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jeeplvr79
February 26th, 2008, 11:44 AM
What's everyone else's thoughts on this? He hasn't played a game since when? And $5mil just for the rest of the season when his return to ice is uncertain... Granted now, he did used to be a great player... :shrug:

"Foppa" is back!
Avs' quick move lures Forsberg for the remainder of season
By Adrian Dater
The Denver Post
http://www.denverpost.com/breakingnews/ci_8359946


Peter Forsberg will return to the Colorado Avalanche this season. (John Leyba, The Denver Post)
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The Avalanche general manager persuaded the team's prodigal son, Peter Forsberg, to return to Denver. On the day before the NHL trade deadline, Giguere took the hockey world by surprise by signing Forsberg to a prorated, $5 million contract for the rest of this season.

Hard as it is to believe, "Foppa," No. 21, is back.

"I started my career with that franchise, and it feels good to come back," Forsberg said, from his hometown of Ornskoldsvik, Sweden. "I feel great coming back, I have to say that. When you come in as a 20-year-old and play for 10 years with the same franchise, it's a special place for me."

It all came

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as a surprise because Forsberg's agent, Don Baizley, said last week that Forsberg's balky right ankle likely would prevent him from playing this season. Monday, Forsberg said he believes he has overcome the problem.
"I've spoken more to my doctor lately, and he gives me a very positive outlook," Forsberg said. "With him saying that, and just how I've been progressing on the ice, that made my decision."

Avs captain Joe Sakic was glad to hear it.

"It was always tough to see him in another uniform," Sakic said. "He's back in Denver, where he belongs. I didn't have to make any (recruiting) call to him. There's no sell to Denver."

The story of Forsberg's return ? and what happens from here ? is a bit complicated. An Avs official said late Monday night that Forsberg might join the team today in Calgary, where the Avs play tonight. Forsberg, who has missed all season with foot and hernia injuries, will not play against the Flames, nor at Vancouver on Wednesday. When Forsberg will make his return to the ice remains uncertain.

"There's no timetable," said Forsberg, 34. "But, I know the situation: They're a couple of points behind in the playoff (chase), so it's not like I'm going to not try and get back in

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What do you think of Peter Forsberg returning to the Colorado Avalanche this season? (Read the story.)
Love it: Super Joe and Foppa reunited! Are you kidding me?! Watch out, NHL!
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Loathe it: Forsberg is prone to injury and well beyond his prime.
Don't get it: Forget the glory years; Avs should focus on developing young talent.


the lineup as soon as I can. It would be hard. I've got to be honest, I don't think I could come back and practice Friday and play Saturday ? just have one practice and go back into the NHL. But I'm definitely aiming at as soon as I can."
Forsberg's return happened quickly.

"We didn't even start talking with Colorado until (Monday) morning. I got a call from Francois (on Sunday) night, and didn't return it 'til the next morning," Baizley said. "A little while later, we had a contract."

Giguere, who might not be done making deals before today's 1 p.m. deadline, had one major selling point in his pitch to Forsberg:

"I thought his risk was smaller coming back here, because he established such a great legacy here and that

Forsberg: "I started my career with that franchise, and it feels good to come back." (Getty Images file)no matter what happens moving forward, that legacy is going to stand," Giguere said. "I know the standards that Peter sets for himself, and if Peter is saying he's comfortable that he can come back and play effectively, there's no doubt in my mind that he can."
After the signing, the Avs immediately heralded season-ticket holders with recorded calls announcing Forsberg's return and extending their deadline to purchase playoff tickets to Wednesday.

"I never gave up on my career," Forsberg said. "People call me crazy, for all these comebacks and things, but I love playing hockey. I miss playing hockey, and it's hard sitting on the sidelines when I think I can go out and play and still perform well."

OrangeCrush
February 26th, 2008, 11:49 AM
picked him up in my fantasy team yesterday

WhtJeep
February 26th, 2008, 11:49 AM
waste of money.

TwoDogs
February 26th, 2008, 11:51 AM
Meh :shrug:

Pilot
February 26th, 2008, 11:55 AM
He should have been a Flyer from the beginning. That stupid deal for Eric Lindross and all that Quebec Nordiques nonsense. The Avs got the Cups and the Flyers got one Cup Final appearance and got swept. DOH!

Oscar
February 26th, 2008, 11:57 AM
Nobody wants to be a flyer geez :flipoff2:

1973CJ5
February 26th, 2008, 11:58 AM
While he was an amazing player in his prime, I doubt he is the same player now. $5 Mil for a ????? seems pretty steep to me.

Oscar
February 26th, 2008, 12:01 PM
actually going to get 1 mill as it is prorated

Pilot
February 26th, 2008, 12:01 PM
Nobody wants to be a flyer geez :flipoff2:

They did '73 - '76, but that was like what, two centuries ago? :flipoff2:

The Flyers started to suck when the NHL changed the rules to stop bench clearing brawls, and hockey was never the same. :rolleyes:

Oscar
February 26th, 2008, 12:13 PM
that when they still played outside on ponds right

Cresso
February 26th, 2008, 12:14 PM
As has been said by many hockey analysts, the only possible loser here is Forsberg himself, in terms of damaging his legacy. 1 mil for a point-per-game player through the playoffs would be a bargain. Even if he's only a shadow of his old self, he's still as good as the minor leaguers the Avs have been relying on for the past month. Since the Avs didn't need to give up anything to get him, the absolute worst case for the Avs is that he'll sit on the bench. Hell, Theodore did that all last season for a heck of a lot more than 1 million. There's really no downside for the team, here.

OrangeCrush
February 26th, 2008, 12:15 PM
Foote coming back now too

jeeplvr79
February 26th, 2008, 12:35 PM
Foote coming back now too

:thumbsup:

WhtJeep
February 26th, 2008, 01:11 PM
is Roy planning coming out of retirement too?

Thats just crazy if foote comes back

Pilot
February 26th, 2008, 01:19 PM
is Roy planning coming out of retirement too?


No, but Ron Hextall is though!


that when they still played outside on ponds right

:flipoff2: Don't you have any magnetic compasses to swing?

Oscar
February 26th, 2008, 01:41 PM
No compass rose is broken

Cresso
February 26th, 2008, 01:43 PM
Foote coming back now too

Columbus dumped Federov for more youth, too. The Blue Jackets are gonna be the team to beat in 3-5 years with all those young players they're picking up. They're where Ottawa was in the mid 90s and Tampa Bay was in the late 90s. Hopefully they can reap the benefits before Nash burns out. That guy deserves more credit than he gets right now. He's as entertaining to watch as Ovechkin, if you ask me.

oops, sorry. forgot this is avalanche territory. go avs.

MinesJeep
February 26th, 2008, 01:54 PM
Ditto on Nash being good, but at least the AVS made some awesome moves at the deadline, I didn't think they would do much with Statsny, Smith and Sakic all coming back from injury. We were dang hard to beat when all 3 were playing, add foote to the mix and forsberg, I think we got one heck of a run on top of the division coming.

Natron
February 26th, 2008, 01:56 PM
As has been said by many hockey analysts, the only possible loser here is Forsberg himself, in terms of damaging his legacy. 1 mil for a point-per-game player through the playoffs would be a bargain. Even if he's only a shadow of his old self, he's still as good as the minor leaguers the Avs have been relying on for the past month. Since the Avs didn't need to give up anything to get him, the absolute worst case for the Avs is that he'll sit on the bench. Hell, Theodore did that all last season for a heck of a lot more than 1 million. There's really no downside for the team, here.

Completely agree. Forsberg brings so many aspects to the team beside his playing ability, which is probably nowhere of what it used to be but then again his 70% is probably still better than half the guys in the league. Just his presence on the ice and the locker room will be a huge boost to a team that was on the brink of missing the playoffs two years in a row.

I don't know how you can say that the move is a bad one. Just having his name associated in this town again has created a buzz around hockey which has been missing since pre-lockout. That is huge in itself. Remember this building was sold out for 10 years straight, not saying it will get back to that with just him coming back but his name reminds people of those times.

Say he has enough to push us to the playoffs and with the help of Sakic, Smyth and Stastny back and healthy again and Foote coming back to an injury depleted defense, the organization will make a very profitable return on their investment. Unless we can?t win with him????..

MinesJeep
February 26th, 2008, 02:00 PM
The atmosphere alone in the arena should be crazy with foote back, hopefully the team can feed off that energy.

jdogg4
February 26th, 2008, 04:33 PM
I'm more happy about Foot coming back than PF.
I think we need that grit that foot has in the Defencive end. PF was a great player and still could be if he could make a full season with out any major problem keeping him out like he has the last few years. He's always a guy you have to keep an eye open on.

Saw more that just because we signed him doesn't mean he will play. It just means that if he is up to par and good to go at his say so then he will play. Other wise at this point we just know we have him as an option and he is available to play.

MinesJeep
February 26th, 2008, 07:47 PM
Foote is gonna be on the bench tonight thats sweet.

Yucca-Man
February 27th, 2008, 09:49 AM
Foote is gonna be on the bench tonight thats sweet.Gawd, the gals at work were DROOLING with the Foote coverage...jump on a plane, get a police escort to the arena, suit up and surprise the kiddies when ya sit next to 'em on the bench...the Win was a nice homecoming gift!

I wonder if the Calgary Mounties are kicking themselves for getting him to the arena so quickly? :D

jdogg4
February 27th, 2008, 12:57 PM
I was in the middle of eating dinner and watching the game last night when they showed foot coming out of the locker room. I was so pumped up over that I got up and was at the couch watching it couldn't sit still, and for got about the rest of my dinner. the dog just about ate half my fila of salmon I made last night. She got my wild rice.

scottycards
February 27th, 2008, 12:59 PM
I guess all those empty seats in the Pepsi Center got someone's attention, and they decided to open up the purse strings.

I dumped my Avs season tix (and a great priority number) after last year. I originally got my tix the first year they were here, back at McNichol's arena, when we beat FL for the first Cup.

Good to see part of the team come back.

jdogg4
February 27th, 2008, 01:06 PM
They had the ceo of kronkie SP? sports on last night and he said they only have 178 seats open pergame and that the phones were going off the hook as of monday to buy up those remaining seats.

I have a really good feeling that they will be going deep into the playoffs.

jnschwie
February 27th, 2008, 01:12 PM
I wonder if the Calgary Mounties are kicking themselves for getting him to the arena so quickly? :D

:laughing:

It was a nice game last night. It'll be interesting to see if they can pull together a little win streak and maybe make the playoffs. :)

jdogg4
February 27th, 2008, 01:18 PM
:laughing:

It was a nice game last night. It'll be interesting to see if they can pull together a little win streak and maybe make the playoffs. :)

O they will. :thumbsup:

Leon Phelps
February 27th, 2008, 01:19 PM
I guess all those empty seats in the Pepsi Center got someone's attention, and they decided to open up the purse strings.

I dumped my Avs season tix (and a great priority number) after last year. I originally got my tix the first year they were here, back at McNichol's arena, when we beat FL for the first Cup.

Good to see part of the team come back.

Single game & season ticket prices are insane. You are now about the 10th or 11th person I've heard say to hell with my season tickets.

Waifer2112
February 27th, 2008, 01:21 PM
I have a really good feeling that they will be going deep into the playoffs.

I haven't been following too closely this year, but I don't think they have good enough goal tending to get very far. :shrug:

jdogg4
February 27th, 2008, 01:33 PM
I haven't been following too closely this year, but I don't think they have good enough goal tending to get very far. :shrug:

I don't think goal tending has been the problem. The D has been shakey at times. If they get caught off guard or in a odd man rush they do stupid stuff more than they should and when your 4 on 4 or 5 on 5 you should never have a guy just camping on the open net side to pop in an easy goal.
our D. if more offencive minded except for a few guys. I think foot and salie are the stay at home keep those guys out of the goal area players that forwards don't like to go up against. When both of these guys set in the next few games the face of the D is going to change big time.

on a side note just saw this on espn.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nhl/news/story?id=3267371


Our d really was doing stupid stuff. Rule of thumb for a D player is if one of your guys goes down to block a shot or a pass your D partner stays up. the game with edm and phx both we would have two to 3 guys sliding to block shots then they just walked in on us and scored????? this is like the basics you learn when you've been playing for a few years. I just don't get this.

MinesJeep
February 27th, 2008, 02:38 PM
Agree, the offense and goal tending have been our two strongest points all season. Beefing up the defense and the return of the offensive stars, should jump start the PP and ease some of the pressure on the goaltending.

scottycards
February 27th, 2008, 02:50 PM
Single game & season ticket prices are insane. You are now about the 10th or 11th person I've heard say to hell with my season tickets.

Back in the first season, we were like 4 rows from the top. Seats were 10 bucks each.

We were still upper deck last year, not quite the cheapest seats, but IIRC, they were up to like $38 each. Times two seats, $76, times 42 games. 3 grand is ridiculous- then you get to pay for the super jacked up pricey playoff games. And they want your money 9 months in advance, blah, blah, blah........what a bunch of BS.

When they were winning, it was easy to get rid of tix, or share my season with someone. Not so much since the strike, so I bagged it.

For reference- we have Broncos season tix. Front row of the balcony- great seats. They are $50 a seat, so the whole season is a whopping $800, and the quality of the show is MUCH BETTER, and much more fun.

jeeplvr79
February 27th, 2008, 02:51 PM
now they just need Klemm & Miller back

jdogg4
February 27th, 2008, 03:02 PM
Back in the first season, we were like 4 rows from the top. Seats were 10 bucks each.

We were still upper deck last year, not quite the cheapest seats, but IIRC, they were up to like $38 each. Times two seats, $76, times 42 games. 3 grand is ridiculous- then you get to pay for the super jacked up pricey playoff games. And they want your money 9 months in advance, blah, blah, blah........what a bunch of BS.

When they were winning, it was easy to get rid of tix, or share my season with someone. Not so much since the strike, so I bagged it.

For reference- we have Broncos season tix. Front row of the balcony- great seats. They are $50 a seat, so the whole season is a whopping $800, and the quality of the show is MUCH BETTER, and much more fun.

per game a better deal maybe but they only play 8 some home games?

But yes hockey ticket prices are nuts for how many games they play it should be less. They say it's because of the cost of running and keeping that place open. Ok then why do the mammoth games cost so little? compaird to hockey and Bball?

jdogg4
February 27th, 2008, 03:03 PM
now they just need Klemm & Miller back

Na those two guys game is over. I did like them, but they didn't fit into the "NEW" nhl. I think miller was playing as a winger from defence to winger with some team for a bit because of injuries.

scottycards
February 27th, 2008, 03:14 PM
per game a better deal maybe but they only play 8 some home games?

But yes hockey ticket prices are nuts for how many games they play it should be less. They say it's because of the cost of running and keeping that place open. Ok then why do the mammoth games cost so little? compaird to hockey and Bball?

I'm not a big Stan Kronke fan. One year, we decided to do Club Level. Those douchebags forced us to buy Nuggets tickets to get on Club Level. I think that year the Avs won the Cup with Borque, and the Nuggets won like 14 games all year. I distinctly remember I couldn't give away my Lakers club level seats........not even for free.

So when I told them I was dropping out of the season tix thing, they asked why. I said your product on the ice sucks, and I'd do it for half price, no more, since they were going to win about half as many games. Needless to say, the dude wasn't impressed with my proposal. I enjoyed the conversation, however..........:D

jdogg4
February 27th, 2008, 03:49 PM
ON ice they've only had one season since being in Colorado that they didn't make the playoffs and that was last year. If you look at the 30 teams to make it 10 years in a row is a strong run at the playoffs. Not that many teams can say that they?ve made it to the play offs 10 years in a row.

I think that?s crap to make you buy tickets to one sporting event just to get good seats to another? Total crap. I?m not a fan of B-ball so why should I pay to get seats to something I don?t want to watch.

I?m not a fan of Stan Kronke myself. He knows how to make money and fill those seats and get away with double talk and people fall for it. I can?t afford season tickets down there. We have the Colorado eagles and season tickets are much cheaper 5 bucks for parking and your only ever 100 yards or less from the front doors for parking easy in easy out not much traffic. For an 18 dollar seat your right up on the rink. Now the only gripe I have about that place is beer. The place is called the Budweiser event center so you think you could get a good beer for cheap right. NOooooooooooo. Well when they first opened the beer was in big cups and only like 4 bucks now it?s like 5 something and the cups are smaller?
Going to that game tonight as a matter of fact.

