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Budman
September 13th, 2007, 03:16 PM
http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do/News/articleId=115788

ColoradoXJ
September 13th, 2007, 03:20 PM
um. so not going to china anytime, ever...

Oscar
September 13th, 2007, 03:22 PM
hhmmm border patrol vehicle?

theirishavenger
September 13th, 2007, 03:53 PM
Damn, that's like something out of Soylent Green, or Logan's Run. Creepy.

scottycards
September 13th, 2007, 04:12 PM
From the Edmunds website. That's pretty funny.

"Automotive Related"...........

Not a story I would have expected to see on Edmunds.

OlBlueCJ7
September 13th, 2007, 04:41 PM
um. so not going to china anytime, ever...

Why? Because they're capital punishment house call service is less humane than the American "let's have twelve people watch as we strap you to a table & stick a needle in your arm" version?

Gimme a break.

I'd love to go to China someday. :thumbsup:

cheftyler
September 13th, 2007, 09:13 PM
That sounds exactly like what was created by the Confederates to exterminate the African Americans in one of Harry Turtledove's alternate history series...

denverd0n
September 14th, 2007, 09:56 AM
Why? Because they're capital punishment house call service is less humane...
Probably more like because they have no concept of "due process."

I have no problem whatsoever with the death penalty. Hell, I'm all for it. Think it should be used a lot more often.

But I do NOT think it should be used for getting rid of political dissidents, which China uses it for. And I do NOT think it should be used without full and due process, which China does not have. As such, I do NOT like the idea that they send a van around to execute whoever happens to be annoying them this week.

In the U.S., where we protect the rights of the accused, sure, why not have a travelling execution van? Get it done with.

Budman
September 14th, 2007, 10:18 AM
Probably more like because they have no concept of "due process."

I have no problem whatsoever with the death penalty. Hell, I'm all for it. Think it should be used a lot more often.

But I do NOT think it should be used for getting rid of political dissidents, which China uses it for. And I do NOT think it should be used without full and due process, which China does not have. As such, I do NOT like the idea that they send a van around to execute whoever happens to be annoying them this week.

In the U.S., where we protect the rights of the accused, sure, why not have a travelling execution van? Get it done with.

You are correct, China does fail to do it properly. In addition they harvest the organs of the people they execute, that is a bad thing. Not that there is anything wrong with taking the organs of the dead, but I have to wonder...

If you have a rare blood type, and someone needs some kidneys, are you all of a sudden "Guilty of Rape and Murder" and put to death...

But around here, Where we spend millions on making sure we get it right... I can see it as a time/money saving venture.

Waifer2112
September 14th, 2007, 11:28 AM
Probably more like because they have no concept of "due process."

I have no problem whatsoever with the death penalty. Hell, I'm all for it. Think it should be used a lot more often.

But I do NOT think it should be used for getting rid of political dissidents, which China uses it for. And I do NOT think it should be used without full and due process, which China does not have. As such, I do NOT like the idea that they send a van around to execute whoever happens to be annoying them this week.


Not to fear!!!

China: Orders to use death penalty less

BEIJING (AP) -- China has ordered judges to use the death penalty more sparingly by showing leniency for murderers who cooperate with authorities and white collar criminals who help recoup their ill-gotten gains, the government said Friday.

The order is the latest effort by Beijing to reform capital punishment in China, which is believed to carry out more court-ordered executions than the rest of the world combined.

"Capital punishment should only be given to an extremely small number of serious offenders," said a statement posted Friday on the Supreme Court's Web site explaining the new order. The order was issued to provincial courts on Wednesday, it said, without releasing the full text.

When possible, the statement said, judges should sentence an offender to death but with a two-year reprieve - a penalty often commuted to life in prison if they behave well in jail.

The order said crimes of passion, such as the murder of a family member or neighbor, should not automatically result in the death penalty if compensation is paid to the victim's family. Those convicted of economic crimes should also receive lighter penalties if they help authorities recover the money, it said.

China regularly executes people for economic, nonviolent and political crimes.

On Tuesday, a former official with the Agriculture Bank of China was executed for taking bribes and embezzling bank funds worth about $2 million, according to local media.

In July, the country's former top drug regulator was executed for taking millions of dollars in bribes to approve substandard medicines, including an antibiotic that killed at least 10 people.

China doesn't officially release death sentence figures.

Amnesty International says China executed at least 1,770 people in 2005 - about 80 percent of the world's total. But the true number is thought to be many times higher.

While the Supreme Court order called for greater restraint in ordering executions, it still upheld the use of the death penalty as a deterrent.

"We must hand down and carry out immediate capital punishment in regard to heinous cases, with ironclad evidence that result in serious social damage," it said.

An amendment to China's capital punishment law, enacted in November, requires the Supreme People's Court to approve all death sentences, ending a 23-year-old practice of giving the final review to provincial courts.

The change followed reports of executions of wrongly convicted people and criticism that lower courts arbitrarily impose the death sentence.

And I'm sure they really mean it, this time. :rolleyes:

Yucca-Man
September 14th, 2007, 11:14 PM
Not to fear!!!

China: Orders to use death penalty less

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And I'm sure they really mean it, this time. :rolleyes:At least until the Olympics are over. Then it's game ON again.