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[Da Kine]

What the H3!! is going on in this country?!

http://www.cfnews13.com/News/Local/2008/4/7/6_teens_charged_after_taped_beating_of_girl_posted_on_myspace.html

[MountainJeep]

pay per view potential?

[Gags]

Materialism and bitch idols. Our kids are f@cked. Their parents are f@cking retards. Violence begets violence. When people are dying all over the World a beating doesn't seem as bad. IMO, this is an effect of bored, disenchanted little selfish bastards who wanna be thugs. Each one of these little MF'ers need to be checked.

Gang violence is part of our History. The cultural effects that lead to this are the "every man for himself" "I don't care about anyone but me." In fact, a lot of this conservative rhetoric about let people fend for themselves contributes to a lack of empathy for humans in general.

[Suki]

take those preppies to the ghetto and see how long they last!

[OrangeCrush]

Materialism and bitch idols. Our kids are f@cked. Their parents are f@cking retards. Violence begets violence. When people are dying all over the World a beating doesn't seem as bad. IMO, this is an effect of bored, disenchanted little selfish bastards who wanna be thugs. Each one of these little MF'ers need to be checked.

Gang violence is part of our History. The cultural effects that lead to this are the "every man for himself" "I don't care about anyone but me." In fact, a lot of this conservative rhetoric about let people fend for themselves contributes to a lack of empathy for humans in general.

Gags,
I read your reply looking for how we could blame Bush and conservatives for the mess our kids are in and you did not disappoint!
I am sure this has nothing to do with the entertainment industry pornifying our culture and making street life glamorous.Hell they even market streetfighting as a sport nowadays and then people ask why the kids are screwing up...

[DADA_JEEP]

this is why my daughters are already (oldest is 7) learning how to defend themselves. my kids will not be helpless victims if i have anything to say about it.

[Loki]

Gags,
I read your reply looking for how we could blame Bush and conservatives for the mess our kids are in and you did not disappoint!
I am sure this has nothing to do with the entertainment industry pornifying our culture and making street life glamorous.Hell they even market streetfighting as a sport nowadays and then people ask why the kids are screwing up...

x2 :rolleyes:

[CherryokeeXJ]

I have an idea. Let's blame everything but the kids themselves. I mean, nowadays you don't have to take responsibility for anything you do, right? If you watch TV, you're a victim. If your folks sucked, you're a victim. If you see anyone else doing something bad and you fawking do it, you're a victim. I'm so sick of hearing this shit.

I watched TV, my parents did their best and still failed to be perfect, and I had multiple opportunities to let dumba$$es influence my morals and beliefs. To this day I've never beat someone up, shot anybody, robbed a bank, molested a child, ect, ect, fawking ect. I decided to be a good person, and by God it wasn't that hard to do. These kids made a choice to do this. No one else made the decision for them. Not the media, not their folks, NO ONE BUT THEMSELVES. They're little a-holes and that's that.

[JeepWheelin02]

To this day I've never beat someone up, shot anybody, robbed a bank, molested a child, ect, ect, fawking ect.

So does it mean I'm a bad person because I have done two of the things on your list?

[Gags]

Gags,
I read your reply looking for how we could blame Bush and conservatives for the mess our kids are in and you did not disappoint!
I am sure this has nothing to do with the entertainment industry pornifying our culture and making street life glamorous.Hell they even market streetfighting as a sport nowadays and then people ask why the kids are screwing up...

I'm not blaming Bush at all. This is a cultural shift. How many of our kids kill kids and kids kill parents? It's a trend. A culture of violence and where violence is admired. Street life and gangs have always been glorified by the entertainment industry..."A rebel without a cause," "West side Story" ect.

At least Porn isn't violent...Mostly.

In a culture of violence and complete selfishness this is were we are. Street fighting for sport doesn't help but it is a disciplined martial art in a sense.

