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Yota
November 13th, 2007, 03:27 PM
I just bought a 50" 1080p.

I know it's not an HD box, but Microsoft did make an HD interface for the Xbox (I mistakenly bought one once). I was thinking I might be able to get better than 480i rez out of my Xbox.

Anyone?

Jeffro600
November 13th, 2007, 03:36 PM
720P or 1080i

Jake_Blues
November 13th, 2007, 04:12 PM
It depends on what the game was made for. I've definitely seen them up to 1080i. Dunno about 1080p. Xbox360 goes to 1080p.

You can also link together multiple Xbox360s for multi-display play on some games ;)

-E

Jeffro600
November 13th, 2007, 04:17 PM
It depends on what the game was made for. I've definitely seen them up to 1080i. Dunno about 1080p. Xbox360 goes to 1080p.

You can also link together multiple Xbox360s for multi-display play on some games ;)

-E

It does go to 1080p with the new HDMI models, BUT, i dont think any games are programed at that high of a resolution(720P is the highest i believe..1080i is essentially the same thing) rendering it useless unless you have the HD DVD drive for movies.

Yota
November 13th, 2007, 04:28 PM
For rilz?

How do I enable that? Do I just need the right cable?

Remember I'm talking about Xbox, not the 360.

Jeffro600
November 13th, 2007, 04:41 PM
The regular component cables it comes with support the 720p/1080i. If you have the HDMI port on it, only the newer ones do, then you can use the 1080p.

Jake_Blues
November 13th, 2007, 05:07 PM
For rilz?

How do I enable that? Do I just need the right cable?

Remember I'm talking about Xbox, not the 360.

You just need to get the cable and turn it on. I have the component video cable if you want it, I don't use my regular Xbox since I got the 360 with HDMI. I think they are about $30-$40 to buy.

The only thing odd about it is you have to hook up the regular cable, enable HD on the component video, then hook up the component video cable.

It does go to 1080p with the new HDMI models, BUT, i dont think any games are programed at that high of a resolution(720P is the highest i believe..1080i is essentially the same thing) rendering it useless unless you have the HD DVD drive for movies.

1080i is 1080 horizontal lines with interlaced refresh, 780p is 780 horizontal lines (lower resolution) with progressive refresh. They definitely aren't the same thing by any means. The way I understand it, interlaced refresh is actually better for fast paced video games, it makes the action look smoother.

-E

Jeffro600
November 13th, 2007, 05:11 PM
You just need to get the cable and turn it on. I have the component video cable if you want it, I don't use my regular Xbox since I got the 360 with HDMI. I think they are about $30-$40 to buy.

The only thing odd about it is you have to hook up the regular cable, enable HD on the component video, then hook up the component video cable.



1080i is 1080 horizontal lines with interlaced refresh, 780p is 780 horizontal lines (lower resolution) with progressive refresh. They definitely aren't the same thing by any means. The way I understand it, interlaced refresh is actually better for fast paced video games, it makes the action look smoother.

-E

I guess i should have reworded that...they are not the same thing, but to most eyes, they look identical. Ive heard 720p supposably has the advantage with alot of motion as it projects a less jerky, slightly smoother image...since your seeing the entire image projected all the time and not interlaced like the 1080i.

Jake_Blues
November 13th, 2007, 05:18 PM
I guess i should have reworded that...they are not the same thing, but to most eyes, they look identical. Ive heard 720p supposably has the advantage with alot of motion as it projects a less jerky, slightly smoother image...since your seeing the entire image projected all the time and not interlaced like the 1080i.

I always heard just the opposite, that since interlaced updates every other line on the screen, then goes back and updates the other half, it smooths out the jerkies.

With progressive scan, you get 30 frames per second. With interlaced, you still get 30fps, but in essence you're actually getting 60 half-updates per second. With progressive scan, if something is moving very quickly, the progressive can cause a slight chop. The interlaced smooths it out because it's updating every other line, which kinda "hides" the chop. However, for slower moving things, like normal movies, the progressive scan is better.

I could be wrong, I'm not a videophile.

-E

Jeffro600
November 13th, 2007, 05:22 PM
http://www.hdtvorg.co.uk/focus/resolution.htm

Check out about 3/4 the way down where it says 720P and 1080i. Ive read and heard this everywhere.

"720p: 1,280x720 pixel resolution. High-definition picture that is displayed progressively. Each line is displayed on the screen simultaneously, therefore it is smoother than an interlaced picture.

1080i: 1,920x1,080 pixel resolution. High-definition picture that is displayed interlaced. Each odd line of the picture is displayed, followed by each even line, and the resulting image is not as smooth as a progressive feed. 1080i is therefore a more detailed picture suited to documentaries and wildlife footage, but less suitable for action-oriented material such as sports and movies."

Jake_Blues
November 13th, 2007, 05:32 PM
Ah, well my mistake then. I got my TV specifically because it DIDN'T support 1080p, and was therefore comparatively very very cheap, cause it was discontinued :)

Xbox on a big screen is the only way to go :) Racing games and the like especially.

-E

Yota
November 13th, 2007, 06:10 PM
You just need to get the cable and turn it on. I have the component video cable if you want it, I don't use my regular Xbox since I got the 360 with HDMI. I think they are about $30-$40 to buy.

The only thing odd about it is you have to hook up the regular cable, enable HD on the component video, then hook up the component video cable.



