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Da Kine
October 8th, 2007, 12:58 AM
Today just had to be one of those days.....:shrug:
I had planned a day of going to Crystal to see the Old Saw Mill on the river there. I had gotten the impression that it was an easy trip. Wish that had been the case.:confused: A combination of poor planning and bad intel became a frightening day for me and my family.
I had planned this trip to show my family what it is about 4 wheeling that I enjoy so much. For me, one of the greatest parts of the experience is to get somewhere most folks don't and to see something that few will. With that in mind I decided to go to Crystal. Just me, the wife and daughter. No other friends or anything...first mistake.:eek:
So anyway, I had the JK all packed and ready to head out at O-dark thirty in hopes of seeing some hot air balloons lift off in the valley East of BV on 24. No such luck, they all went to New Mexico for the big fancy smancy balloon fest.....:flipoff2:
Now I chose this circuitous route from Colorado Springs for a couple of reasons, one, the balloons and two, the wife wanted to see what the big deal was about Aspen. So we took the long way and used a LOT of time getting to the trail head.
So we came down through Carbondale and at that time I had just a little less than a half tank. No problem I thought, I will fill up in Marble. Guess what Marble does not have any of? Yep, gas stations. So now I have a decision to make, do I continue or turn around and go all the way back to Carbondale for gas? Bingo, I pressed on.... mistake # 2.
So we find the trail head easy enough, no problem there, but part of it is closed due to a bridge wash-out. I am told though that I can still get to the saw mill by taking the other loop, it will just take 'a little longer'. OK, 'a little longer' route should be no problem. The sun is shining, there is a dusting of snow all over... oh, did I forget to mention the snow and ice? Wait for it. So off we go and what do you know, this trail is kind of beat up. I have the wife and daughter with me, so to be kind to them, I go extra slow over the rocks and holes. Since I have never been here, I do manage to make a wrong turn or two dozen, all of which lead to some very narrow and icy cliff hanger type trails. Each time I had to back down.
Finally I find the right trail and it is a beautiful drive.:) The scenery is just great! I have one eye on the trail and one on the surroundings. Oh, because we were going so slowly, we got passed by just about everyone out there.
So, bumping and plodding along, we finally get to Crystal and I hear a chime coming from the dash, we are low on gas, reserves. So now what? It took us over an hour to get to Crystal, and the closest gas that we know of is in Carbondale, another 30 minutes past Marble. No way did I have enough gas for that. Time to check the map. We see that if we go south, the trail will go to Crested Butte, and it is ALOT closer than Carbondale. OK, so that is the plan, make best course for Crested Butte.
As rocky and bumpy as the trail from Marble was, it had nothing on the leg that led to Crested Butte. Not only that, but it go much narrower and the drop-offs that much further down. OK, maybe my imagination is making it seem further down, but it sure felt that way.
So, I go slowly again, but also keeping an eye glued to the fuel gauge. We come to a bridge next to a wonderful waterfall and start up the canyon. About 100 yards past the bridge, the trail turns icy (told you I would come back to it) and has a sharp left turn with part of the interior apex of the curve washed away, making for a VERY narrow passage. What do I do now? Continue and pray that I make it, or back down and hope I have enough fuel to go back the way I came? Looking at the fuel gauge, I knew I was past the point of no return, so I stopped, got out and walked the area in question. I checked that turn and about 100 yards beyond it for any other surprises. Looks doable, but it will be very tight. Sitting here now, I should have asked the wife and daughter to walk ahead of me, just in case something did happen.
Long story short, we did make it, but I have to get new cushions for my seat to replace the one that my butt sucked in. I do have to give my wife props though, not once did she scream, dig claws into my arm or berate me for making bad decisions, thanks hun.:D
Let this be a lesson. Do Not go somewhere without some kind of back up and especially if you have never been there before.
Guess what it is time for? :beer::beer::beer::beer::beer::beer::beer::beer::beer::beer::beer::beer::beer:

Taz
October 8th, 2007, 07:25 AM
Wow sounds like a true jeeping adventure for sure! Sounds like you learned your lessons so I will leave that be. Do you have any pictures? Sounds like a very beautiful area.

S&LUnlimited
October 8th, 2007, 08:15 AM
Noone got hurt and you are home safely. Sounds like you married a good woman! Memories now that will last a lifetime.

GRNMEG359
October 8th, 2007, 09:52 AM
Or the next lesson, do go somewhere you have never been. Adventure, instead of going to Marble go to Crested Butte. Love the setting and the views, take in all you can. Go for the obstacle that you are to afraid for friends or loved ones to stay in your rig while you do it.
I am pretty sure that is called Jeepin'. Just next time, i vote you turn around for gas before hitting a trail head :thumbsup: or bring your good friend Jerry.

Wally
October 8th, 2007, 10:04 AM
LOL sounds fairly familar to my adventure coming down Schofiled pass years ago in my stock ZJ with my mountain bike on the roof :eek: Glad it worked out for ya, Schoffield (the pass from crystal to crested butte) can be very intimidating esp in a stock rig

Tom N
October 8th, 2007, 10:35 AM
Glad everything turned out OK. That is why I like having a full 5 gallon gas can on the tailgate. Emegency backup. :)

jimfoo
October 8th, 2007, 11:01 AM
And why I like having a Diesel. Great off-road mileage.

