Global cooling is it possible?

[sames]

From this website http://www.dailytech.com/



Twelve-month long drop in world temperatures wipes out a century of warming

Over the past year, anecdotal evidence for a cooling planet has exploded. China has its coldest winter in 100 years. Baghdad sees its first snow (http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=D8U3RFHO0&show_article=1) in all recorded history. North America has the most snowcover in 50 years (http://www.nationalpost.com/opinion/columnists/story.html?id=332289), with places like Wisconsin the highest since record-keeping began. Record levels of Antarctic sea ice, record cold in Minnesota (http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=D8UO7SJ00&show_article=1), Texas, Florida, Mexico, Australia (http://www.washingtontimes.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20071219/COMMENTARY/10575140), Iran, Greece (http://www.ana.gr/anaweb/user/showplain?maindoc=6157497&maindocimg=6154941&service=6), South Africa, Greenland, Argentina, Chile -- the list goes on and on. No more than anecdotal evidence, to be sure. But now, that evidence has been supplanted by hard scientific fact. All four major global temperature tracking outlets (Hadley, NASA's GISS, UAH, RSS) have released updated data. All show that over the past year, global temperatures have dropped precipitously.
A compiled list of all the sources can be seen here (http://wattsupwiththat.wordpress.com/2008/02/19/january-2008-4-sources-say-globally-cooler-in-the-past-12-months/). The total amount of cooling ranges from 0.65C up to 0.75C -- a value large enough to wipe out most of the warming recorded over the past 100 years. All in one year's time. For all four sources, it's the single fastest temperature change ever recorded, either up or down.
Scientists quoted in a past DailyTech article (http://www.dailytech.com/Solar+Activity+Diminishes+Researchers+Predict+Another+Ice+Age/article10630.htm) link the cooling to reduced solar activity which they claim is a much larger driver of climate change than man-made greenhouse gases. The dramatic cooling seen in just 12 months time seems to bear that out. While the data doesn't itself disprove that carbon dioxide is acting to warm the planet, it does demonstrate clearly that more powerful factors are now cooling it.
Let's hope those factors stop fast. Cold is more damaging than heat. The mean temperature of the planet is about 54 degrees. Humans -- and most of the crops and animals we depend on -- prefer a temperature closer to 70.

Historically, the warm periods such as the Medieval Climate Optimum were beneficial for civilization. Corresponding cooling events such as the Little Ice Age, though, were uniformly bad news.

[SUPERGILDO43]

Call Al Gore!!!

[OrangeCrush]

I blame SUV drivers

[TwoDogs]

Not possible. According to Al Gore!

[SUPERGILDO43]

I blame SUV drivers

I blame prius drivers.

[old_man]

I figure that since the government is saying global warming is happening,t hat it is a sure thing that things are getting colder.

[Jake_Blues]

One year of record temps (in either direction) =/= trend.

http://data.giss.nasa.gov/gistemp/graphs/Fig.A2.lrg.gif

-E

[Willy36]

I wanna know what was so special about 1945-1975 that made it take a 30-year break. Oh yeah that's right we started producing environmentally-friendly cars such as Chevy Bel-Air with the 502 and Charger/Challenger/Cuda with 426 Hemi, and they saved the planet until some dickhole had to make the Jeep Cherokee in '84 with its 2.5L I4 and 2.8L V6 and pave the way for all those damn SUV's that are gonna bring Armageddon by 2012. :rolleyes:

Ever since I had to do a research project (yes, that's right RESEARCH, not REGURGITATING EVERYTHING THE MEDIA TELLS ME) on global warming in 7th grade (before it become a political flustercuck), I have maintained that it

a)does not pose a threat to quality of life or natural resources
b)has so little man-made influence that it is truly unnoticeable in the grand scheme
c)will correct itself and cause very little climate shift

When someone can provide real evidence to the contrary, I'll change my views. :shrug:

[The Man With The Plan]

The solar activity theory is starting to gain some momentum. I think about it like this: what is the one thing in our weather equation that has the most effect on our temperature? What thing in that equation, that when we simply change the angle of inclination a few degrees, results in the changing of seasons? What thing in that equation for half the day can raise the tempurature up to 50* degrees warmer than the other half of the day?

The Sun.

In recent years, we have been experiencing increased solar activity (solar flares, etc). This has a pretty significant effect on our electrical systems, and our weather. What is going to happen once that phenomenon starts to subside? This solar activity is known to come and go in waves. If we have been near, or at a maximum, what will happen when we approach a minimum?

[sames]

Why the truth and not political BS about GW is critical:

Consumers are exposed to higher costs for food (the ethanol debacle)

Transportation costs soaring which add to the costs of almost everything

commuting to work which for most people is not optional driving, is getting darn expensive

Overreaction to global warming could be the final blow to at least one if not two American auto manufactures costing both current and retired workers their livelihood.

