ANOTHER Hit and Run On My Fence

[DaJudge]

Some asshat going too fast from S/B Buckley to E/B Yale slid in the snow up over the curb, across the sidewalk, and into my privacy fence.lThey took out 6-8' of fence--not enough to exceed the deductible on my homeowners insurance--so it is out of my pocket AGAIN. Grrrr! This is the 5th one in 24 months.

[Conrad]

put a sign up "Smile youre on camera" on the fence....

[Colin]

That or reinforce the fence with steel so they won't be driving away....

[Dotcom]

i was going to suggest some of those cement filled metal poles they put around gas pumps, make it impossible for them to drive away

[JR4X]

My grandma used to have her mail box ran over 3 or 4 times a year. My dad thought people were doing it on purpose so he built a mail box stand that wieghed about 400 punds. The next car that hit the box was still there when grandma woke up. Never got wacked again.

[JeepWheelin02]

I agree, put up some metal poles set it cement. Make sure it dmages their vehicle so the perps will be there after it happens and then they will have to pay to fix your fence.

[lgtxj]

Or a large "landscaping" boulder on the inside of the fence

[Oscar]

Land Mines?

[LONEWOLF]

Or a large "landscaping" boulder on the inside of the fence

X2 we do this alot to help protect fences, houses etc and it doesn't ruin the landscape as an eye sore. Except I would see what kind of easement (sp) you have and put it on the outside, otherwords they will hit the rock instead of your fence. If you have none then try to talking to the city about putting one there.

[JeepWheelin02]

Land Mines?

Trip-wired claymores might work better.

[satan]

Hey Al, I have a bundle of 2.25dia tube cut ends

Could easily be arranged with 20* baloney cuts as a "decorative flower holder" or "landscape border" ... ;) Just sayin...


... and if you need a hand doing the labor part - I have two to lend!

[xjmatt]

I lived in South West Indiana for a bit when i was a kid and I remember some of the local high school kids from time to time would come flying down the country road in their 'Muddin' trucks and take out mailboxes. A neighbor a couple houses up (which was about 1/2-3/4 a mile away) got sick and tired of it and brought home a burned up auger bit (6-8" diameter steel) from work and set it in concrete and bolted the mailbox to the top.

Sure enough couple days later he had a wrecked truck stuck on his mailbox post and a couple SORRY looking high school kids in his kitchen calling home to have their parents come pick them up, never had a problem again. Funny part was they never did find the mailbox. Must have sheared off on impact and flew so far into the woods or where ever that it never did turn up.

[Dave McDonald]

Neighbor of mine has a split rail cedar fence right on the road. It used to be down more than it was up. Now it's always there. If you look real close, every single post is now bolted to a 30" high I beam set in concrete. The first one is a little bent, and I heard rumors of a broken snowplow at the beginning of the winter.

[Gunter]

Some asshat going too fast from S/B Buckley to E/B Yale slid in the snow up over the curb, across the sidewalk, and into my privacy fence.lThey took out 6-8' of fence--not enough to exceed the deductible on my homeowners insurance--so it is out of my pocket AGAIN. Grrrr! This is the 5th one in 24 months.
you need a camera on it.
put big steel poles behind the wood fence or big boulders so they are more seriously damaged and cant drive off.
that or land mines!

[Dave McDonald]

you need a camera on it.
put big steel poles behind the wood fence and big boulders so they are more seriously damaged and cant drive off.
that and land mines!

Fixed it for ya there... Go watch Schoolhouse Rock, Conjunction Junction again - I think yer a little confused :)

[jeepingpete]

Doesn't the city clear the snow?

[DaJudge]

Doesn't the city clear the snow?
On the street-yes. On the sidewalk--no.

[XJeep95]

time to implement the moat.

[salsashark]

My back yard is up against Tower/Reservoir... I'm waiting for the day that I have a car in my back yard as well.

I'm liking the bollard idea though... I may need to plant a few of those along with the trees next spring :)

[TwoDogs]

Al, us "tank traps", like the Germans used on the beaches at Normandy.
You could make'em smaller, so they get caught up under whatever drives over them. BTW: Hey Vandals!!!! :flipoff:

[denverd0n]

I agree, put up some metal poles set it cement. Make sure it dmages their vehicle so the perps will be there after it happens and then they will have to pay to fix your fence.
So I'm curious. If you did something like this, and they got hurt, what would your liability be? I'm thinking that, especially if it is obviously something that was ONLY put their to protect the fence (as opposed to, for instance, landscape boulders), you could be opening yourself up for a big lawsuit.