Are we not in a self absorbed culture of violence? I'm describing wtf I see my man. Don't dismiss is completely because it causes one to look at themselves and ask "do I contribute?" Selfishness, "conservative platform" makes everything OK as long as we are satisfied regardless of whom we hurt. F@cking arrogance.

[Gags]

x2 :rolleyes:

:flipoff2: :flipoff2:

For the both of you.

Look at it honestly and say we have no role...

[Colorado_Baja]

Hell they even market streetfighting as a sport nowadays and then people ask why the kids are screwing up...

They are screwing up because their parents are irresponsable ****tards.

Blaming incidents like this on TV or video games is like blaming shootings on guns.. Guns dont kill people, people kill people..

[CherryokeeXJ]

So does it mean I'm a bad person because I have done two of the things on your list?

Specify which two. Molestation is in there bud.

[JeepWheelin02]

It wasnt molestation (thats just wrong on every level)

[Gags]

As a Country youths have always been involved in violence.

It's the f@cking parents who are lost in selfishness and ignorance and self glorification. They are the ones that vote. They are ones that pass this sensability to their children.

Our Gov officials seem to caught f@cking up on a dialy basis. Our Church leaders are molesting kids and living in hypocrisy. Selfish, self absorbed f@cktards who never get checked. God forbid we look at ourselves...

[Loki]

:flipoff2: :flipoff2:

For the both of you.

Look at it honestly and say we have no role...

Conservatives believe in Traditional Values, nothing in that story represents traditional values. Not sure how you are making the link to conservatism??? :confused:

[Gags]

Anyone read about the 3rd graders planning an attack on their teacher? They were going to gag her and stab her ass.

Even the Mafia of old had a code and rules and respect.

[scottycards]

It wasnt molestation (thats just wrong on every level)

I was just gonna say....."dude! molested AND robbed a bank?"

:hail: :hail: :hail:

J/K. :D

[JimhatTJ]

when did u shoot someone

[Gags]

Conservatives believe in Traditional Values, nothing in that story represents traditional values. Not sure how you are making the link to conservatism??? :confused:

The hypocrisy and self absorbed arrogance is more to what I speak. How can we say one thing, do another and not expect that to have consequences. From an economic and social standpoint a conservative can give a f@ck about people who they deem as "problems." Not to address the problem but blame the people affected by the problem and say it's their fault.

To me that is selfish and people are expendable.

[zoriloco]

I say blame the parents..... I bet you sometime with in the next couple of months they will have already put this behind and bought them a new cell, cloths or car.

Little Beatches.

[JeepWheelin02]

I was just gonna say....."dude! molested AND robbed a bank?"

:hail: :hail: :hail:

J/K. :D

Drink another :beer: Scotty. :thumbsup:

[JeepWheelin02]

when did u shoot someone

It's happened once, but I wasnt including that in my list of 2.

[scottycards]

Drink another :beer: Scotty. :thumbsup:

Sorry, Man. Couldn't pass that one up.

:beer: :beer:

Cracks me up.............:shrug: What can I say, I'm easily amused.

[Gags]

A man must have a code. This must be instilled.

Sh!t, how many little rich kids did I grow up with whose parents didn't give a sh!t about them. They wealthier they were and less love and discipline they received the worse they were. Multi million dollar homes and the kid taking a gun to school I've witnessed several times. Of course, the parents went to church and were Republicans...Not that Dem families didn't have problems. It's just interesting to me to see the people making these little monsters.

No sense of justice.

[Loki]

The hypocrisy and self absorbed arrogance is more to what I speak. How can we say one thing, do another and not expect that to have consequences. From an economic and social standpoint a conservative can give a f@ck about people who they deem as "problems." Not to address the problem but blame the people affected by the problem and say it's their fault.

To me that is selfish and people are expendable.

I can't even follow your thinking pattern here to be able to formulate a logical response.

Conservatives believe in helping out others who show a willingness to try and help themselves, and actually want to change their situation. Its the ones that just want to rely on us and the Govt for a handout we lack compassion for.

[zoriloco]

Some day these little Fawkers will learn that there is always someone tougher and with less to loose then them.

I'm sure they've got something coming to them.

[Gags]

I can't even follow your thinking pattern here to be able to formulate a logical response.

Conservatives believe in helping out others who show a willingness to try and help themselves, and actually want to change their situation. Its the ones that just want to rely on us and the Govt for a handout we lack compassion for.

I'll try to clarify. If 100 people were killed in Vienna VA in a year the National Gaurd would be sent in...15 miles away in South East DC nobody really gives a sh!t if 200 people are killed in a year. Perhaps I was being a bit tough on conservatism. It's more of a sensability that I was trying to nail down.

[mattpenhollow]

I'll try to clarify. If 100 people were killed in Vienna VA in a year the National Gaurd would be sent in...15 miles away in South Est DC nobody really gives a sh!t if 200 people are killed in a year. Perhaps I was being a bit tough on conservatism. It's more of a sensability that I was trying to nail down.

you havent clarified anything dude. ya you were too tough on conservatism. you know why? because you still havent provided a credible link between conservatism and violence or dysfunctional families. i come from a long line of republicans and there has never been a case of any one of my family members doing anything like this.

[Loki]

I'll try to clarify. If 100 people were killed in Vienna VA in a year the National Gaurd would be sent in...15 miles away in South East DC nobody really gives a sh!t if 200 people are killed in a year. Perhaps I was being a bit tough on conservatism. It's more of a sensability that I was trying to nail down.

Well Im not sure I believe that nobody gives a sh!t. There are real problems in our country these days, but I would attribute them to our move away from traditional thinking, and towards a more liberal attitude regarding: education, punishment, and behavior. This story is just another prime example of that. IMHO.

[Jake_Blues]

A certain percentage of the population are nutjobs, plain and simple; always have been, always will be. As the population goes up, the number of nut-jobs goes up.

When you have 1 percent nutjobs in a town of 1,000 people, you get ten nutjobs.

When you have 1 percent nutjobs in a city of one million, you get 10,000 nut jobs, and chances are there is one living on your street.

I'd be very shocked if any sort of political, religious, or ideological group had more or less than the average number of crazies.

-E

[scottycards]

Nambla?

[Jake_Blues]

Nambla?

OK, you win.

-E

[mtntj]

Those kids made their own chocie. But they did it based on how they were raised. Meaning they have not been held accountable in the past. their train of thought allows them do as they wish, with no regards for other people. Because they have never had to answer to anyone for their actions.

[Yota]

You want to blame conservatives for a lack of respect for life?

Conservatives are the ones stuck on themselves and teaching that anything goes?

If that's your view of conservatism then you need to check your sources of information because you could not be more wrong.

[TripleZero]

What I want to know is what does ones political affiliation have to do with how well or poorly they raise their children and how well or poorly they were raised as children. Sorry, I see no real correlation between political affiliation or beliefs and common sense or lack there of with how society in general raises their children these days. Not sure what else to say but the general lack in family values these days stems more from environmental and social behavior more than anything else.

[Gags]

you havent clarified anything dude. ya you were too tough on conservatism. you know why? because you still havent provided a credible link between conservatism and violence or dysfunctional families. i come from a long line of republicans and there has never been a case of any one of my family members doing anything like this.

3/4 Troll (c'mon ridiculous was a comment that conservatism = crazy) 1/4 real opinion

This is a cultural shift where blame falls upon everyone.

[Gags]

Well Im not sure I believe that nobody gives a sh!t. There are real problems in our country these days, but I would attribute them to our move away from traditional thinking, and towards a more liberal attitude regarding: education, punishment, and behavior. This story is just another prime example of that. IMHO.

Word. Nice. :beer:

[Gags]

Sh!t, I'd bring corporal punshiment back to public schools.

[OrangeCrush]

Its the self esteem movement in our educational system allowed to propagate.

