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osue077
February 24th, 2008, 06:11 PM
I am not an alarmist but I am surrounded by people that "love" Barak Heusein Obama and none of them know about their adjendas other than "change" Why has the major news outlet not covered the racist views of The Trinity United Church of Christ that the Barak family has been members of since 1991 and the ties of the church leaders to having muslim terrorist buddies in Libya. Those of you that "love" Barak Obama, you might look into this. And not to mention Michelle Obama's Thesis from Princeton U. Definitely something worth reading if you have time.

starbreaker666
February 24th, 2008, 06:14 PM
Been reading abou this little "Church" for a long time... Do some googling on the Rev. Jeramiah wright(SP) not sure if I spelled his name right or not. A vote for Obama is a vote for kill whitey? could be...

osue077
February 24th, 2008, 06:23 PM
Thats what I am seeing.

CannonBall
February 24th, 2008, 06:46 PM
When did princeton release her thesis, last I heard (last week) they weren't going to release it until after the election.
-Nate
wow, just searched, feb 22 politico.com posted it I guess, crazy.

89minitruck
February 24th, 2008, 09:09 PM
His old lady makes Hillary look "almost" tolerable...

starbreaker666
February 24th, 2008, 09:11 PM
Trinity Church of christ's 2007 man of the year type award goes to....???

Luis Farrahkhan!!! YAY!!! sheesh!

jnschwie
February 25th, 2008, 12:27 PM
BTT for B. Hussein.

SUPERGILDO43
February 25th, 2008, 12:30 PM
BTT for B. Hussein.

haha, thats a sad tactic to hide behind!!!

ill look into this but it sounds like tinfoil hat stuff...

jnschwie
February 25th, 2008, 12:37 PM
haha, thats a sad tactic to hide behind!!!


What tactic?

I want to learn. Tell me about the thesis.

SUPERGILDO43
February 25th, 2008, 12:37 PM
BTT for B. Hussein? come on :rolleyes:

jnschwie
February 25th, 2008, 12:39 PM
BTT for B. Hussein? come on :rolleyes:

WTF are you talking about?

Are you going to tell me about the thesis or not?

Gags
February 25th, 2008, 12:59 PM
Well Mitt Romney was part of an organization that officially racist until the
70's.

I just don't see "kill Whitey" in Obama anywhere.

jnschwie
February 25th, 2008, 01:01 PM
Ah yes, retort by retaliation.

SUPERGILDO43
February 25th, 2008, 01:02 PM
WTF are you talking about?

Are you going to tell me about the thesis or not?

when did I say i was going to tell you about the thesis?

I love how people get use a name as a reason to show someone is out to get us.

ooooo, his middle name is hussein!! lets point that out because it matters :rolleyes:

DaJudge
February 25th, 2008, 01:03 PM
http://images.politico.com/global/politico_print2.gif (http://www.politico.com/)Michelle

Obama thesis was on racial divide
By: Jeffrey Ressner
February 23, 2008 09:51 AM EST

Michelle Obama's senior year thesis at Princeton University, obtained from
the campaign by Politico, shows a document written by a young woman
grappling with a society in which a black Princeton alumnus might only be
allowed to remain "on the periphery." Read the full thesis here:
Part 1 (http://www.politico.com/pdf/080222_MOPrincetonThesis_1-251.pdf), Part (http://www.politico.com/pdf/080222_MOPrincetonThesis_26-501.pdf)2, Part 3 (http://www.politico.com/pdf/080222_MOPrincetonThesis_51-751.pdf), Part 4 (http://dyn.politico.com/pdf/080222_MOPrincetonThesis_76-981.pdf).

"My experiences at Princeton have made me far more aware of my
'blackness' than ever before," the future Mrs. Obama wrote in her thesis
introduction. "I have found that at Princeton, no matter how liberal and
open-minded some of my white professors and classmates try to be toward
me, I sometimes feel like a visitor on campus; as if I really don't belong.
Regardless of the circumstances underwhich I interact with whites at
Princeton, it often seems as if, to them, I will always be black first and a
student second."