JeepWheelin02
October 8th, 2007, 02:32 PM
:worthless:

Da Kine
October 8th, 2007, 02:43 PM
I didn't get any pics of the trail itself, too busy concentrating, but here are some of the general scenery.

Crystal River
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2281/1511577471_80ec7de65f_b.jpg

Frozen Waterfall in Crystal Canyon
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2015/1512418670_dd967a38d3_b.jpg

Waterfall in Crystal Canyon
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2173/1512409298_1dfcac538f_b.jpg

Either Sheep, Hat or Arkansas Mtn, Co
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2110/1512383794_9466731c98_b.jpg

Either Sheep, Hat or Arkansas Mtn, Co
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2055/1511504487_4df57b3709_b.jpg

Doc_Floyd
October 8th, 2007, 04:14 PM
And who says there is no such thing as "one-trial learning"?

Jake_Blues
October 8th, 2007, 04:35 PM
Not that it helps any now, but your JK has a couple of gallons of gas that are "hidden" from the gauge :) I've run mine all the way down till the needle was on empty, and it only took about 19 gallons to fill it. However, the tank holds 21.6. I'd never rely on that reserve either, but it is there.

-E

Da Kine
October 8th, 2007, 05:45 PM
Thanks for all the info. I am looking now for a 5 gallon jerry can to bring for my next outings.

otisdog
October 8th, 2007, 07:30 PM
It was nothing that a couple of Valiums would have cured.
Jim

cheepin
October 8th, 2007, 09:23 PM
You learned some lessons,luckily it wasn't worse!!Did you check the weather before you left CS?Rain and snow over the weekend in the high country!Pretty high up there!The snow on Sopris didn't give you a hint.I do beileve there is a gas station in Redstone also.Which is only a little ways back towards Carbondale.Go get yourself a Charles Wells Colorado guide book.Would have given you the info you need before you decided to go alone this time of year.

Big Kev
October 8th, 2007, 10:17 PM
I drove that trail labor day weekend, and I would not want to do it with any ice. Glad you and the family are ok. Some parts of the trail were pretty tough, we ran it from Crested Butte to Marble. A good part of that trail is around 10,000 feet, you are lucky you didn't get any snow. Take care and glad you learned from your mistakes. I believe the water fall is called the Devils Punch Bowl.

JeepDiva
October 9th, 2007, 10:04 AM
Great pics. Glad you made it out ok. In 10 years, this will be one of your favorite 4-wheeling stories to tell. :)

Doc_Floyd
October 9th, 2007, 03:24 PM
There is a small store and gas station in Redstone - with prices about $1/gal higher than Carbondale...but many of us have used it before going on up to Marble, Lead King and Schofield.

DaJudge
October 9th, 2007, 05:12 PM
There is a small store and gas station in Redstone - with prices about $1/gal higher than Carbondale...but many of us have used it before going on up to Marble, Lead King and Schofield.
SWMBO and I stayed at the Redstone Inn 9/25 & 26. If there was a gas pump in town, I didn't see it. We ran the loop to Marble, Lead King Basin, Crystal, Devils Punchbowl, Schofield Pass, Kebler Pass, McClure Pass, and back to Redstone. Pictures are here (http://picasaweb.google.com/alstine/AspenRedstone907).

Weather was good this trip but we did the ice and snow thing like Da Kine a few years ago.

http://www.colorado4x4.org/vbb/attachment.php?attachmentid=7224&stc=1&d=1191968287

http://www.colorado4x4.org/vbb/attachment.php?attachmentid=7225&stc=1&d=1191968287

Da Kine
October 9th, 2007, 05:41 PM
This will without a doubt be The One trip I will always remember, just because of chain of events that I should have paid attention to but did not. For any of my next trips, I will be going in a group and seeking info from others here as to latest conditions and advise.
Thanks for all your replies, in this case 20/20 hindsight is a good thing.

miniwally
October 10th, 2007, 12:01 PM
SWMBO and I stayed at the Redstone Inn 9/25 & 26. If there was a gas pump in town, I didn't see it.


The General Store is where the gas pumps are located. The couple of times I went for lunch or dinner in Redstone this year they were open.

gsellers
October 10th, 2007, 03:15 PM
Redstone general store also has some killer homemade ice cream :)

74BuckinBronc
October 10th, 2007, 04:02 PM
I think most of us have a story like that. I fried a wire that happens to allow my battery to charge and did not know it. Well I knew it, but could not find it. Next trip, my wife is with me and we are a long ways in. We stop to put out a campfire left to burnout and the bronco doesn't start. It's a story I am fond of now, but it was a rough go in the midst.

When looking at new trails, I certainly consult MANY sources, most of them online, which are generally more up to date compared to books.

Live and learn man!

J.D.

Murfman
October 13th, 2007, 10:20 AM
To me this is the most beautiful trail in Colorado. Yes it can be a serious seat sucker, especially if you are alone. Glad it all worked out for you.

Whitey
October 13th, 2007, 02:42 PM
LOL, life's lessons never end, they just get better!

If you don't get a gas can, bring some high octane wiskey/vodka/burbon and take a swig, then pour the rest in the tank. :D

Good trip report! :thumbsup: