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guapotaco
September 6th, 2007, 11:49 AM
just got this: i'm sure some of you have gotten it, but its game time people:boxing:
Hey, jeremyg,

As you know, I rarely send emails to all of you. However this is of extreme importance!



U.S. Forest Service Land Use Restrictions Imminent


Did you know that our access to the entire United States Forest from coast to coast is in jeopardy?!?!?!
We are at DEFCON FIVE with the environmentalists and the U.S. Forest Service!



Now is the time to act!!!


I am very proud of the readers of Pirate4x4.com lately. Our Land Use forums have doubled in traffic over the past couple of months due to the outrageousness of what is going on out there. If you haven't been to our Land Use forums lately, I challenge you to take a look. I guarantee you will get pissed off! When I saw the Draft Plan the Forest Service put out for travel management on the Eldorado National Forest (where I happen to live, and where the world famous Rubicon Trail is) that was the last straw for me. I got pissed off and decided to do something about it.

And it isn't just the Eldorado National Forest. Travel management planning is going on in everyone's backyard whether it's Forest Service or BLM. Anti-access extremists are out in force pressing for closures everywhere. Tellico is threatened by an anti-access lawsuit. Moab access is threatened by overzealous BLM planning. Wilderness bills are rampant in Congress. Roadless area management is still being pushed in the courts. Even the little recreation that there is available in our Parks is still under attack. Check out the fight in Yellowstone.

It really is time to put up or shut up. I threw down the challenge last month to donate in the forums, and we were able to raise about $8,000 for BRC. While that is fantastic, I think we can do a lot better. Remember, without folks like the BLUERIBBON COALITION fighting for our rights to use public land, we might as well take up basket weaving. Join the Blue Ribbon Coalition and donate to the BRC Legal Fund. The beauty of BRC is they combine all the user groups into one big fist. I stuck $500 of my own money in the fight and you need to do what you can. If it's $20 or $5000, anything helps!!

While you are at it, get busy with your local club. Local involvement is where BRC does some of its best work. If you don't belong to a club, get off your butt and join one. You really CAN make a difference!

You can join BRC and donate to BRC Legal Fund online at a secure web location, set up just for Pirate4x4 at http://join.sharetrails.org . It only took me just a couple of minutes. If you aren't comfortable with that, then call them at 1-800-BlueRib. If you can't afford to do both, at least join BRC now and donate when you can afford it.

The members of Pirate4x4 can and will make a difference!

Lance Clifford
Pirate4x4.com

guapotaco
September 10th, 2007, 07:04 PM
52 looks and no one has anything to say or add? sad, see you at the mall when all our public lands are closed

cherokeenut
September 10th, 2007, 10:53 PM
52 looks and no one has anything to say or add? sad, see you at the mall when all our public lands are closed

I have plenty to say but my words would get me tracked down and arrested for what should be done to greenies everywhere.

jimfoo
September 11th, 2007, 10:29 AM
52 looks and no one has anything to say or add? sad, see you at the mall when all our public lands are closed
Well, what's new? I have bee hearing about this kind of thing for years, ever since they started reviewing the travel management plans. I give, and have been giving money, I comment and write letters. What more is there to do?

guapotaco
September 11th, 2007, 11:57 AM
right on fellas, its a tough situation for sure, and not getting any better, and the big ones are happening right now with moab, and the el dorado in cali

cheepin
September 11th, 2007, 09:50 PM
What do you want us to say.I give,I sign petitions,I join clubs,I comment.Not much more to do.Untill we decide to take OUR LANDS BACK!!!

oleblue
September 11th, 2007, 10:04 PM
52 looks and no one has anything to say or add? sad, see you at the mall when all our public lands are closed

...We are at DEFCON FIVE with the environmentalists and the U.S. Forest Service!



...Lance Clifford
Pirate4x4.com

Per that Email, that many of us got, we are at peace. DEFCON FIVE is pure peace, no problems. :flipoff2:

I have given through other clubs and ways, I have given to the legal fund that they speak and with out giving lance any of that money too. He gets a good chuck of it through that link when people pay that way. I like to give direct to BRC, that way ALL my money goes to the fund.


Oh and I thought that Email was spam, it was From "NOBODY@.....NET" Well the NOBODY was an issue with me and the .NET also when I got the the site, it is .COM

Renegade_Jeeper
September 11th, 2007, 10:26 PM
now i know how the Indians felt when the government took their land soo long ago

OlBlueCJ7
September 12th, 2007, 10:48 AM
I have given through other clubs and ways, I have given to the legal fund that they speak and with out giving lance any of that money too. He gets a good chuck of it through that link when people pay that way. I like to give direct to BRC, that way ALL my money goes to the fund.


How do you know Lance is getting any money from this? :confused:

guapotaco
September 12th, 2007, 07:21 PM
now i know how the Indians felt when the government took their land soo long ago

heard that

guapotaco
September 12th, 2007, 07:28 PM
How do you know Lance is getting any money from this? :confused:

thats interesting , anybody know anything about that?

thxs guys, i know that some are out trying, and doing way more than me and most folks, i'm just kind of lite up about all this stuff right now,i have been going to moab for 16yrs now to climb, raft, hike,bike, wheel and all the other amazing stuff to be done out there,and want to see the rubicon etc... just hoping to get a fire lite under some that may not know whats up and happening right now, i make some of my living guiding in the outdoors and dont want to see any of this stuff happen, but its going too, thxs for what you guys give and your involvment with the brc, cfwda etc... i hope it will make a difference

oleblue
September 12th, 2007, 07:40 PM
How do you know Lance is getting any money from this? :confused:
Just by the way it is setup, and a guess. I guess then I should not have stated it the way I did then.. It is just speculation on my part, I'm sorry for that part. It is for a GREAT cause, don't get me wrong on that issue.

jimfoo
September 12th, 2007, 07:57 PM
I wasn't sure, so I just went to the website and gave there.:thumbsup:

Keith in CO
September 13th, 2007, 02:28 PM
I give, and have been giving money, I comment and write letters. What more is there to do?

Show up at the public meetings held by the BLM and FS. The greens sure do, en-masse. Those fed staffers are human too and they need to see that we in the 4x4 community care enough to show up, in public, and speak up with reasonable comments to counterweight the enviro-psycho-blather the greens throw at them about how the e-vil human's machines should be banned from all public lands.