The thesis, titled "Princeton-Educated Blacks and the Black Community" and
written under her maiden name, Michelle LaVaughn Robinson, in 1985, has
been the subject of much conjecture on the blogosphere and elsewhere in
recent weeks, as it has been "temporarily withdrawn" from Princeton's
library until after this year's presidential election in November. Some of the
material has been written about previously, however, including a story last
year in the Newark Star Ledger.

Obama writes that the path she chose by attending Princeton would likely
lead to her "further integration and/or assimilation into a white cultural and
social structure that will only allow me to remain on the periphery of
society; never becoming a full participant."

During a presidential contest in which the term "transparency" has been
frequently bandied about, candidates have buried a number of potentially
revealing documents and papers. In Hillary Rodham Clinton's case, there's
been a clamoring for tax records, White House memos and other material
the candidate's team has chosen to keep from release. The 96-page
Princeton thesis, restricted from release by the school's Mudd Library, has
also been the subject of recent scrutiny.

Earlier this week, commentator Jonah Goldberg remarked on National Review
Online, "A reader in the know informs me that Michelle Obama's thesis ... is
unavailable until Nov. 5, 2008, at the Princeton library. I wonder why."

"Why a restricted thesis?" asked blogger-pastor Louis Lapides on his site
Thinking Outside the Blog. "Is the concern based on what's in the thesis?
Will Michelle Obama appear to be too black for white America or not black
enough for black America?"

Attempts to retrieve the document through Princeton proved unsuccessful,
with school librarians having been pestered so much for access to the
thesis that they have resorted to reading from a script when callers inquire
about it. Media officers at the prestigious university were similarly unhelpful,
claiming it is "not unusual" for a thesis to be restricted and refusing to
discuss "the academic work of alumni."

The Obama campaign, however, quickly responded to a request for the
thesis by Politico. The thesis offers several fascinating insights into the
mind of Michelle Obama, who has been a passionate advocate of her
husband's presidential aspirations and who has made several controvesial
statements, including this week's remark, "For the first time in my adult
lifetime, I am really proud of my country." That comment has fueled debate
on countless blogs, radio talk shows and cable news for days on end,
causing her to explain the statement in greater detail.

The 1985 thesis provides a trove of Michelle Obama's thoughts as a young
woman, with many of the paper's statements describing the student's world
as seen through a race-based prism.

"In defining the concept of identification or the ability to identify with the
black community," the Princeton student wrote, "I based my definition on
the premise that there is a distinctive black culture very different from
white culture." Other thesis statements specifically pointed to what was
seen by the future Mrs. Obama as racially insensitive practices in a
university system populated with mostly Caucasian educators and students:
"Predominately white universities like Princeton are socially and academically
designed to cater to the needs of the white students comprising the bulk of
their enrollments."

To illustrate the latter statement, she pointed out that Princeton (at the
time) had only five black tenured professors on its faculty, and its "Afro-
American studies" program "is one of the smallest and most understaffed
departments in the university." In addition, she said only one major
university-recognized group on campus was "designed specifically for the
intellectual and social interests of blacks and other third world
students." (Her findings also stressed that Princeton was "infamous for
being racially the most conservative of the Ivy League universities.")

Perhaps one of the most germane subjects approached in the thesis is a
section in which she conveyed views about political relations between black
and white communities. She quotes the work of sociologists James Conyers
and Walter Wallace, who discussed "integration of black official(s) into
various aspects of politics" and notes "problems which face these black
officials who must persuade the white community that they are above
issues of race and that they are representing all people and not just black
people," as opposed to creating "two separate social structures."

To research her thesis, the future Mrs. Obama sent an 18-question survey
to a sampling of 400 black Princeton graduates, requesting the respondents
define the amount of time and "comfort" level spent interacting with blacks
and whites before they attended the school, as well as during and after
their University years. Other questions dealt with their individual religious
beliefs, living arrangements, careers, role models, economic status, and
thoughts about lower class blacks. In addition, those surveyed were asked
to choose whether they were more in line with a "separationist and/or
pluralist" viewpoint or an "integrationist and/or assimilationist" ideology.

Just under 90 alums responded to the questionnaires (for a response rate of
approximately 22 percent) and the conclusions were not what she
expected. "I hoped that these findings would help me conclude that despite
the high degree of identification with whites as a result of the educational
and occupational path that black Princeton alumni follow, the alumni would
still maintain a certain level of identification with the black community.
However, these findings do not support this possibility."

TM & ? THE POLITICO & POLITICO.COM, a division of Allbritton
Communications Company

jnschwie
February 25th, 2008, 01:06 PM
when did I say i was going to tell you about the thesis?

I love how people get use a name as a reason to show someone is out to get us.

ooooo, his middle name is hussein!! lets point that out because it matters :rolleyes:

Uh, yeah. It is his given name. Don't like it? Not my fault.

And I suppose you'd LOVE it if I name called.

Yeppers, catch-22: The theme of Obama's hope. Criticize me, and you are a racist. :rolleyes:





Edit: Thanks, judge. :)
:beer:

SUPERGILDO43
February 25th, 2008, 01:11 PM
Uh, yeah. It is his given name. Don't like it? Not my fault.

And I suppose you'd LOVE it if I name called.

Yeppers, catch-22: The theme of Obama's hope. Criticize me, and you are a racist. :rolleyes:

??

if you are on the "OMG HIS MIDDLE NAME IS HUSSEIN... LIKE SADDAM!!!" bandwagon, then youve lost wuite a bit of respect from me. I hope youre not, but I see that as the only reason to blatantly highlight that his middle name is hussein...


P.S. were you looking for the thesis? so far from what I have read its nothing worthy of alarm...

jnschwie
February 25th, 2008, 01:13 PM
??

if you are on the "OMG HIS MIDDLE NAME IS HUSSEIN... LIKE SADDAM!!!" bandwagon, then youve lost wuite a bit of respect from me. I hope youre not, but I see that as the only reason to blatantly highlight that his middle name is hussein...


P.S. were you looking for the thesis? so far from what I have read its nothing worthy of alarm...

Hmm.

I wonder if there were any other presidents or presidential candidates known primarily by a middle name. Think, Josh, think!

SUPERGILDO43
February 25th, 2008, 01:16 PM
Hmm.

I wonder if there were any other presidents or presidential candidates known primarily by a middle name. Think, Josh, think!


Ah yes, retort by retaliation.

:tisk:

jnschwie
February 25th, 2008, 01:17 PM
Not so.

I love Dubya. I wish we could elect him again.

SUPERGILDO43
February 25th, 2008, 01:20 PM
how is dubya a subconcious reference to a negative middle eastern icon??

jnschwie
February 25th, 2008, 01:24 PM
how is dubya a subconcious reference to a negative middle eastern icon??

It is not. If you read a "subconcious reference to a negative middle eastern icon" maybe it is YOU that has a "subconcious" problem. I am using a name his parents gave him.

Retaliation is the two wrongs make a right argument. I like both nicknames, neither are derogatory, since guess what, THEY ARE LEGAL NAMES, and I'll use them.

In either case, if you've hopped on his socialist (communist?) bandwagon, "then youve lost wuite a bit of respect from me. I hope youre not"

but I dun really care. :)

SUPERGILDO43
February 25th, 2008, 01:26 PM
so youve decided to choose his middle name, which people are RARELY referred to specifaclly as, for what reason then? I am sure you have a good reason why you decide to use anything other than what the person is LARGELY reffered to...

who knows, maybe youre just a rebel! fight the power josh!

jnschwie
February 25th, 2008, 01:27 PM
so youve decided to choose his middle name, which people are RARELY referred to specifaclly as, for what reason then?

It seems to be the hotness in politicians of late.



Edit: His name really seems to be burrowing under your skin though. You should look into that. It is probably unhealthy.

SUPERGILDO43
February 25th, 2008, 01:31 PM
It seems to be the hotness in politicians of late.



Edit: His name really seems to be burrowing under your skin though. You should look into that. It is probably unhealthy.

lol :shrug:

:rolleyes:

jnschwie
February 25th, 2008, 01:33 PM
Well, you clearly have a bigger problem with it than anyone else does. B. Hussein included.

SUPERGILDO43
February 25th, 2008, 01:34 PM
yup. huge problem. thanks for diagnosing me dr.freud.

jnschwie
February 25th, 2008, 01:40 PM
Dr. Freud?!?

Whoa! Who said anything about that?