Natron
February 27th, 2008, 05:13 PM
So when I told them I was dropping out of the season tix thing, they asked why. I said your product on the ice sucks, and I'd do it for half price, no more, since they were going to win about half as many games. Needless to say, the dude wasn't impressed with my proposal. I enjoyed the conversation, however..........

Having worked for the Avs since before the lockout I have had quite a few conversations that went this way when I was in the season ticket services side of things. It is tough trying to convince someone to renew their seats when you are also a fan of the team but don't agree with decisions that "higher ups" make either on prices or direction of the team. Puts you in a tough situation over the phone because you try to stay strong with whoever you are talking with but really all you want to do is agree with them.

As for the team right now, I am really happy with the beef up of the blue line and hopefully with Finger and Clark coming back in March sometime that will just add more depth to our D. Goaltending hasn't been as bad as last year and with the base of our offense back from injury we should be able to make a run to the playoffs and possible the division lead, only 5 points back.

Should make for an instresting last month and excited to have Foote back on the ice and maybe a Forsberg sighting here and there.

scottycards
February 27th, 2008, 05:17 PM
I sometimes wonder if the Avs have a similar problem with goaltending that the Broncos have with quarterbacks.

Once you've seen Patty Roy in there, and won a couple of cups, or seen Elway behind center and a couple of Lombardi trophies, it's tough to watch anyone else play, much less give them a break when they fail to live up to the level of performance those two greats set.

Natron
February 27th, 2008, 05:35 PM
I sometimes wonder if the Avs have a similar problem with goaltending that the Broncos have with quarterbacks.

Once you've seen Patty Roy in there, and won a couple of cups, or seen Elway behind center and a couple of Lombardi trophies, it's tough to watch anyone else play, much less give them a break when they fail to live up to the level of performance those two greats set.

Wouldn't doubt it at all. When Roy would give up 3 or more goals you were shocked but when Theodore or Budja does, it's just another game for them.

Tough going from the best goaltender in history to 2 good/average goalies.

Cresso
February 27th, 2008, 07:05 PM
Colorado fans are gonna have a tough time letting go of Sakic, too. The man defies physics, both with his skills and his longevity. A lot of people are calling Stastny the next Sakic. Those are BIG shoes to fill. I think players in general have a better chance of living up to their full potential if they don't get that kind of pressure put on them. The game pressure alone is enough.

MinesJeep
February 27th, 2008, 08:43 PM
Goal tending has always been a problem under Quenville. I'm from St. Louis and his worst aspect as a coach has always been goal tending. He's seemed to be better this year about switching Budai and Jose only when one was hurt, but he's never been a fan of having a number 1 goalie and the other guy is just a backup. I think that atmosphere creates a "goalie controversy" over whose the number one and leads to breakdowns in the goaltenders mind. Defensively Quenville has always been tops in the league.

jnschwie
February 27th, 2008, 08:49 PM
Colorado fans are gonna have a tough time letting go of Sakic, too. The man defies physics, both with his skills and his longevity. A lot of people are calling Stastny the next Sakic. Those are BIG shoes to fill. I think players in general have a better chance of living up to their full potential if they don't get that kind of pressure put on them. The game pressure alone is enough.


Sad when players can't be themselves.

Leon Phelps
February 28th, 2008, 08:15 AM
Back in the first season, we were like 4 rows from the top. Seats were 10 bucks each.

We were still upper deck last year, not quite the cheapest seats, but IIRC, they were up to like $38 each. Times two seats, $76, times 42 games. 3 grand is ridiculous- then you get to pay for the super jacked up pricey playoff games. And they want your money 9 months in advance, blah, blah, blah........what a bunch of BS.

When they were winning, it was easy to get rid of tix, or share my season with someone. Not so much since the strike, so I bagged it.

For reference- we have Broncos season tix. Front row of the balcony- great seats. They are $50 a seat, so the whole season is a whopping $800, and the quality of the show is MUCH BETTER, and much more fun.

About to plop down for two Bronco's season this year myself, still a hell of a lot more fun for me than the Avs games. Plus the two strikes inside of 10 years was a bit much, even for me, and I grew up as a Redwings fan, been a Kings fan for years.

People wonder why I go to so many DU games. Your take on it is exacally why I do it. I can still enjoy the game, spend a LOT less money.