The results of a cause for a few just might be economic devastation to many. It would be in all our interests to be damn sure about this before any more economic harm is done

[GarageWheeler]

Call Al Gore!!!


No need. He already knows he's the one that caused it. Thank you cards are welcome, though.

[Whitey]

It was a cold winter this year. I noticed cause I wore a coat on most days, so, there's the confutable argument.

Hey, it's as sound as any I've heard promoting global warming. :D

[MinesJeep]

I would be glad if we would just let the American auto industry die. We as consumers pay way more because of protectionism. If you look at the cost of protectionism of and bailouts of U.S. auto manufacturs just during the 1980s to the U.S consumer, it would have been equilavent to paying every worker in the industry over $80,000k per year for the last 27 years. Let the dang industry die already.

[SUPERGILDO43]

I would be glad if we would just let the American auto industry die. We as consumers pay way more because of protectionism.

:eek:

[CLYDE]

Wow, I mean, just wow. :( Yeah lets just let the rest of the world have all of our industries, might as well just call it quits now, there is no reason to save anything in this country,, its all doomed anyway right??:rolleyes:

[MinesJeep]

I fail to see how protecting an industry that represents less than 0.75% of GDP in 2006 is valuable to the nation and earned less than 1% of all wages and salaries as being critical to our economy. Its not been a competitive industry since Toyota entered the market why should we continue to sink 100s of millions of dollars in the industry. The auto manufacturing industry consequently employs ~1 million in 2006 so if your concerned about people losing their jobs lets just pay them each directly. General motors lost over $2billion dollars last year alone and 10.5 billion the year before. That would be about $11k per year to each person in the industry for doing absolutely nothing not to bad.

[Pilot]

This is why the socialist greenies are now calling it GLOBAL CLIMATE CHANGE whether the earth warms or cools its still OUR FAULT.


:mad:

[potter]

There was a thread on this posted back on March 1st. The website linked to in that article with the "facts". Is wattsupwiththat.wordpress.com, the personal blog of Anthony Watts. Who is hardcore anti global warming.

I'm going to say the same thing I did in the last thread. If all this were true, and it disproved global warming. It would be listed and talked about throughout the scientific and weather communities. Not simply on a anti global warming weather man's personal blog.

[jredmond]

I think Man-Bear-Pig caused it. Al Gore is my hero he invented the internet and global warming. What could be next

[Budman]

The reason for this downswing in global warming is people buying carbon credits.


The Big 3. They need to compete, or get out. Clyde, while I agree with you for the most part, The US auto makers have not produced cars in the US in a long time. A large percentage of everything from R&d to Production is done overseas. Living here in Korea is very interesting to me as a born and raised GM guy. Ever hear of GM/Daewoo? There are all these cool model sedans running around over here with Dawoo emblems on them. It took me a couple of months to put my finger on it, but they looked familiar. Then It clicked one day as I got into a brand new cab. It was an Impala. Then I saw a Cobalt. Where do you suppose these cars are produced? I can tell you. Right here in the good ole Republic of Korea. Now my next question would be, where are the Impala's and Cobalts Produced? I would be willing to bet that they are produced in the same plants.



The first step for the big three to compete is this. Get rid of the Unions. Move thier plants to non union states that are right to work states. Pay a fair, but not overinflated wage. Imagine if Dodge put a plant in in the town that you grew up in in MO and started paying $15/hour with a small benefits package. How many quality employees would they have lined up at the door? How much would it reduce the price of production of the autos? How many jobs could they bring back to the US?

[LONEWOLF]

The first step for the big three to compete is this. Get rid of the Unions. Move thier plants to non union states that are right to work states. Pay a fair, but not overinflated wage. Imagine if Dodge put a plant in in the town that you grew up in in MO and started paying $15/hour with a small benefits package. How many quality employees would they have lined up at the door? How much would it reduce the price of production of the autos? How many jobs could they bring back to the US?

Well said!

[Dagimp]

You all need to read "state of fear"

[al24]

From this website http://www.dailytech.com/


Why the truth and not political BS about GW is critical:

Consumers are exposed to higher costs for food (the ethanol debacle)

Transportation costs soaring which add to the costs of almost everything

commuting to work which for most people is not optional driving, is getting darn expensive

Overreaction to global warming could be the final blow to at least one if not two American auto manufactures costing both current and retired workers their livelihood.

The results of a cause for a few just might be economic devastation to many. It would be in all our interests to be damn sure about this before any more economic harm is done

Link doesn't lead anywhere. You sux at the internet.
Sooooo you get your facts from someones blog?
:wtf::loco::lmao::spit::laughing:



MAY 25, 2006 - the Day of Destiny!

By Eric Julien - April 11, 2006 .