1080i is 1080 horizontal lines with interlaced refresh, 780p is 780 horizontal lines (lower resolution) with progressive refresh. They definitely aren't the same thing by any means. The way I understand it, interlaced refresh is actually better for fast paced video games, it makes the action look smoother.

-E

That's funny I used to have that HD cable but I gave it to hippie because I didn't have an HDTV at the time and he did.

I'll go get one no big deal.

Thanks!

Yota
November 14th, 2007, 10:24 AM
Holy carp I was so pissed last night.

I went to BestBuy and they said - and I quote - "We don't carry anything for the old Xbox because Microsoft will only send us stuff for the 360. You can get that stuff from, like, used game shops and stuff."

Hey Bill Gates... <wipes hand on pants> :flipoff:

Fawk man, RIGHT across the aisle was a whole bunch of stuff for the <drum roll> Pee Ess Two!! Sony still supports their legacy system!!

And what about third-party XBox stuff?! Why not carry that stuff?

Fawking BS, man. BS.

Yota
November 14th, 2007, 11:06 AM
So in my rage I forgot to ask...

Anyone know a place that sells the HD cable for the old XBox? :D

(gonna call Target)

Jeffro600
November 14th, 2007, 02:34 PM
Awww crap...i thought we were talking about the 360...not original Xbox!

I dont think any games for that were programed in anything over 480i or p...so your not going to gain anything over the standard component cables.

Jake_Blues
November 14th, 2007, 02:47 PM
Awww crap...i thought we were talking about the 360...not original Xbox!

I dont think any games for that were programed in anything over 480i or p...so your not going to gain anything over the standard component cables.

I have some for the regular X-box that SAY 1080i on the back. I've never really experimented with changing resolutions to see if it's true though.

So in my rage I forgot to ask...

Anyone know a place that sells the HD cable for the old XBox? :D

(gonna call Target)

I'd have to go with the Best Buy guy and vote for someplace that sells used systems, like Gamestop. Target might have one, they show one on their website, dunno if it is carried in stores or not though. Otherwise, order one online.

If you can't find one anywhere, let me know and I'll mail you mine.

-E

Yota
November 14th, 2007, 08:15 PM
Found one on Ebay for $10 ($19 w/ shipping). So :thumbsup:

Downside is I have to wait a few days to play Halo 2 in HD :(

Jeffro600
November 14th, 2007, 08:16 PM
Trust me...you wont notice much, if any difference from the standard components to the HD cable in an Xbox with Halo 2. ;)

lilgreenjeepyj
November 15th, 2007, 12:00 AM
1080p is the highest resoultion out of the XBOX 360, 1080i out of the OG XBOX.

There are several XBOX titles in 1080i, not many though, but they look nice. Just grab the component cables for it.

As for the 360, more or less the same as the XBOX, but with the new HDMI version or the correct cables for the older box, the HD-DVD will dump 1080p out. The older 360 will do 1080p over the VGA cable.

;)

Oh, and Ive got quite a few OG titles around, and if you are looking for good graphics on the OG Xbox, look for the last splinter Cell, Doom 3, Riddick to start with, those are traditionally the best looking XBOX games. Halo 2 and to some extent 3 leave much to be desired in terms of graphics. Crimson Skies has some really slick graphics as well. Nice thing about the older xbox titles is that they are almost all $10 or less now.

Oh, and there were several XBOX titles that were setup for 720p and 480p with a few 1080i. I easily saw a difference with component cables on my HDTV. Most titles are 480p though.

http://www.hdtvarcade.com/hdtvforum/index.php?autocom=custom&page=xboxa

Oh and despite enter the matrix being 1080i, AVOID it like the plague, it was awful unless you are a HUGE matrix fan.

Yota
November 15th, 2007, 06:51 PM
I still have Splinter Cell: Chaos Theory but it's not in HD.

Some of my other titles show HDTV 480p on the back of the cover. Unfortunately, I bought the Collectors' Edition Halo 2 (metal case) and it doesn't say anything on the back - so I don't know if Halo2 does 480p or not.

I have 4 or 5 titles that show HDTV 480p. It'll be interesting to see how they look. Of course I guess I could do that now without the component cables - I have S-video already.

Yota
November 29th, 2007, 08:56 PM
Well the jury is in: the games look the same in 480p as they did in 480i. The XBox says it can spit out 1080i but I don't have any games at that rez. And since they aren't making any games for Xbox I guess I'm SOL.

I should look into used games because they are probably cheap as hell now.

Jeffro600
November 30th, 2007, 01:17 AM
Check ebay...you can get original Xbox games for literally nothing!

WhtJeep
November 30th, 2007, 10:17 AM
All I buy is used games. Ive been getting the old games for 6 bucks most of the time.

lilgreenjeepyj
December 4th, 2007, 11:58 PM
Well the jury is in: the games look the same in 480p as they did in 480i. The XBox says it can spit out 1080i but I don't have any games at that rez. And since they aren't making any games for Xbox I guess I'm SOL.

I should look into used games because they are probably cheap as hell now.



Take a stroll through EB, most of the XBOX 1 Titles are $9 or $5 now. :thumbsup: As long as you are in it for the fun, and not the "wow" factor, there are plenty of great titles to pick up. Grab Crimson Skies if you can find it, it has great gameplay and good graphics. The splinter Cells are good. The halos. A bunch of racing titles, some good fighters, oh and Ninja Gaiden if you can find it. HARD, but quite fun.


Oh crap, Freedom fighters is a good game that is also HD. It looks good in 1080i.

Oh, and Mercenaries is also a good bit of fun if you can find it.