesome. Like flycutting pistons to fit big cams- step by step how-to's for the DIY'er. So cool.

[Frank Z]

I provide tech posts for comic relief only.

[Clint]

I think the whole point of what Justin (clemson) was getting to with this is the tech is bleh most of the time. There are guys on this site with alot of specialized info to offer, but they figure "whats the point". There are people on here who absorb everything and really get involved in good tech talk, but again, its so washed out most of the time that the "whats the point" feeling comes up again. Then there are the non-searchers and the 15 CB questions every week, etc. If I am looking for tech I end up going elsewhere most of the time. I made the comment a while back that if you are looking for the basic jeep tech then Gen4x4 is great. Other than that, Whats the point. I dunno, Im just rambling...Maybe its not the point....

[Leon Phelps]

I think the whole point of what Justin (clemson) was getting to with this is the tech is bleh most of the time. There are guys on this site with alot of specialized info to offer, but they figure "whats the point". There are people on here who absorb everything and really get involved in good tech talk, but again, its so washed out most of the time that the "whats the point" feeling comes up again. Then there are the non-searchers and the 15 CB questions every week, etc. If I am looking for tech I end up going elsewhere most of the time. I made the comment a while back that if you are looking for the basic jeep tech then Gen4x4 is great. Other than that, Whats the point. I dunno, Im just rambling...Maybe its not the point....

Truth.

[Leon Phelps]

Smart guy.

On another forum I frequent, that criticism crap doesn't fly. You chime in with unconstructive/unsubstantiated tech, your post gets deleted, and you're on a two week vacation to BanLand.

2nd offense is permaban.

The tech there is friggin' awesome. Like flycutting pistons to fit big cams- step by step how-to's for the DIY'er. So cool.

I'm cool with constructive criticism.... hell I encourage it, but when your posting up utter bullshit with nothing to back it up and your "armchair QB'in" the thread...... Pound sand or go build your own shit.

[clemsonkrawler]

I think the whole point of what Justin (clemson) was getting to with this is the tech is bleh most of the time. There are guys on this site with alot of specialized info to offer, but they figure "whats the point". There are people on here who absorb everything and really get involved in good tech talk, but again, its so washed out most of the time that the "whats the point" feeling comes up again. Then there are the non-searchers and the 15 CB questions every week, etc. If I am looking for tech I end up going elsewhere most of the time. I made the comment a while back that if you are looking for the basic jeep tech then Gen4x4 is great. Other than that, Whats the point. I dunno, Im just rambling...Maybe its not the point....

Thanks Clint. Ya know, when Jeepsunlimited.com has more tech, thats pretty sad. If ONE more section is just too much to handle, Ill volunteer to mod it. Im on the computer 24/7 for work anyway. If nothing else, it would be nice to clean up gen 4x4 from the weekly CB, Death wobble, and check engine light thread.

[Clint]

Thanks Clint. Ya know, when Jeepsunlimited.com has more tech, thats pretty sad. If ONE more section is just too much to handle, Ill volunteer to mod it. Im on the computer 24/7 for work anyway. If nothing else, it would be nice to clean up gen 4x4 from the weekly CB, Death wobble, and check engine light thread.

I would be up for modding it as well or helping you out or whatever. In my perfect world it would be a closely watched discussion forum with TECH ONLY, and good tech. Submission of articles could be done for how-to's and once a discussion was completed in the forum then it could be put in the How To section and locked. Could be a limit on discussion of 7 days then the article is done. If its not hard tech it gets nuked. If you dont contribute or back up something with facts, nuked. No cant pass emissions, cb, A/C type stuff. I dunno. might flop but it would be nice to try.

[Steve]

FYI I just moved three threads from Gen 4x4 to Chit Chat, and I deleted one more. At least for the time being if there are threads in Gen 4x4 (such as CB installs, miracle doodads to boost mileage, etc.) that belong in Chit Chat please send me, Camp, or one of the other mods a PM and we'll take care of it.

I know Camp and I used to be on here much more than we are now, so we don't catch stuff that we used to. Help us out a bit here and we'll try to at least keep the Gen 4x4 forum cleaned up unless and until a tech forum comes along.

:beer:

[scottycards]

I'm cool with constructive criticism.... hell I encourage it, but when your posting up utter bullshit with nothing to back it up and your "armchair QB'in" the thread...... Pound sand or go build your own shit.

:thumbsup:

Smack is fine in Chit Chat, but in tech, no room for it.

If I hear another Grade 8 vs. Grade 5 discussion that involves the words "crappy Grade 5", or "use Grade 8 bolts to mount your antenna", I'm going to hurl.

[FORMULA51]

for some reasons thats why pirate works well (other than the fact its worldwide). It's useless to add another forum, IMO. There's only a few people on here who even spend the time to show their build.