What will occur on May 25, 2006? Perhaps a planetary catastrophe originating from the Atlantic Ocean due to a medium size impact event. On this assumption, a series of giant waves, including one m?ga tsunami almost two hundred meters in height, will be born from a succession of underwater eruptions. These watery giants, decreasing with distance, will touch the majority of the Atlantic coasts; in particular, those most at risk lie between the equator and the tropic of Cancer. The victims of May 25 2006 will be tens of millions. The devastated survivors will be more numerous still. The economic losses will be enormous, well beyond the scales of destruction hitherto tested by our civilization. North America and Europe will not be saved, but will be affected in less dramatic proportions. By extension, other remote countries will be also affected.





A heavenly object, hardly larger than a truck, but animated by an enormous kinetic energy - its speed will be approximately 40 kilometers/second - will strike the Earth after having crossed the thick atmosphere of 80 kilometers , then the oceanic depths of 1500 meters at this place, to reach and shake the zone of the dorsal the mid-Atlantic rift crossing from North to the South on the Atlantic ocean floor. Currently, tens of underwater volcanoes lie largely dormant, ejecting very small quantities of magma emerging from gigantic chambers. They will break out, heating the sea water to a boiling point. It is the vision that I had approximately three years ago.[i] It happened again on April 7 2006 at 10 pm while I meditated on the shores of the Pacific with two other people. I received information supplementing this vision: the date, MAY 25, 2006 !





The size of this space object will be too small for our telescopes since it will be a small lagging fragment of a comet. Scientists will be surprised by this object, having little time to see it coming, hardly a few dozen hours. This fragment will result most probably from the comet 73P Schwassmann-Wachmann 3[ii] currently designed to pass closest to the Earth on May 14, 2006; a little more than ten million kilometers according to the simulation carried out by NASA.[iii] That is 25 times the distance separating the Earth from the moon.[iv] We see below the position of the comet when it is closest to the Earth according to different angles provided by the NASA simulation.



The last time that this comet passed so close to the Earth by crossing the ecliptic plane was on MAY 25, 1947 ! It is year zero of the UFO era with the famous observations of Kenneth Arnold and the Roswell crash. This comet, which spends five years in a plane orbiting the Earth, moves at its maximum to a distance of 900 million kilometers (more than six times the distance from the Earth to the sun) started to split up for unexplainable reasons in 1995.

Imagine a heavenly object stable for centuries, even for millennia, which mysteriously explodes apart by chance a few months after the launching of the American Star Wars program, intended for an enemy originating from space. This heavenly object [the comet] transforms itself then into a POTENTIAL PLANETARY WEAPON.

Imagine a crop circle showing the solar system, MISSING the EARTH [i] which does not appear on its proper orbit, a few weeks after this fragmentation. Imagine that this crop circle shows the position of the planets corresponding to the date May 14, 2006 ; the date of the closest approach of the comet, with the planet Mars slightly later, to show that the best date is after May 14 contrary to expectations.

Imagine another crop circle a few weeks later indicating the date of September 6, 2003 ; the date on which was received the extraterrestrial world message "Do you wish us to Show Up?" A message spread in several languages around the world, inviting the people of the Earth to peace with extraterrestrials by accepting a public demonstration of their presence.

Imagine that the individual that received this ?World message?, as well as the date of MAY 25, 2006 , also received a scientific solution to the UFO mystery and of the fundamental motivation of the extraterrestrial visitors. Two impenetrable enigmas until the present.

You will then have an idea of what is at stake with this article.



Above is the 1995 crop circle called ?Missing Earth?. It shows the solar system out to the asteroid belt. The Earth is missing in its orbit which, as is illustrated here, is suggesting the extinction of human civilization. The message here cannot be more clear!





Moving now to the date of the planetary simulation for May 14, 2006 ; for centuries the comet Schwassmann-Wachmann has made hundreds of revolutions around the sun while remaining whole. Since the beginning of its fragmentation in 1995, it has made two elliptic revolutions around the sun. This is why the fragments have had time to deviate from/to each other as the photograph below shows. At the time of its passage in 2001, at the same place on the ecliptic, the Earth was almost contrary to its current position. This year 2006, on the other hand, the Earth and the comet coincide in their orbits perfectly. The figures are based on NASA space simulations in this article only show us the largest of the fragments, fragment B, the current count of the known fragments goes to the letter N.

We find today the comet, eleven years after this incomprehensible fragmentation, in an unverifiable state of dispersion. We do not know the exact number of fragments. They are furthermore of variable sizes. The closer the fragmented comet approaches the Earth, there will be more fragments. You can note the distance that separated the two fragments, B and C, February 6, 2006 in the photo below.[i]

see caption

In the same way, eleven days after the closest approach on May 14, 2006 , the comet, or rather fragment B, will cross the ecliptic plane exactly on MAY 25, 2006 ! But the comet travels faster than the Earth, and because it follows a parallel trajectory, any danger will seem isolated. It should be up to seventeen million kilometers in front of the Earth when it crosses the ecliptic path of our planet around the sun.







