Only in the chAir Force!!!

[Conrad]

http://img166.imageshack.us/img166/1129/col2ab9.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

[Oscar]

So? Other the fat Colonel needing to be shot.

[Conrad]

Let me guess the 3 col's and 3 generals all flew their planes to take this pic?

[Conrad]

not to mention taking pics with restricted area badges on....

[Oscar]

Thats an OPs position uniform regardles if they flew that day or not just like hospital folks or services wearin thier white uniforms. Uniform of the Day.

[Yota]

What they're supposed to change unis just for a pic? Different unis for different jobs. Meh.

Anyone catch the civilian in the background who's wearing his uni (shirt + ties)? He's definitely civilian because he has either a goatee or a full beard.


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[team D.A.T.A.]

That is awesome!

[bcw1284]

personally I see nothing wrong here, other than a colonel who needs to get her fat ass into some more PT.

Would you rather have them spend your tax dollars to buy more uniforms when they have ones that work just fine, even though they may not match the whole force?... I'd rather not foot that bill thanks. I'm ok with them looking ragtag as long as it doesn't hamper their ability to fly plance and facilitate the flying thereof. It's obviously not a formal occasion of they wouldn't be standing around in fatigues and jumpsuits.

as for whitey in the back... contractor? inspector? IT guy? lol, I have no Idea...

[DADA_JEEP]

wasn't there just a "tell me the bad things about the AF" thread..........

[DADA_JEEP]

standing at attention with her hands in her pockets, BUDMAN take care of that one........

[Conrad]

I guess its just a word... "UNIFORM" I see nothing uniform about all that. Because a lazy general wants to wear his flight suit to work.. and have a formation. I would say if anything he should be overdressed compared to everyone else. But I guess its just an army, navy, marine corp (military) thing....

[Conrad]

personally I see nothing wrong here, other than a colonel who needs to get her fat ass into some more PT.

Would you rather have them spend your tax dollars to buy more uniforms when they have ones that work just fine, even though they may not match the whole force?... I'd rather not foot that bill thanks. I'm ok with them looking ragtag as long as it doesn't hamper their ability to fly plance and facilitate the flying thereof. It's obviously not a formal occasion of they wouldn't be standing around in fatigues and jumpsuits.

as for whitey in the back... contractor? inspector? IT guy? lol, I have no Idea...

Has nothing to do with Taxes... They are required to have the uniform and given an allowance for it. Its all about military bearing and professionalism.

[Oscar]

Easy Conrad you are getting personnal now by impling the AF isn't military

[ToyRunner1]

As Oscar said, the flight suit doesn't necessarily mean they fly planes anymore, and that is all Forces wide. If they work in the mountain, for instance, they wear flight suits. That is most likely the UOD as pointed out.

The comments about the Colonel with her hands in her pockets, and the line badges being worn for the pic, are all valid of course :shrug:

[jeeplvr79]

Did ya notice the statue also has his hands in his pocket???

[Pilot]

Jeez. The only one that's really in uniform is the STATUE. LOL!

[Jefe]

....um....no comment.....

[Jeffro600]

I see two major things wrong with the picture...the chick with her hands in her pockets and her sleaves rolled up and the second person in the background with sleaves rolled up. Having done some photography for the Air Force, its common practice to make all the people your shooting look somewhat the same and having two with their sleaves up stands out like a sore thumb. The line badges could have been taken off for the pics too but its not being out of uniform. As for being in different uniforms, the AF is in its transitionary phase of going from the BDU to the ABU and its perfectly acceptable to mix them in the picture...same with the flight suits. If its an authorized uniform, its perfectly acceptable to mix them in photos. The two civilians in the picture should have been placed together and more torwards the side.

The perspective in the shot is off to the right of the actual photographer so the girl with hands in her pockets might not have even been in the final picture...but regardless, hands in the pockets like that is a big no no in uniform.

[ZappBranigan]

When I was in basic training at Ft Benning, if one of the drill sergeants ever saw us with our hands in our pockets he'd yell "get your hands out of those Air Force gloves!" :D

[ZappBranigan]

BTW what uniform is the 1sg wearing (immediately to the left of the COL with her hands in her pockets)? It's not an ABU because it's too light in color and has no lower pockets on the jacket. Nor is it an Army ACU (no slanted pockets, no sleeve pockets). It's also not a Marine Corps digital uniform (wrong color.)

It it an early prototype of the ABU? I don't know about the AF but in the Army the 1sg is usually the most squared away NCO in the Company.

[Conrad]

Easy Conrad you are getting personnal now by impling the AF isn't military

:P I know.... I guess my pride in military professionalism went a little too far. But.....

Marines, Army and even Navy wouldnt do that. If you dont fly that day... you dont wear a flight suit! If you have cammies on... then everone has cammies on. If you are having cammies then everyone has sleeves up or down. Military "uniformity" is huge part of professionalism in the military at least IMO. And flight suits in Cheyenne MTN???? I mean really how small are those satelite cockpits? Its lazyness IMO to wear a flight suit at a desk job. What happen to the good ol days.... When you wore your blue shirt, tie and slacks at desk jobs?

