Finish It as Is Or Chassis

[never wheeled]

The end to the 7 year project that is my land cruiser is comming to an end. In order to finish it I have about 10,000 to spend to finish it as is. This includes finishing the sheet metal and dash, Intercoms, GPS, Race radio some minor fab work, mounting of fluid coolers and a few other things. The vehicle is for the most part a Tube chassis grafted into a land cruiser. It is a one of a kind vehicle but due to the constraint of the stock body it is at its and as far as ability goes. It has the entire list of parts needed for a sweet Tube chassis 35spl cromr 60's, Atlas , Big motor, stainless Everything for tubing, Mastercraft seats ect. It will cost about 8,000 more to do the chassis. Should I just transfer it to a chassis or finish it as is???
Pics of the build and finished as is now product at this link
THese are build pics
http://community.webshots.com/user/fj40lc
Finished pics
http://rides.webshots.com/album/557714122EuGgHh

[MtnRunner]

I like the FJ lines. It makes it unique. What would you gain by going to a diff. chassis that you don't have now?

Keep it a Cruizer. It looks cool. Very nice build!

[Camp]

What do you want to ultimately do with it? Crawl? Desert race? Cruise the mall?:poke:

Why would putting it in a Chassis cost $8000? You should only have about $2000 - $2500 in tube and then another $500 in tabs and related items. You can bend it, right? You already have all the hardware so, what am I missing?

I would do a chassis myself but, it looks great with the FJ body on it. Turn it into something like JR's bronco.

[Steven_Mc]

I'm with Mark, keep it a Cruiser. Definitely more unique. :drool:

[BigE]

Going Wrath????

[guapotaco]

thats a sick looking rig, i like the fj's, keep it, and just go wheel the piss out of it:D

[never wheeled]

Went wrath
The Link geometry is funky due to frame constraints. Bottom line is I've been wheeling with nick and JT for 7 yeats now and I'm not following them without much drama. Can't take it. Also will loose 1000 #'s or so in weight. Longer ,lower, lighter. Next year the motor will come out and get bumped to 600 or so. And so on...Thanks for the input :beer: We'll post pics of the buils as it progresses...

[never wheeled]

Some teases of the new chassis


http://rides.webshots.com/photo/2264618040050686511hYfbVf
http://rides.webshots.com/photo/2804209210050686511dktBKI

[Aaron]

Nice! You having Nick do it? That mean you're around, at least up in Ft Fun?

[never wheeled]

Kuai right now back to reality next week:flipoff2:

[never wheeled]

Quick parts list
400 HP 350(Out of 69 Comaro)
Th 350 Manual Valve body, 2800stall, Art Carr shifter
Atlas 4.3
Dana 60 front Cromo-CTM or X joint depending on app PSC ram, OX
Dana 60 rear 35 spl cro-mo disco's Ox
PSC pump and Valve
21x8x3 1250 cfm coolers for Power steering, Tranny and Oil Custom Shrouded
14"x2.5 Kings and 2"x4" hydrolic bumps front Straped at 16" travel
16"x2.5 Kings and 2x4" hydrolic bumps rear Strapped at 19" travel
All alunimum links Big daddy Heims on lowers
Walker wheels
39" Krawlers
Twisted Customs Hood and Grill
20 plus gal Custom Alunimum feul cell
Alunimum interrior and dash
Lowrance 540
PCI intercoms
Kenwood Race radio
I-Pod
Mastercraft seats/Belts
9"+ up travel on all corners
10" clearance at ful bump
Full width +
All braided stainless lines
Lots of other custom doo-dads
:beer:

[Steven_Mc]

14"x2.5 Kings and 2"x4" hydrolic bumps front Straped at 16" travel
16"x2.5 Kings and 2x4" hydrolic bumps rear Strapped at 19" travel


Maybe I'm completely ignorant here, but if you're running a coilover that only has 14" of extension, why would you not strap it at 14" of travel, otherwise you would be using the shock as the limit to extension, which is typically a no-no? Or are you planning to get 16" of travel, and if so how?

Just curious. :shrug:

[MAMA]

Mmmmm Thats HAWT!
It gonna be ready for New Mexico??... 29 days til lift off:)

[Aaron]

Maybe I'm completely ignorant here, but if you're running a coilover that only has 14" of extension, why would you not strap it at 14" of travel, otherwise you would be using the shock as the limit to extension, which is typically a no-no? Or are you planning to get 16" of travel, and if so how?

Just curious. :shrug:

Just tilt them.

[never wheeled]

Hoping its ready for new mexico it comes down to parts being here on time.:eek:
Just go a hook on the T-Case so thats off the list of variables.