Of course, I'm not the one who finished law school here!

[spacely]

Or a large "landscaping" boulder on the inside of the fence

that's what a guy in my neighborhood did when some kids took out his fence and tree...there's like 3 boulders there now!

[Suki]

eesh, that was/is a major concern for us also, our backyard is on Quincy Ave and there are always idiots speeding through. Not long after we bought the house, there was an accident, if the guy had swerved right instead of left he would have taken out our neighbors fence.

When we get around to re-fencing the rest of the yard, we're going to look into having some re-inforcment put in.

Sorry to hear of it happening AGAIN, ick.

[salsashark]

eesh, that was/is a major concern for us also, our backyard is on Quincy Ave and there are always idiots speeding through. Not long after we bought the house, there was an accident, if the guy had swerved right instead of left he would have taken out our neighbors fence.

When we get around to re-fencing the rest of the yard, we're going to look into having some re-inforcment put in.

Sorry to hear of it happening AGAIN, ick.

I kick yer fence slats late at night! :evil: :lmao:

[ColoradoXJ]

So I'm curious. If you did something like this, and they got hurt, what would your liability be? I'm thinking that, especially if it is obviously something that was ONLY put their to protect the fence (as opposed to, for instance, landscape boulders), you could be opening yourself up for a big lawsuit.

Of course, I'm not the one who finished law school here!

AFAIK, mailboxes HAVE to be able to break off and not destroy a car. fences, well :shrug: i'd assume some big landscaping boulders wouldn't be an issue, as long as their on YOUR property.

[mygreenjeep]

Sorry Judge, I'm trying not to laugh here cause I can't tell you how many times I almost did that to your fence, of course not knowing it was your fence. I used to live near Dartmouth and Ventura and would make that left on to Yale from Buckley almost daily coming from the base. Quite a few times in the winter I would slide up on the sidewalk and came very close to nailing the fence. But rest assured, it was never me that took out the fence. I would have stayed and would have rebuilt it for ya. I've seen many fences on Buckley and on Hampden get taken out. Sorry about the fence man.

[Gunter]

Fixed it for ya there... Go watch Schoolhouse Rock, Conjunction Junction again - I think yer a little confused :)
dork.

[Big Kev]

My grandma used to have her mail box ran over 3 or 4 times a year. My dad thought people were doing it on purpose so he built a mail box stand that wieghed about 400 punds. The next car that hit the box was still there when grandma woke up. Never got wacked again.

Snow plow use to get ours when I was growing up. We put a 4x4 post about 5' down and then cement. The box got taken off a few times since then but the post has never moved.

[Suki]

I kick yer fence slats late at night! :evil: :lmao:


so you're the little bastard causing all that ruckus!!! :flipoff2:

[Tiffany]

Hell Al I almost came through your fence one night a few weeks ago...wasn't even speed, snow was falling and the Expedition decided it wanted to beach itself during the turn... fourtnately I was able to convince it otherwise and we just side slid past and kept on moving.

Your fence is obviously a car magnet.

[jeepn4evr]

Put the fence back up solidly & then on the inside of your fence put som flower beds or something about 3 ft lower thean the bottom of oyur fence. Someone comes through & slides over dropoff & cant get out.

A couple years ago I slid thorough a fence on Jewell near kipling. If I had gone another 8 in or so I would have fallen off a drop off similar to what I described. Granted in their case they had to have it due to where there lot was. After all the pieces came to a rest I backed my truck up a little & immedialty called my insurance guy. While on the phone with him the homeowner came out & since it was cold went back inside. I went down & knocked on her door & gave her my info. Came back out & a cop was there. He thought it was a hit & run (literal run) as my truck was still there & I had left keys in it. So he thought I had hit the fence & took off on foot leaving everything behind. I told him what happened & we had exchanged info & he said that was fin & left without giving a ticket. That stupid fence bent my hood & bumper, grill gaurd went through the grill & broke one of my radiator mounts. Truck was driveable until radiator started to leak bad a few days later. They repaired the fence & I could always tell what section of fence I owned until this past year when they replaced the whole fence all along Jewell.

We had a customer with a similar problem, but I think they caught the people later on something else. Parts of their fence went through a couple windows which of course sprayed glass & wood through a good portion of their house. They also had wood splinters in the side of their house & paint was chipped. Fence was only like 10 feet away from the house.

[jredmond]

What you need is some sort of 220V line on the inside of your fence and a grounded metal bar on the other side of your fence. Then next time a car comes through the car will complete the circuit with its frame and sparks will fly.

[Gunter]

What you need is some sort of 220V line on the inside of your fence and a grounded metal bar on the other side of your fence. Then next time a car comes through the car will complete the circuit with its frame and sparks will fly.
maybe some ground flares and artillery simulators tied to a trip wire?
smash fence and all hell breaks loose!!

[Sound_Man]

http://lang.stava1985.it/foto/Muraglione.jpg

[Gunter]

http://lang.stava1985.it/foto/Muraglione.jpg
perhaps a classic normandy hedgerow?:thumbsup:

[ni0h]

Where I came from (also Indiana, but east-central) the kids with trucks weren't the problem. Instead, punks in cars would use baseball bats. A neighbor welded up a 5/16" steel facsimile of the standard rural mailbox on a swing arm so it would move out of the way in an actual vehicle hit.
Very shortly thereafter he found pieces of a bat at the end of his driveway. I'll bet that stung a bit.

[1984flht]

The fifth time he rebuilt his mailbox one year, after his wifes "bridge games", the guy across the street painted the entire thing blaze orange. Railroad iron works pretty good too.

[Sound_Man]

Put this in the corner behind the light post
http://www.sandhurstfoundation.org/Resources/Normandy%20Battery333.JPG


Then continue the side walls to the end of your property.

[DaJudge]

Put this in the corner behind the light post
http://www.sandhurstfoundation.org/Resources/Normandy%20Battery333.JPG


Then continue the side walls to the end of your property.
ROTFLMFAO!!!

[Gunter]

Put this in the corner behind the light post
http://www.sandhurstfoundation.org/Resources/Normandy%20Battery333.JPG


Then continue the side walls to the end of your property.
the aurora wall!!LOL

[Whitey]

I doubt the City will put some bollards up to protect your fence. If you could establish a safety concern to kids or pedestrians, they might consider putting up a higher curb or bollards behind the curb to protect the walkway.

Run it by your council representative who may be moved to contact public works and get the ball rolling, (or call public works yourself). That would be the least expensive, (to you).

Other option is to install some bollards on your own dime just outside the fence. I'd guess the fence is on the ROW/property line so you'd have to slightly move the rails to accommodate the concrete filled steel bollards.

As a minimum, use a 6" diameter post, 7' long, set in concrete in an 18" dia hole 3ft in the ground. Space them close enough apart so a car doesn't fit between them. A ball park figure for having someone furnish & install *painted steel bollards is $500/each.






*Normally, they are painted yellow, but, on your corner, on your own dime, I think they should look like barber shop polls, red and white striped. :D

[Whitey]

Maybe call Risk Management, they might be able help out with the cost? :shrug:

[DaJudge]

My fence guy heard about this and was already waiting for my call. $200 to replace the damaged portion. The other preventive/punitive measures are being taken under advisement...As always I am amazed at the creativity of your collective imaginations. Here is the scene. )Note the tire tracks lead to the brick pillar. Maybe some evidence will appear when the snow melts.)

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[zillacon]

That Lil girl in Westminster that got hit in her own backyard last summer by a car lives down the street from Jeffe and I. This was the second time the fence had been run over in 2 years. Her mom was able to convince the Ins. Company to have boulders placed outside the fence so it wouldn't happen again along with larger posts.

[rch]

Land Mines?

Good idea

Also make a quick sand pit right before your fence, so if they were to be heading towards hitting your fence their car would get stuck in quick sand before they hit your fence.... its a genious idea.

[Rex Ashton]

Seeing those pictures really pisses me off :mad: :pissed:








...........I knew you were on the corner of Buckley / Yale, but I just realized which corner and I've been paying a kid 5 bucks every other Friday to toilet paper the wrong damn house :pissed: :mad:



:flipoff2: :P :flipoff2:


---Sux about the fence, Al --- Hope your fence guy is sending you something around the holidays for your repeat business....Definitely sounds like time for some boulders; or maybe hanging a huge bladder of "skunk oil" on your fence that bursts upon impact :idea: ~~should be able to sniff out the culprit --- Good luck ;)

[supremebeholder]

Why don't you extend the brick to the corner and reinforce it? That should stop the next guy who hits it, and then he can pay for the even more costly repairs.

[Funrover]

That sucks, The boulder idea souns good but $$!! The concrete filled metal poles is a great idea also... go to a scrap metal place and pick up an I beam, mount it a foot off the ground or so.. That'll stop most cars!

[DADA_JEEP]

My back yard is up against Tower/Reservoir... I'm waiting for the day that I have a car in my back yard as well.

I'm liking the bollard idea though... I may need to plant a few of those along with the trees next spring :)

backing to buckley i'm just waiting for the day.

So I'm curious. If you did something like this, and they got hurt, what would your liability be? I'm thinking that, especially if it is obviously something that was ONLY put their to protect the fence (as opposed to, for instance, landscape boulders), you could be opening yourself up for a big lawsuit.

Of course, I'm not the one who finished law school here!
this was my question too, cause if the wall around our neighborhood isn't built i'm going to get some 8 foot 5 inch pipe and burry them 4 foot and fill with quickcrete, alongwith my new trees, that should keep them out.

Put the fence back up solidly & then on the inside of your fence put som flower beds or something about 3 ft lower thean the bottom of oyur fence. Someone comes through & slides over dropoff & cant get out.

he can't yard basically goes uphill from the fence.


al, let me know what you find out legality wise, being on the corner lot is the biggest issue, right down the street here my neighbor just fixed his fence for the 3rd time in the year i've lived in this house.

the guy next door has been in the house since it was new in 1973, when we bought this place he told me about the 5 cars that have been in my other neighbors yard (corner lot too) to inclue the one that hit the house, the three that have been in my back yard and the two in his, not bad over a 30 year span, but i don't let the kids play in the section of the yard that is right up against the fence (and buckley road)

[newracer]

Why don't you extend the brick to the corner and reinforce it? That should stop the next guy who hits it, and then he can pay for the even more costly repairs.

X2 Extend the brick portion and put the column right on the corner. Pour it solid with concrete inside the brick. It would even look better IMHO.

[newracer]

What's that Jeep doing on the sidewalk? Another near miss? :D

[DADA_JEEP]

X2 Extend the brick portion and put the column right on the corner. Pour it solid with concrete inside the brick. It would even look better IMHO.

the brick i don't think is his responsibility, it's the signage for the neighborhood.

[jtw2]

....sweet, so nobody saw me.....

[Sonic Reducer]

is there space on the outside of your fence to put some big rocks?

[gumcrew2]

At my friends place they just built one section of wall behind the fence that's cinder block buried 3 deep and the wall itself is 3 bricks thick, filled with cement. Next person to hit it won't know what hit 'em.

[scottycards]

We back to a golf course............landscape boulders won't keep the errant drives out of our backyard, or out of our windows, or siding, or cars in the driveway (yes, crappy golfers actually drive the ball over the house).

It's a bummer, but consider yourself lucky. Windows go for about the same price, and we've lost a few in the two years we've been there.

[Colo.TJ]

Looks like someone is waiting beyond the 24hr. period to shovel their sidewalk.;)

[CherryokeeXJ]

Paint your fence with a big bullseye target. People never hit what they're aiming for.....especially men. :flipoff2:

[SteveO]

Sure enough couple days later he had a wrecked truck stuck on his mailbox post and a couple SORRY looking high school kids in his kitchen calling home to have their parents come pick them up, never had a problem again.

Man, I'm surprised he even let them use his phone. I would have told them to start walking.

[Scooter]

Yep, you need a boulder to guard the corner of your fence!
I bet that is also the least cost fix..;)

[Dave McDonald]

Paint your fence with a big bullseye target. People never hit what they're aiming for.....especially men. :flipoff2:

Awwww stick it in yer ear.




Wait, maybe that's what he did, and that's what yer pissed about? ;)

[4-rocks]

The way your brick sets I don't know if this would work, I thought I'd through it out here for thought. Could you pour a footing with a short stem wall above ground, back fill it on your side of the fence and then built on top of that. Then maybe plant some junipers or something to hide the street side of the stem wall. An 18 - 20" stem wall would stop most vehicles. You'd be covering up some of your brick work. I just thought where the hill slopes down to your wooden fence this might be an option. Not a cheap option because your footing will need to be below frost line (48") or so.

[Whitey]

is there space on the outside of your fence to put some big rocks?

Yep, you need a boulder to guard the corner of your fence!
I bet that is also the least cost fix..;)

It would be the least costly, except, anything outside the fence would be in the Street ROW. That falls into public works & traffic domain. He would have to get a variance or permission to place them there.

Not sure what the City would do if some boulders 'fell' off a truck making teh corner? or when the City would be out to pick them up? :shrug:

[Scott91MJ]

had a neighbor that his fence would get hit EVERY winter storm. His fence was a good 10 feet in from the curb with bushes. He got fet up and put 6x6 posts in, 3 feet apart and 4x4 rails. the next storm came and sure enough another car hit the fence, the car was totaled.