Either that, or re-name the PRO-SHOP forum to something like custom work. IMO, the name "the pro-shop" keeps people away for posting new threads due to the "professional" name. To me that means the vendors &/or the sponsored racing teams can only post there. I know we all can, but don't due to that name.

It can be done like a "newbie general 4x4" then "Hardcore". You can ask your newb questions in the newb forum and the hardcore threads in the HC forum. I mean, you guys are all bitching about these threads, but where the f%^k else are they going to ask it?

:thumbsup: :shrug:

[clemsonkrawler]

Either that, or re-name the PRO-SHOP forum to something like custom work. IMO, the name "the pro-shop" keeps people away for posting new threads due to the "professional" name. To me that means the vendors &/or the sponsored racing teams can only post there. I know we all can, but don't due to that name.


Actually thats BS.... not just anyone can post there. Clint posted his Bronco build in the pro-shop and it got moved to Gen 4x4. If stretching, 4 linking and adding coilovers while re-doing the cage and narrowing the front clip 8" isnt good enough for the 'pro-shop' section..... then nothing is.

That gives me an idea..... New thread time.... theyre gonna ban me eventually.

[FORMULA51]

Actually thats BS.... not just anyone can post there. Clint posted his Bronco build in the pro-shop and it got moved to Gen 4x4. If stretching, 4 linking and adding coilovers while re-doing the cage and narrowing the front clip 8" isnt good enough for the 'pro-shop' section..... then nothing is.

That gives me an idea..... New thread time.... theyre gonna ban me eventually.


well then i'll eat my words.


THERE NEEDS TO BE A NEWBISH FORUM AND A HARDCORE FORUM. OTHERWISE PEOPLE ARE GOING TO START GOING TO OTHER PLACES TO TALK 4 WHEELIN.

I know i have. :shrug: seriously.

[FORMULA51]

the only reason i come to colorado4x4.org is for the chit chat, the staging area, and the classifieds. Other than that, this place is pretty close to worthless for gen 4x4. I mean, if i want to read a custom build about cruzin illusion's rig, i sure as hell don't come here, i go to naxja.

If i want to read about the sickest TJ build i go to pirate.


but what do i know.

[Clint]

well then i'll eat my words.


THERE NEEDS TO BE A NEWBISH FORUM AND A HARDCORE FORUM. OTHERWISE PEOPLE ARE GOING TO START GOING TO OTHER PLACES TO TALK 4 WHEELIN.

I know i have. :shrug: seriously.


X2. I think we are all talking about the same thing....

[al24]

I am already not able to be on here much. Asking for the mods to have to read everything and decide what can be posted and what can't is asking a lot of people who give their time for free. Then you get into the rest of the reasons that I mentioned, that it would SUCK for the moderators.
Well, maybe if you're too busy you should quit and let somebody with the time to do the "job", take over?

[Mcstiff]

Smart guy.

On another forum I frequent, that criticism crap doesn't fly. You chime in with unconstructive/unsubstantiated tech, your post gets deleted, and you're on a two week vacation to BanLand.

2nd offense is permaban.

The tech there is friggin' awesome. Like flycutting pistons to fit big cams- step by step how-to's for the DIY'er. So cool.

Link?

The Audi tech forums I browse are slow (it does not help that I am not working on my junk).

[FORMULA51]

mods? got response to this new idea?

[Jason]

the only reason i come to colorado4x4.org is for the chit chat, the staging area, and the classifieds. Other than that, this place is pretty close to worthless for gen 4x4. I mean, if i want to read a custom build about cruzin illusion's rig, i sure as hell don't come here, i go to naxja.

If i want to read about the sickest TJ build i go to pirate.


but what do i know.For some reason I agree with this douchbag :flipoff2:

[Jeffro600]

the only reason i come to colorado4x4.org is for the chit chat, the staging area, and the classifieds. Other than that, this place is pretty close to worthless for gen 4x4. I mean, if i want to read a custom build about cruzin illusion's rig, i sure as hell don't come here, i go to naxja.

If i want to read about the sickest TJ build i go to pirate.


but what do i know.

X2...tech has never been a real strong point on this board from what ive seen over the last few years. If i want answers to a technical question, need diagrams for a wiring harness, cant figure out where the hell that extra nut and bolt went, or anything that requires a bit of specified knowledge, ill hit pirate. About the only thing i browse here anymore are the chit chat, photography and bike sections.

Maybe Eric should change the site name to ColoradoHobbiesandChitChat.org... :flipoff2:

[FORMULA51]

Maybe Eric should change the site name to ColoradoHobbiesandChitChat.org... :flipoff2:

win.

[Jason]

Or coloradopoliticalbashing.net

[clemsonkrawler]

Thats right, fawkers... I bumped the thread. :stirpot:

[Clint]

Thats right, fawkers... I bumped the thread. :stirpot:


:eek::D