The Semper Fi Act of 2008

[Rimmer]

Clyde: you should like this one

These are some Republicans that would get my vote if they pass this bill.

:flipoff2: Berkeley

http://www.ktvu.com/news/15240235/detail.html

[Pilot]

Wednesday night, Berkeley's Mayor Tom Bates backed down from those earlier calls for the Marines to hit the road.

"We went too far when we passed [the resolution]. We said things we probably shouldn't have said," explains the mayor.

F'in cowards. They're already backpedaling. Maybe Berkley shoud relocate to France. I think the Marines are attacking the wrong country. They should turn their amphibious talents on the Bay Area, Berkley first!

[LONEWOLF]

"I'm against war, but I think if we didn't have the Marines we'd probably be all be speaking German," said Ralph Kratz of Richmond.

They got that right. I hope they get all their funding yanked, close em down. Crap like that really pisses me off. :flipoff2:

[ThePagan]

As an ex-marine I would say they can go get #*)$#&%*)... however I also concur that they have the right to do or say what they want. It's one of the freedoms that Americans have. I think retaliation against the town is out of line too.

They have the right to not like the war. They have the right to not like marines. Other have the right to vote against their politics. They have the right to reduce funding if it is for the right reasons.

My $0.04...

- Shawn

[CLYDE]

I had heard about them trying to run them out, I had noit heard about the counter measures. Good on them :D

[Yota]

I think cities and universities SHOULD lose federal funds for materially hindering military recruitment.

They may not like it, but military protection is the #1 job of the federal government. Cities should not be allowed to micromanage that job.

They can hate on the Marines all they want and I would wager that parts if the general public will react it their own ways to that through private means (vote with their dollars). But if a city does something with the direct purpose of making it more difficult for the mil to do its job than it would have been otherwise and more difficult than it would be for other people (such as raising rent artificially), then they should be punished.

Doesn't sound like Berkeley went quite that far. Seems like they just adopted another one of these cowardly "WHEREAS..." or "BE IT RESOLVED..." resolutions. :flipoff: But many universities have gone that far by not allowing mil recruiters on campus. I think that should result in a loss of a percentage (to be determined) of federal funds.

[scottycards]

Cutting a program that helps provide meals for schoolchildren because of the actions of the City Council seems misplaced at best, and friggin' evil at worst.

Why punish the kids or the University, due to the actions of the City Council?

I don't get the connection.

I have no opinion of whether or not the marines should have a recruiting station, btw.

[Steve]

Mayor Tom Bates says he hopes the city can clarify it's position: "I'm not saying we're anti-Marines or anti armed forces. We're just trying to set the record straight that we're against this war. We think it's illegal.

God, not the illegal argument yet again. :rolleyes: Nobody who uses that tired argument can cite a law against it or a law that was broken, but they still "feel" or "think" it's illegal. How do such stupid people get elected?

Cutting funds for what they're talking about is wrong tho, and not how it should be addressed, if it should be addressed by gov't action at all.

[DaJudge]

As the saying goes, "YOU can do anything you want to, but the payback is a bitch!"

[Rimmer]

Originally Posted by Berkeley's Mayor
Mayor Tom Bates says he hopes the city can clarify it's position: "I'm not saying we're anti-Marines or anti armed forces. We're just trying to set the record straight that we're against this war. We think it's illegal.


This is an opinion, not a fact that has been proven beyond a reasonable doubt.

The city voted these people into office, therefore they are representative on the majority of the people who voted.

My opinion is that if you value being an american then you should pay your fair share to protect those freedoms, whether it be taxes, service to your country or even helping the economy by being a worker bee.

This was an idea advanced on an opinion nothing else, then after they are threatened with loss of federal funds, the backpedaling begins.

I have no feelings of empathy towards them at all, they don't want to support the security of this great country, that allows them the freedom to be asshats, then why should the federal government support them ?

Why punish the kids or the University, due to the actions of the City Council?

because a lot of them, or their parents voted the city counsel into office :shrug:

[Yota]

Cutting a program that helps provide meals for schoolchildren because of the actions of the City Council seems misplaced at best, and friggin' evil at worst.

Why punish the kids or the University, due to the actions of the City Council?

I don't get the connection.

I have no opinion of whether or not the marines should have a recruiting station, btw.

:lmao:

*Classic* liberal illogic.

The point is that their actions caused the effect.

[Jeff Mason]

Cutting a program that helps provide meals for schoolchildren because of the actions of the City Council seems misplaced at best, and friggin' evil at worst.

Why punish the kids or the University, due to the actions of the City Council?

I don't get the connection.

I have no opinion of whether or not the marines should have a recruiting station, btw.

So, accepting government aide (money for school lunches, state university support), is different than accepting basic government services (military recruiting, in this case).

Seems to me it is somewhat of a packaged deal and (aside from the BS of Congress getting involved and rattling sabers) if you don't want one, you don't get the other. The Berkeley group clearly overstepped their bounds, IMHO.

[Budman]

I don't understand why the Marines would want to recruit in that area anyway. I am sure the numbers from there are extremely low. Besides that, who wants a Berkley grad as your boss??

[MinesJeep]

I agree 100% with the Rep from S.C. about how the town doesn't deserve special pet project funding! I'm for just about any cause in cutting Pork Barrel spending.