Dont get me wrong I still am happy that individuals are volunteering for service in the AF. I just wish they wouldnt lax their standards.

[Conrad]

BTW what uniform is the 1sg wearing (immediately to the left of the COL with her hands in her pockets)? It's not an ABU because it's too light in color and has no lower pockets on the jacket. Nor is it an Army ACU (no slanted pockets, no sleeve pockets). It's also not a Marine Corps digital uniform (wrong color.)

It it an early prototype of the ABU? I don't know about the AF but in the Army the 1sg is usually the most squared away NCO in the Company.

One of the LTs here at my work said that it was one of the early concept ones, and supposedly you could wear them till they were unservicible. Although like you said.... 1stSgt is usually most squared away NCO in the Company, so I dont understand why he would want to wear them.

[OrangeCrush]

Least they arent all wearing navy dress whites

[Oscar]

Like I said they don't make the Uniform rules the just live by them but yes there is bunch wrong with that picture. And not true fly boys in all the branches wear the flight suits when not flying because that is their UOD. I don't agree with it but it is what it is. As for the blues daily uniform cost is what drives that BDU's and flight suits are cheaper. As for satellite drivers well I never understood that one either.

[Jefe]

Least they arent all wearing navy dress whites


I have to admit, the whites were pretty gay. I hated wearing them. The blues were much better.

[Conrad]

Like I said they don't make the Uniform rules the just live by them but yes there is bunch wrong with that picture. And not true fly boys in all the branches wear the flight suits when not flying because that is their UOD. I don't agree with it but it is what it is. As for the blues daily uniform cost is what drives that BDU's and flight suits are cheaper. As for satellite drivers well I never understood that one either.

Not in any MC, Navy or Army shared Unit I have ever been in has it been ok for pilots to wear there FlightSuit if they werent flying... other than when we were deployment or on mission!

[ZappBranigan]

Not in any MC, Navy or Army shared Unit I have ever been in has it been ok for pilots to wear there FlightSuit if they werent flying... other than when we were deployment or on mission!

I knew a lot of army aviators/aircrew who would try to get away with wearing the bag when they weren't flying. But in most units the policy was that if you aren't flying you wear BDUs. Then they came out with the aviation BDU which most pilots and aircrews hated because it was as much of a PITA to wear as BDUs.

[shunt]

Only problem I see is the PIG with her HANDS in her pockets.......:eek: What a disgrace.:rant:

[JimhatTJ]

not to mention taking pics with restricted area badges on....

or posting said pics on a public forum:flipoff2:

[Conrad]

hey I got it from another place on the internet.... just sharing the love.

[Budman]

standing at attention with her hands in her pockets, BUDMAN take care of that one........

I would be all over that

When I was in basic training at Ft Benning, if one of the drill sergeants ever saw us with our hands in our pockets he'd yell "get your hands out of those Air Force gloves!" :D

Funny, we call them Army Gloves

BTW what uniform is the 1sg wearing (immediately to the left of the COL with her hands in her pockets)? It's not an ABU because it's too light in color and has no lower pockets on the jacket. Nor is it an Army ACU (no slanted pockets, no sleeve pockets). It's also not a Marine Corps digital uniform (wrong color.)

It it an early prototype of the ABU? I don't know about the AF but in the Army the 1sg is usually the most squared away NCO in the Company.

He is the Command Chief Master Sgt. He is wearing one of the early ABUs.

I knew a lot of army aviators/aircrew who would try to get away with wearing the bag when they weren't flying. But in most units the policy was that if you aren't flying you wear BDUs. Then they came out with the aviation BDU which most pilots and aircrews hated because it was as much of a PITA to wear as BDUs.

Aircrew in all the services are getting lax in thier flight suit rules. ADM Keating (Previous NORTHCOM Commander) had his flight suit on almost every day.

As a couple of side notes, I am pretty sure these folks are Reservists (as can be noted from the letters on the hat, and there are many many different uniform combinations.

The only thing wrong with this scene is the hands in the pockets, and the line badges.

As for the statue, he does not have his hands in his pockets, he is standing at the old position of attention.

Oh yeah, if you don't think the AF is in the military, why don't you come on over and spend the next 3 weeks with me. Bet I can change your mind.

[CapnCrunch]

Whenever I wasn't flying on a given day (helo flight crew), I was often still in a flight suit, though, because if I wasn't in a flight suit, I'd usually be in coveralls anyway. Utilities (cammies) were not allowed when working on aircraft (not always, but they were during and after the years I flew) because of FOD danger (buttons could come loose and miscellaneous stuff in pockets were a hazard).

Oh, and we called pockets Army/Navy/Air Force gloves (I guess it depended on who we were picking on that day).