[never wheeled]

More Pics
http://rides.webshots.com/photo/2943183590050686511YNEzHk
http://rides.webshots.com/photo/2018775930050686511GSoLaU
http://rides.webshots.com/photo/2124232240050686511IbioOi

Wrath XL just being finished
http://rides.webshots.com/photo/2665955150050686511agJSUQ

[never wheeled]

:flipoff2:
http://rides.webshots.com/photo/2945458120050686511YtSgNz
http://rides.webshots.com/photo/2404121850050686511xvxQQU
http://rides.webshots.com/photo/2668798490050686511zYsocR
http://rides.webshots.com/photo/2097206350050686511SpZEQb
race radio and switches to come...

[MAMA]

MMmmmm YUMMY:) Need a co-driver:)?:D

[GotMOAB?]

took a look at this wrath at nicks today!!! FAWKING BEAUTIFUL!!!!!!!!!!

[MAMA]

:bounce4: :pbj: You ready Mack? I heard you will be driving the Goat:) 6 days and counting:D

[never wheeled]

The debut of the Wrath will be late. Due to finiancial constraints. Eyes bigger than wallet. This will allow for more coin to be spent on sayy a 402ci, 580hp ls2 form Turnkey:eek: . Someone has got to give Nick a run for his money. Plus mo BLING to the chassis.
As a result I am the Goat Pilot. Needing a co-piolot the wife is putting two horses in trainning that week so she ain't comm'in.
Who is in?? I hear there are like 18 or 20 rigs going.

[MAMA]

Hey Mack - I think this is the list unless I missed someone. 17 rigs and 33 peeps:) but I think I missing some peeps
1. Erik Bryant Jeep Buggy
2. Shanna Bryant
3. Darren Schatz Wrath
4. Brian Tennal
5. Chad Bykonen Wrath
6. Todd Allum
7. Susie Reimer
8. Dan Catellano
9. Justin Rubicon
10. Trudie
11. Wyatt
12. Marc Jeep Buggy
13. Cara
14. Duane Poison Spyder
15. Stephanie
16. Discount Phil
17. Beef (Stef)
18. Grandpa aka Matt Buggy
19. Donkey aka Mott Buggy
20. Laura
21. Nick Wrath
22. JT Wrath
23. Levi
24. Ty Xj
25. Ty?s brother
26. Tyson Bronco
27. Mack Goat
28. JAYZ The Doorstop
29. Noe
30. Greg Jefe
31. Spy Jeep
32. Brandon
33. Val Valtostrophe Jeep

[never wheeled]

Scary times for beer and rocks in New Mexico...I'll bring my old spotter ropes for nostalgia.

[never wheeled]

THE GOAT LIVES
http://home-and-garden.webshots.com/photo/1098592912050686511YQoykI

[SPY]

Hey Mack - I think this is the list unless I missed someone. 17 rigs and 33 peeps:) but I think I missing some peeps
1. Erik Bryant Jeep Buggy
2. Shanna Bryant
3. Darren Schatz Wrath
4. Brian Tennal
5. Chad Bykonen Wrath
6. Todd Allum
7. Susie Reimer
8. Dan Catellano
9. Justin Rubicon
10. Trudie
11. Wyatt
12. Marc Jeep Buggy
13. Cara
14. Duane Poison Spyder
15. Stephanie
16. Discount Phil
17. Beef (Stef)
18. Grandpa aka Matt Buggy
19. Donkey aka Mott Buggy
20. Laura
21. Nick Wrath
22. JT Wrath
23. Levi
24. Ty Xj
25. Ty?s brother
26. Tyson Bronco
27. Mack Goat
28. JAYZ The Doorstop
29. Noe
30. Greg Jefe
31. Spy
32. Brandon Jeep
33. Val Valtostrophe Jeep
34. Tusdae


Fixxed it a lil' Cara. I added my gf and Brandons LJ is coming while my Jeep rests!!!


I can't wait, less than a week!

[MAMA]

Updated again:) 37 people and 18 Rigs
1 Erik Bryant ********* ********* Jeep Buggy
2 Shanna Bryant
3 Darren Schatz **** ********* Wrath
4 Brian Tennal
5 Chad Bykonen****** ******** Wrath
6 Todd Allum
7 Susie Reimer
8 Dan Catellano
9 Justin **************** ******* Rubicon
10 Trudie
11 Wyatt
12 Marc *************** ********* Jeep Buggy
13 Cara
14 Duane ************* ********* Poison Spyder buggy
15 Stephanie
16 Discount Phil
17 Beef (Stef)
18 Grandpa aka Matt ******** Buggy
19 Donkey aka Mott ********* Buggy
20 Laura
21 Nick ********************* Wrath
22 JT ************************** Wrath
23 Levi
24 Ty Xj
25 Ty?s brother
26 Tyson ******************** Bronco
27 Mack ************* Goat
28 JAYZ ************************* The Doorstop
29 Noe
30 Greg Jefe
31 Spy **************************
32 Brandon LJ
33 Val *************************** Valtostrophe Jeep
34 Zach ?Nutley?************** FJ
35 Mark Ruffy****************** Buggy
36 Tusdae
37 Loser

[SUPERGILDO43]

Maybe I'm completely ignorant here, but if you're running a coilover that only has 14" of extension, why would you not strap it at 14" of travel, otherwise you would be using the shock as the limit to extension, which is typically a no-no? Or are you planning to get 16" of travel, and if so how?

Just curious. :shrug:

you can mount the coilovers so that when they only get 14" of extension, the travel exceeds that. like, desert trucks pull in 30+ inches of rear travel, but nobody makes 30+ inch travel shocks/coilovers...

[Scott@Rockstomper]

Maybe I'm completely ignorant here, but if you're running a coilover that only has 14" of extension, why would you not strap it at 14" of travel, otherwise you would be using the shock as the limit to extension, which is typically a no-no? Or are you planning to get 16" of travel, and if so how?

Just to clarify, my car has 14" front coilovers on it now, and 16's in the rear. Actual level travel is 16" front and 18" rear, assuming no limit straps (none are currently installed; it was run as it currently sits at KOH with zero suspension malfunctions). The front shocks are angled rearward and in; the rears, forward and in, so they'll swing such that more travel is available at the axle than what the shocks can do if they were mounted vertically.

Also helps keep the fronts under the hood, which I'm not interested in cutting through. :)

Would it be wiser, for longterm durability, to run limit straps? Absolutely. I just haven't gotten there yet.

[never wheeled]

Scott you don't need anything obtruding from anywhere it'll just get hung up on a rock and slow you down regardless if weather or not its on your hood. Lately you've proven that you can drive wheels up just as well as wheels down, seems to revolve around how you feel that day...:beer:

Are you running a center strap or just letting it all hang out?

[Scott@Rockstomper]

Are you running a center strap or just letting it all hang out?

At this point, letting it all hang out.

Oh, and the build looks great so far, wish mine was that nice. :beer:

[never wheeled]

Latest pics
http://rides.webshots.com/photo/2082133760050686511yMVJia
http://rides.webshots.com/photo/2037764820050686511qWrFxC
http://rides.webshots.com/photo/2391876450050686511wQUPio

[Steven_Mc]

:cool: Looks Good!!

[never wheeled]

Note the up travel ( Look at the pumpkin in relation to the cradel), It still has 1.5 inches to go in the rear. low and fast...

[MAMA]

Ready for SoDak????? :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce:

[Rockhorse]

I was hoping it was done, too! we may need an empty table soon..... ;)

I was sitting in that a few weeks back and I dig the attention to detail
and the room of that chassis. :thumbsup:

[never wheeled]

if it is ready it will still be raw metal... it will be close, won't have the new motor for sure, not that the current plant is any slouch.

[Psychoneurosis]

Nice ride....

Gotta keep it a little Cruiser

[JohnToy]

oldfart- your like 10 years behind the rest of us! Wheeling a stocker? Thats sooo 1998! There are YEARS of hardcore competitive rockcrawling that separates you...
I just picked up Macs old chassis, its sweet! I plan on building it, comp'n it and flat out hammering it:D

[MAMA]

:feedtroll: This guy has to be a Joke.... Camp???


Hi All,

I'm auditioning for second chair skin flute while playing with my sausage maker. I need go back out to the daycare and stop playing in the big boys room before I look any dumber than I already do.



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Edited by Camp ;)

[Matt]

LMAO, I was wondering what was going to become of that.

Nice build, nice to still see some cruiser lines. :thumbsup:

[never wheeled]

found a motor

413 stroker
Dart block
AFR heads
Full roller
Injected
462 hp
565 ft.lbs. (500 by 2200rpm)
Dyno #'s from 5000 feet(Loveland)
Not hitting the 600hp mark but damn close at sea level and the Torque #'s are awsome, should push over 700ft.lbs.:eek: at sea level

[Aaron]

sick! When she gonna be done?

[never wheeled]

hopefully in a month of so cash flow is picking up again