I am a conservative, I believe in personal responsibility that being said anyone can fall upon bad times and that is why I donate to worthy causes both in my time and my money each year. You would be surprised at the number of people who are currently homeless in our country that can be productive citizens once again if you just allow them to get cleaned up and presentable for job interviews...

[OrangeCrush]

Sh!t, I'd bring corporal punshiment back to public schools.

If I get called because my children are causing a distraction to the classroom and are not behaving as they should they get corporal punishment


Also if a teacher or a stranger is spending more time with your kids than you are you are failing as a parent.

[Pilot]

They're not even Hawt. WTF???

Nothing to see here.

[Jake_Blues]

Sh!t, I'd bring corporal punshiment back to public schools.

I doubt very seriously if it would make a difference. Everyone likes to say "things were so much nicer in the past, when we could beat our kids/sex wasn't on TV/<my political group> controlled the country", but really, the percentage of crazy people doing crazy things hasn't changed all that much over the years.

-E

[OrangeCrush]

I doubt very seriously if it would make a difference. Everyone likes to say "things were so much nicer in the past, when we could beat our kids/sex wasn't on TV/<my political group> controlled the country", but really, the percentage of crazy people doing crazy things hasn't changed all that much over the years.

-E

NO our self absorbed society stopped spending time with kids and TV/Movies/Politicians/Internet/Video Games stepped in as babysitters

[Gags]

Its the self esteem movement in our educational system allowed to propagate.

I am a conservative, I believe in personal responsibility that being said anyone can fall upon bad times and that is why I donate to worthy causes both in my time and my money each year. You would be surprised at the number of people who are currently homeless in our country that can be productive citizens once again if you just allow them to get cleaned up and presentable for job interviews...

I trolled this as far as I'm willing to go now a days.

Personally, kids are our present and future for many of us. I don't have any. However, the most socialist I've EVER been was to believe in making public schools like the highend prep schools. For kids from extremely poor areas with f@cked parents we send them to a boarding school of high quality for free with therapy to help them through their issues. This is an area where sending my money to the government would be worth it in my mind. Of course, salaries would have to rise and we get quality teachers with old school rules.

[Gags]

I doubt very seriously if it would make a difference. Everyone likes to say "things were so much nicer in the past, when we could beat our kids/sex wasn't on TV/<my political group> controlled the country", but really, the percentage of crazy people doing crazy things hasn't changed all that much over the years.

-E

Truth.

[OrangeCrush]

I trolled this as far as I'm willing to go now a days.

Personally, kids are our present and future for many of us. I don't have any. However, the most socialist I've EVER been was to believe in making public schools like the highend prep schools. For kids from extremely poor areas with f@cked parents we send them to a boarding school of high quality for free with therapy to help them through their issues. This is an area where sending my money to the government would be worth it in my mind. Of course, salaries would have to rise and we get quality teachers with old school rules.

I agree with you here Gags, the only people I know teaching are doing it based on a sense of community service.

[scottycards]

I agree with you here Gags, the only people I know teaching are doing it based on a sense of community service.

Idiots. If they'd just let the free market work, and let those lowlife kids die or kill each other off as is the natural way of things, all would be good.......

Seriously.






Not.

[Gags]

Its the self esteem movement in our educational system allowed to propagate.

I am a conservative, I believe in personal responsibility that being said anyone can fall upon bad times and that is why I donate to worthy causes both in my time and my money each year. You would be surprised at the number of people who are currently homeless in our country that can be productive citizens once again if you just allow them to get cleaned up and presentable for job interviews...

I wish they knew that self esteem comes from accomplishing something difficult...

[OrangeCrush]

Well we dontlet them play tag anymore shouldnt that do it?

[ni0h]

Sorry, Man. Couldn't pass that one up.

:beer: :beer:

Cracks me up.............:shrug: What can I say, I'm easily amused.

He did both "etc."s (which happen to be mopery and jaywalking).