Sooner or later, one always meets one more extreme than oneself. Better it is then to build peace within our civilization, before it takes-off into space.

After this possible public warning of MAY 25, 2006 , the next projectile could be much larger and infinitely more destructive to the point of eliminating the human race from the surface of the Earth as suggested in the crop circle "Missing Earth". The logic of the highest bidder is extremely likely to took us towards the worst outcome. It is thus now, I believe, we should choose to act! Perhaps you can personally save a few million lives...

[sames]

The real threat to our existence is:

are you ready for this:


Its not pretty:


OMG here it comes:





















































al24 :flipoff2:

[al24]

Whatta ya mean not pretty?





















































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[sames]

Whatta ya mean not pretty?





















































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Warning do not look at al24's gallery Warning Warning :flipoff2:

[al24]

Warning do not look at al24's gallery Warning Warning :flipoff2:

http://www.boston.com/news/globe/ideas/brainiac/Lost_In_Space_robot_body_1_2_2004.jpg

[sames]

hey thats him !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[TheCopperCowboy]

Here comes a little more of that global "cooling" that you haven't any clues about. :rolleyes:

http://news.webindia123.com/news/articles/World/20080326/917526.html

http://news.webindia123.com/news/printer.asp?story=/news/articles/World/20080326/917526.html


News From Webindia123.com
Antartic's huge ice shelf begins to collapse
London | Wednesday, Mar 26 2008 IST


An ice shelf of 5,000 square miles on the Antarctic Peninsula has started to collapse due to Global Warming, scientits claim.

Satellite images from the US National Snow and Ice Data Centre showed rapid disintegration of the Wilkins ice shelf on the western Antarctica. The ice shelf is a broad sheet of permanent floating ice that is located about 1,000 miles south of South America.

The collapse of the shelf had been predicted, but is happening more quickly than expected, scientists said. It is thought the warming of the atmosphere, which has been happening several times faster on the Antarctic Peninsula than the global average, has melted more surface ice, which is weakening the shelf.

''Wilkins is the largest ice shelf on the Antarctic Peninsula yet to be threatened. I didnt expect to see things happen his quickly.

The ice shelf is hanging by a thread, well know in the next few days or weeks what its fate will be,'' prof David Vaughan, of the British Antarctic Survey (BAS) said.

Although the summer melting period in Antarctica is coming to an end, making it unlikely there will be further collapse before next year, Prof Vaughan said a major storm in the coming days could accelerate the disintegration.

''Climate warming has pushed the limit of viability for ice shelves further south - setting some of them that used to be stable on a course of retreat. The Wilkins breakout won't have any effect on sea level because it is floating already but it is another indication of the impact of that climate change,''the Daily Telegraph quoted prof Vaughan as saying.

[Steve]

An ice shelf of 5,000 square miles on the Antarctic Peninsula has started to collapse due to Global Warming, scientits claim.

I don't believe anything scientits say. :spit:

[bsaunder]

I wanna know what was so special about 1945-1975 that made it take a 30-year break. Oh yeah that's right we started producing environmentally-friendly cars such as Chevy Bel-Air with the 502 and Charger/Challenger/Cuda with 426 Hemi, and they saved the planet until some dickhole had to make the Jeep Cherokee in '84 with its 2.5L I4 and 2.8L V6 and pave the way for all those damn SUV's that are gonna bring Armageddon by 2012. :rolleyes:

Ever since I had to do a research project (yes, that's right RESEARCH, not REGURGITATING EVERYTHING THE MEDIA TELLS ME) on global warming in 7th grade (before it become a political flustercuck), I have maintained that it

a)does not pose a threat to quality of life or natural resources
b)has so little man-made influence that it is truly unnoticeable in the grand scheme
c)will correct itself and cause very little climate shift

When someone can provide real evidence to the contrary, I'll change my views. :shrug:

it could also have something to do with the 300+ above ground and atmospheric nuclear tests that we and the USSR conducted...

[bsaunder]

It was a cold winter this year. I noticed cause I wore a coat on most days, so, there's the confutable argument.

Hey, it's as sound as any I've heard promoting global warming. :D

maybe its just because you're getting old and your blood circulation isn't what it used to be - either that or additional chemicals are being used that thinned your blood too much:flipoff2:

[Whitey]

maybe its just because you're getting old and your blood circulation isn't what it used to be - either that or additional chemicals are being used that thinned your blood too much:flipoff2:

Nope. Good blood here, no chemicals, unless you count drinking Canada Dry. :D

One question from an old fart, (Swedish snow bath type), to a younger than me Canuck, how many lower than -10* nights did you spend comfortably in a tent this winter? :flipoff2: