Hardest trail you've seen a stocker do?

[DETN8R]

I think for me it would have to see this old guy doing Spring Creek downward in a TJ. We also ran into a guy in a stock TJ with just a 2" BB going up it. I had trouble with my 33's and no locker.

[CapnCrunch]

A few years ago, when my Montero was stock, I ran Spring Creek (going up). I made it about half-way through the rock garden and had to get winched out.

Now? No problem.

[jimfoo]

I did Holy Cross years ago with stock tires, 235-85-16's, but I don't remember if I had my locker or not. I have made Spring Creek in a stock vehicle quite a few times, but it was a lot easier years ago. Other than those, I'd have to say Chinaman, which I have done recently in my other stock open vehicle.

[Leon Phelps]

Witnessed my father blast through Holy Cross in a totally stock 1968 Ford Bronco, on 31 inch mudders & a LS rear. He got all the way up to the city. Been 10 years since then, but I was impressed as hell then and I'm still impressed now, that he did it with NO breakage.

[Tom N]

Saw a stock tj with open diffs, no lift, small tires make it up bowling ball hill to the end of the wheeler Lakes trail with no breakage and another time a stock,open diff Ford Ranger pu with 31s make it also.

[newracer]

I saw a Ford Ranger make it through Chinaman. Lots of damage!!!

[Funrover]

Well The kid in the pictuure I go with often He has Run Eagle Rock, Chinamens Gultch and Grizzly Lake(in pic) and is stock!!!
http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c174/SteveChabala/LaborDayWeekend/DSCN1680.jpg

[CapnCrunch]

Just remembered...in June, when a bunch of us did Chinaman's, we had a stock TJ on street tires (IIRC) with us and he made it through with no damage that I know of.

AFAIK, he was new to wheeling also.

[Funrover]

Just remembered...in June, when a bunch of us did Chinaman's, we had a stock TJ on street tires (IIRC) with us and he made it through with no damage that I know of.

AFAIK, he was new to wheeling also.


My buddy Alex took his stock TJ up Chinamens....... That trail is great in a stocker.. I took my Rangie on it stock also!

[GPP33]

Stockers have done the Rubicon. None of the trails mentioned even hold a candle to the Rubicon, yes, even Holy Cross.

It's amazing what a little rock stacking can accomplish.

[MinesJeep]

I've done Carnage + Firemans Hill (Boulder) first trail I ran actually, Wheeler, Saran Wrap, Eagle Rock, Fins and Things, and a host of easier trails this summer all in a stock TJ on 30s open/open. I've got a little rocker panel damage, but otherwise no major failures yet.

[jtw2]

was that my brother when we ran it that time? I was in the red YJ on 36s and he was in the chili pepper red TJ. That took a lot of spotting getting him through there!

anyway, that and Carnage boulder were the two that I've seen a stocker make it through w/o damage.

Just remembered...in June, when a bunch of us did Chinaman's, we had a stock TJ on street tires (IIRC) with us and he made it through with no damage that I know of.

AFAIK, he was new to wheeling also.

[CapnCrunch]

was that my brother when we ran it that time? I was in the red YJ on 36s and he was in the chili pepper red TJ. That took a lot of spotting getting him through there!

anyway, that and Carnage boulder were the two that I've seen a stocker make it through w/o damage.


Yup, that's the one I'm thinking of.

[wileec]

I drove my Dads stick TJ on 31s from the factory up the chutes on Kelly Flats. It and my Bronco also made Wheeler lake no problem.

[ColoradoXJ]

i used to run spring creek in my stock xj, and ran red cone and radical hill stock too.

even took my brothers 2005 dodge ctd with street tires up redcone :D dat was da funny

[jimfoo]

i used to run spring creek in my stock xj, and ran red cone and radical hill stock too.

even took my brothers 2005 dodge ctd with street tires up redcone :D dat was da funny
I remember a guy in a Chevy dually ran up Red Cone with us. I guess he had taken it down Webster, which was washed out at the time, and was probably so afraid to take it back up, that he decided to do red Cone. Once we got to where Red Cone and Webster meet, he showed us the damage. The drivers side of the plastic outer bed was completely missing, broken off on a tree on a tight turn. The passenger side had a big hole and crack. He didn't think his wife would be happy.

[ColoradoXJ]

oops...

yeah, i had to tug him through one snow drift, but other than that, he was good. that ctd, in combination with 4lo and 1st gear, just crawled over everything.

[JPCHEF]

Ran up and back down Spring Creek through to top of rock garden and back down. No bypasses. 97TJ 4 hampsters, stock tranny, d-35 rear, no lift 31" AT's, open diffs, at night, by my lonesome 2001.
Stupid I know wheeling alone but that's how I used to run for years.

Same trail during the day, a roided jughead jock with a hot babe and TJ on 35's all chromed out with lockers and bolt on junk was stuck at the first little short rock section past the cliff area. After we tugged him out of his little prediciment, he looked in amazement and kinda embarrassed that I walked (throttled, ya know open diffs) up through the whole small rock section and even moreso through the rock garden. I think I had 2" body lift that time.

All about the tire placement and driver skill.

[Guammy]

We saw a GEO Tracker going up Radical Hill with 4 older heavy set people in it on street tires, another words it was pretty darn low to the ground.

We were parked just up from the rocky articulating section and he just weaved through it and never slowed or got hung up and motored on by right up the hill..

[mrladewig]

The hardest trails I've been on with stockers, it would have to be in Moab. I've driven with bone stock Rubicons on Steelbender and Golden Spike. The shovels took a beeting, but they all made it through without damage.

[Colin]

I drove my Dads stick TJ on 31s from the factory up the chutes on Kelly Flats. It and my Bronco also made Wheeler lake no problem.

I did the chutes stock no problem with my gf spotting me in my tj on 31's, its really not a hard obstacle unless your really tall IMHO

[BlazerZR2]

Ive done spring creek multipule times in my stock ZR2. Other than that just bill more lake and a bit of left hand.

[cwkelle]

in my scout i've done a lot of trail, but nothing like most of you guys do, the trail that crushed my 27 year old susp. was boulder gross, i was running around there got around a group of jeeps and it was down hill from there....cracked the spring plate clean, and got the scout lean that they get over the years.....have you guys ever ran around the gross?

[Toybronco]

geo tracker.. boulder carnage/lefthand canyon...

Got it on video too.. Only real damage was to exhaust

[THE STRANGER]

I saw a Ford Ranger make it through Chinaman. Lots of damage!!!

Was that me on the old fart's run 07 ?????????????????

[RJsfun]

Ran Holy Cross in a stock 97 Tacoma x-cab with 31 BFG all terrains.
Had to use a come along at the first spot where the tree is on the left and the rock face to the right, and someone winched us up French Creek.
Ended up with some serious rear bumper damage, and had to make some spacers where the rear driveshaft and t-case out meet after being hung up on some rocks.
As far as Moab, the right driver can get a BMW or Lexus SUV over most the trails.
Where is the Subaru up Carnage post?

[jtw2]

I'm trying to talk my neighbor into following me up Carnage in his purty new H3.

[wacky]

I ran Gold Bar Mesa in a stock XJ on street tires....up until the overlook where it joins with the Golden spike. No damage.

[Whitey]

We saw a GEO Tracker going up Radical Hill with 4 older heavy set people in it on street tires, another words it was pretty darn low to the ground.

We were parked just up from the rocky articulating section and he just weaved through it and never slowed or got hung up and motored on by right up the hill..

I know those folks! He's a darn good driver and been running dune buggies, tote goats and off road stuff for a very long time!


I bought my YJ in Nov 93' and in June or so of 94', I took it up Holy Cross. It was bone stock, still connected with the tract/sway bars, open diffs, etc.

Come to think of it, that was when I thought it'd be a good idea to modify it a bit. :D

[zukatude]

Saw a stock sammi cruise through Pritchett Canyon w/o damage:D
































JK...Actually I did see a close to stock (27" tires, gears, open both ends) sammi make it through Moab Rim w/o much trouble. In fact, they had more fun than all the built rigs that made it too easy:flipoff2:

[newracer]

Was that me on the old fart's run 07 ?????????????????Nope, it was Memorial weekend.

[trucruiser]

I did Kelly flats Chutes in my old stock 1970 fj40 back in the late 90's. thats when I was young and invincable.

[oleblue]

Mt Blanca in my Nissan Xterra, only thing not stock, sliders, gas tank skid, and tires, have 265/75/16. Stock they wre 265/70/16. But in all fairness. I was winched and strapped for a good part of the hard stuff and it was not fun.

Trails I have done without tugs or winching and damage, Spring Creek, Carnage Boulder and OCG (last 2 times I was pulled up the last obstical)

[mrutledge]

How 'bout seeing a 1970's VW bus go up Antero?

[CJ5in']

I hear there was a group of guys who took a stock Subaru wagon on China Wall...lol

[Ford Prefect]

I went up Iron Chest in a TJ with just a 2" BB. Open, stock gears and tires. Got a nice picture of the thing at the top.

someone told me later that they had made it easier so they could do work up there, and then they pushed the bigger rocks back. Never been back to confirm if it was the same or not. I have been on that trail twice, and it looked the same both times.


Brian

[oleblue]

Well back in 1982, there was some guys go up Holy Cross in a 82 Chev Luv 4x4. They were about 1/2 up from the 1st starting point to the cut in, exit, when I 1st saw them. I continued up all the way. On my way back they were at the 1st main obstical and it was beat to H.E double hockey sticks, but they were still going at it.

Asked them why they were beating up a new vehicle like that. They replied, because nobody has done it in a luv yet, we want to be the 1st to do the trail in one. No reply why a new one though.

Oh, edit to add, I was running it that day in a bone stock 80 CJ5.

[jtw2]

we ran holy cross in a pair of stock grand wagoneers about 25 years ago

[jimfoo]

I hear there was a group of guys who took a stock Subaru wagon on China Wall...lol

http://www.lrrforums.com/showthread.php?t=2250

[Funrover]

I hear there was a group of guys who took a stock Subaru wagon on China Wall...lol

LMAO!!!! That was such a fun day!! We are talking about taking the old suby out on other trails now!! LOL

[kensois@msn.com]

Did Schofield pass/ devils punchbowl in my stock 4 door s 10 blazer. The underneath of that thing was never the same after that. That's when I started looking for a Jeep.

[Jeff Mason]

Did schofield pass in a stock 88 trooper back on 1990, no problems other than blowing out a sidewall on the steep narrow rocky part. Wasn't much fun changing it there. Also did Poughkeepsie the same trip (from top to bottom) with no problems.

We took the stock sammi - with stock street tires - through chinamans a couple years ago with my son driving most of it. He was 15 at the time.

[jimfoo]

Of course the only problem with people saying I did this or that trail x many years ago, myself included, can be shown in the following photos.
http://forum.solihullsociety.org/cphoto//albums/userpics/normal_chris01.jpg
Lower section of Spring Creek rock garden maybe around 1986.
http://forum.solihullsociety.org/cphoto//albums/userpics/normal_chris02.jpg
About half way through the Rock Garden. This was the biggest rock in the trail. It had scrape marks on top...
http://forum.solihullsociety.org/cphoto//albums/userpics/normal_chris03.jpg
About half way through the Rock Garden, a little further up.
http://forum.solihullsociety.org/cphoto//albums/userpics/normal_chris04.jpg
Looking down from the upper section of the Rock Garden where if you go between the trees on the right, you may loose a window.
http://forum.solihullsociety.org/cphoto//albums/userpics/normal_chris05.jpg
Upper section of the rock garden.

How trails change......

[ArloGuthroJeep]

:lmao: What, you're saying SPring Creek doesn't look like that anymore?!?

I remember doing the Chutes @ Kelly Flats last year and having someone tell me they did it in their stock long bed pickup 20 years ago and how easy of an obstacle it was. That pissed me off considering I just made it with body damage...things change:rolleyes:

[JPCHEF]

Man those are some decent digital photos considering they are from 86.
What camera and mega pixels was that??:D

Just kidding!!!
My how things change.


Of course the only problem with people saying I did this or that trail x many years ago, myself included, can be shown in the following photos.
http://forum.solihullsociety.org/cphoto//albums/userpics/normal_chris01.jpg
Lower section of Spring Creek rock garden maybe around 1986.
http://forum.solihullsociety.org/cphoto//albums/userpics/normal_chris02.jpg
About half way through the Rock Garden. This was the biggest rock in the trail. It had scrape marks on top...
http://forum.solihullsociety.org/cphoto//albums/userpics/normal_chris03.jpg
About half way through the Rock Garden, a little further up.
http://forum.solihullsociety.org/cphoto//albums/userpics/normal_chris04.jpg
Looking down from the upper section of the Rock Garden where if you go between the trees on the right, you may loose a window.
http://forum.solihullsociety.org/cphoto//albums/userpics/normal_chris05.jpg
Upper section of the rock garden.

How trails change......

[Snotty]

The list is to long. But DaJudge here on the boards ran every trail he could in stock 97 TJ with open diffs and only on 31's. The list of trails is looooooong...

[DaJudge]

The list is to long. But DaJudge here on the boards ran every trail he could in stock 97 TJ with open diffs and only on 31's. The list of trails is looooooong...
Awwh! I wasn't going to say anything cuz it might sound like bragging. Moab Rim, Cliffhanger and Metal Masher were probably the toughest.

[XJSeth]

My friend ran lefthand in a 2dr stock xj with bald tires!! open open bone stock alot of skinny pedal and carefull driving made him get through it.

[Darcy]

That was me who ran left hand in the stock 97 2 door xj.... Man was that fun!!!Brought it on a trailer and all! The funny thing was My buddy had to drive the xj home and I had to put his rig on the trailer cus he broke down.. Then I had to come back and pick up my other buddys rig because he broke down as well. A bronco on 35's and a cj5 on 33's. And just to think I didnt break one thing, well alot of rock rash!!:flipoff2:

[GPP33]

alot of skinny pedal and carefull driving

Uh?

[pineneedle]

Back in 1962, we passed an abandoned 3/4 ton International 2wd pickup. He was past the second creek crossing and the French Creek ford, but broken down. He had chains on his rear tires. Also, down at Camp Fancy, on Fancy Creek, there used to be the remains of a Durant Star. I have no idea how it got there, but it had been there, I suppose, since the '20s.

Pineneedle

[Matt]

I ran Carnage LH this summer in a stock 4dr XJ w/bald 235/75's. A couple minor scrapes on the rockers, but that's it. Sure was a lot of fun!

I'll look for the pics.

[crowdedsilence]

One of my teachers took a stock honda civic up boulder carnage

[jtw2]

One of my teachers took a stock honda civic up boulder carnage

I'm calling :bs:

I can believe left hand maybe but there is no way a civic made it up carnage. no way.

[GPP33]

I'm calling :bs:

I can believe left hand maybe but there is no way a civic made it up carnage. no way.

X2, even dragging it. You couldn?t stack enough rocks in a whole weekend.

[crowdedsilence]

Hey, thats just what he said, i wasn't there, he said there was a lot of stacking.

[Darcy]

X3, :tisk: You mean someone drove over it at the trail head!!

[fifthcircle]

I have a stock 06 Tacoma TRD off road. I ran Fins-N-Things in Moab with very little trouble. I had a little trouble, because I was skeeered to scratch it up. I was with Jefe from this board(you know, the dork with the Red Socks avatar), and another friend with a stock (TJ?).

Now for my thread hijack:
What trail should I beg Jefe to lead me onto this October around the Boulder area. I am hoping to slap some sliders on before the trip.

[CJ5in']

http://www.lrrforums.com/showthread.php?t=2250

I know who the hooligans are, I almost went on that run. Too bad I had to be deathly ill that weekend...

[thunderstrike]

Stockers have done the Rubicon. None of the trails mentioned even hold a candle to the Rubicon, yes, even Holy Cross.

It's amazing what a little rock stacking can accomplish.

Thank you for your post on Rubicon. I have a stock TJ Sahara with 31" Goodyear MT/Rs mounted on Moabs. Have all the skids and a winch. I have been thinking about doing the Rubicon.

I'll have to remember stacking some rocks, and may even carry a short pair of ramps.

[Funrover]

I know who the hooligans are, I almost went on that run. Too bad I had to be deathly ill that weekend...



YOu were there in spirit! LOL

[Trango]

Back in 1962, we passed an abandoned 3/4 ton International 2wd pickup. He was past the second creek crossing and the French Creek ford, but broken down. He had chains on his rear tires. Also, down at Camp Fancy, on Fancy Creek, there used to be the remains of a Durant Star. I have no idea how it got there, but it had been there, I suppose, since the '20s.

Pineneedle

Awesome. Well, you know the HC city road continues on and contours around the mountain to the Fancy Drainage (of course it's all closed off now)... maybe that's how he got there???

[hurricane1000]

I'm calling :bs:

I can believe left hand maybe but there is no way a civic made it up carnage. no way.


last spring there was a guy in a honda passport on street tires running Boulder Carnage. i have some pictures of it somewhere.... man did he ever hold up traffic. :mad:

[Rambill II]

I have run up Holy Cross twice in stockers.

Once in a 1985 Nissan IFS truck with 235's. Got to the now closed off Mud bogs (dating myself here but this was close to 20 years ago, hell most of you on here probably don't even remember how bad the area just above French creek really was before they finally blocked it all off and let it recoup...) The MHJ club had about 15 Jeeps all stuck in the bogs and parked all over the place so we turned around parked at French Creek and went back up to watch the show.

The second time was with my brand new 1989 wrangler with 500 miles on it and 235's where we went up to the city and stopped due to snow in July.

Both of those were back when 31's were considered a big off road tire.....lol

[jimfoo]

Both of those were back when 31's were considered a big off road tire.....lol
You mean they're not any more?:flipoff2: Hey, it's not the size, it's how you use them.:D

[sonofmayhem]

Clay on the board ran eagle rock in the rain with a stock 94 toyota p/u.

[pineneedle]

Trango,

You are right about the road. It goes on up to Fancy Lake, and then up to within 550 yds. of the summit of Fancy Pass. However, I
think that the road to Camp Fancy took off from the Holy Cross City road near the old powder house (a half mile above the French Creek ford. If you watch carefully as you drive that section, just before the old mill, you can see a trace of the old road go down into the woods. I followed it once for a long way and then gave up for whatever reason. Anyway, the remains of the Durant Star are (were) impressive, particularly the ornate radiator and Durant Star emblem. I saw that stuff nearly 40 years ago, so I don't know how much of it, if any, is still there. Once when I was up at the City in the late '50s, a sheepherder with whom I was friends, found a one cylinder diesel down in the woods that has been used to power a Wilfley table, and he dragged it out to Gold Park on a makeshift travois.

Pineneedle

[JimhatTJ]

I went up Iron Chest in a TJ with just a 2" BB. Open, stock gears and tires. Got a nice picture of the thing at the top.

someone told me later that they had made it easier so they could do work up there, and then they pushed the bigger rocks back. Never been back to confirm if it was the same or not. I have been on that trail twice, and it looked the same both times.


Brian


yea the bigger rocks are now back in place. was a cake walk before, now it has a nice boulder field for the first 1/2 mile or so of it. i was able to get Loopi through it with her being on 33's and open

[ants]

I've been up Spring Creek, Chinmans Gulch & China Wall with a completely stock ZR2 S-10. As long as rock rash can be considered stock, LOL. Anthony

[Ric]

Carnage (Boulder) was with a guy in a STOCK 94 Toyota 4Runner, still has his running boards, NO lockers, NO we didnt stack rocks, NO winching, NO straping.
http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a47/Ric4rnr/2007/may%2019th%20Carnage/September%2011th%20Carnage/IMG_0265.jpg
http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a47/Ric4rnr/2007/may%2019th%20Carnage/September%2011th%20Carnage/IMG_0260.jpg
http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a47/Ric4rnr/2007/may%2019th%20Carnage/September%2011th%20Carnage/IMG_0228.jpg

[PeteCO]

I did Old Flowers Road, past the gate and up over the pass, all the way to the road on the other side in 2002.

In a Pontiac Grand Am.

[LandBruiser]

I did Carnage BV with my big body wagon,

by myself,


open diffs,



Oh,...and no damage!:D

[CLYDE]

stock scout thru carnage boulder a few times, no damage, no winching, no problems.

[gsellers]

Hancock Pass, from St.Elmo to Pitkin in stock F250 Crewcab 4x4, really got looks from the Jeeps on top!

[cataclysmcow]

Did Iron Chest in a stock '86 Mitsubishi Montero (aside from 31" Baja Claws). This was before the original rock garden was removed ('96ish - rock garden was removed '02ish)). IIRC I only had to stack once through the rock garden. I don't think I'd ever had a better lesson on learning where your pumpkins and plates are. My underside was perfectly polished in all the right spots. I wish I had that same rig still to try it again on the new rock garden.

When we got back down I was checking the underside for carnage when a group of modded CJ's showed up.

The group lead assumed that I got bashed on the first corner and turned back and tried to assure me that I'd never be able to do that trail. When I mentioned that I was actually on my way down from havin' lunch at the mine he seemed pretty upset.

That same year I took a stock FJ-40 (aside from a detroit in the rear) up Blanca Peak. Plenty of body damage to balance out my humility on that one though.

[cataclysmcow]

Hancock Pass, from St.Elmo to Pitkin in stock F250 Crewcab 4x4, really got looks from the Jeeps on top!
I ended up doing that in a '05 Subaru Outback last summer. Not that I'm trying to one up you ... man in a F250 crewcab open on both ends that must have been rough. A small AWD vehicle doesn't even compare.

Just wonderin' ... did you follow up with Tomichi? I'd love to see a F250 crewcab on Tomichi.

[rockjunkie]

i did jron chest in a stock yj with 30" tires in 98 before they changed it, no winch didnt put a strap on

[wileec]

Just wonderin' ... did you follow up with Tomichi? I'd love to see a F250 crewcab on Tomichi.

I pulled a extended Big Dodge pu off the edge a while ago guy had a come-along tied to his bumper with what looked like parachute cord and a srcub oak on the other when I got to him. Took a lot of winch angle to get him out of the way. Then about a mile of me backing up so he could pass.

[Jesse]

:lmao: What, you're saying SPring Creek doesn't look like that anymore?!?

I remember doing the Chutes @ Kelly Flats last year and having someone tell me they did it in their stock long bed pickup 20 years ago and how easy of an obstacle it was. That pissed me off considering I just made it with body damage...things change:rolleyes:

I run Kelly several time per year.

About a year ago I bypassed the Chutes in my stock ZJ.

There were no bypasses back in the day, so:
About 20 years ago I did the Chutes in a stock F150 and a stock K5.
About 30 years ago I did the Chutes in a stock CJ5.
About 40 years ago my dad did the Chutes in a stock 2wd 1950 dodge.

[Jesse]

I did Old Flowers Road, past the gate and up over the pass, all the way to the road on the other side in 2002.

In a Pontiac Grand Am.

LMAO!!! Same thing in my Grand Prix!!!!!!!!!!:D

[DETN8R]

I just want to pop back into this thread say I am really enjoying the recounting of these tales. BTW, PineNeedles thread is GREAT as well.

[luvmeye22re]

My buddy ran spring creek in his stock reg cab 2.7 taco on 31's. It beat the shit out of the truck but he made it all the way through.

[tmorgan4]

The rock quarry up at Moody was fun in a friend's stock 100 series cruiser.

[Thunk]

Had a stock Cadillac Eldorado pass me going the otherway on 7-mile once. Now 7-Mile is a cake walk but comon> a caddy?:shrug:

[7LBRONCO]

In my bone stock 70 K5, 6 cylinder, 3 speed, I did most of Chinamans. I turned back when the steering wheel had crumpled to nothing but the wire rim.

Went to Moab last month in my stock 78 Bronco(with 33" ATs). I ran Hells Revenge with a bad PS pump and a steering box that would lock up. Going back next year with 4" lift and 37s.

[Sj410kid]

took a BONE STOCK samurai through chinamans in Buena Vista, was substaintually hard:flipoff2:

[Mitch]

1998. Holy Cross to the city. No stacking. 1989 Dodge Raider. I guess it wasn't a stocker because I had 31's on at the time :rolleyes:


http://pics.montypics.com/mitch/2004-04-07/1081375016_msr_back_creek2.jpg

[coexplorer94]

not necessarily stocker, but i did carnage in my yj with no powersteering and 32's.. fun times. i miss my jeep.........

[jimfoo]

I've gone up Carnage BV in some stock vans.










































After I got done walking it, I decided there was no way in hell I'd drive my truck up it.:flipoff2:

[Yucca-Man]

Stockers have done the Rubicon. None of the trails mentioned even hold a candle to the Rubicon, yes, even Holy Cross.

It's amazing what a little rock stacking can accomplish.I did the Rubicon back in '03 in the Rubicon Outfitters XJ. There was a local gal running it in her stock 48 Willys wearing NDTs...no rock-stacking either. Of course, with a Jeep that light, it didn't take much to get her relocated and moving again either.

[Taz]

This is definately a fun thread to read. Keep them coming!

[Starkman]

I took my stock Ranger through Spring Creek.


Heres how it went:

Friend rolls his Toy on the hump rock (don't know the name) I bypass and spend two hours getting his truck righted and running again. He and some others go home. Me and two others continue. The other 4xs are a Explorer with 36 Irocs locked front and rear and another Ranger with the same.

1. Gate Keeper

Smashed my front bumper against the first big rock, stuck. Backed up and tried to climb the rock with right front wheel. It went up about a foot and slid down and I was stuck on the rock. Hooked up strap and my bud who was leading drags me up over the obstacle.

Damage:
Bend bumper and scraped all of the skidplates.

2. Rock Garden

Looked up at it and was very scared! But can't really go back now. Smashed TTB against rock in the first 10 feet. Hit hard enough I thought it should have deployed airbags. Slowly pick my way to the bypass. The one on the right side. They tell me that it was the bypass. I said that you are freekin kidding me! I start through the bypass and immediatly hit a root with the bed and dent it very nicely! After a few realighnments to my line I make it through. I had spent so much time looking at the bypass I thought I was done, NO. I was spotted through the next 50 feet and made it with little drama. I was full of adreniline (SP) at that point and promtly smashed my mirror into and tree and its distroyed! OK, slowly pick my way through to the top.

Damage
Bed side pushed in but able to pop it out with only a small crease. Mirror gone and a dent and scrape on door where it pinned it. Clutch ware bad but unknown.

Moral of this story.
Making it through a trail is one thing, bouncing off every rock and destoying your ride is another.

PS, after that experience I now have 6" of lift, 33" tires and lockers, winch, sliders and more. I did that trail by myself at the end of this summer with only a few issues.

[celear]

I had never done any 4 wheeling when I picked up a sweet deal on a 1999 stock Wrangler TJ that had never been off-road. My first venture was with a friend who was driving a lifted Jeep Cherokee. The Battlement Lakes trail was only a couple of miles from where I live so why not? I did not even know enough to lower the tire pressure.

With my wife as spotter, we crawled to the lakes without mishap. I have to admit that when I arrived, my mouth was too dry to spit. My major worry was, "How will I ever get back down that trail?" After two nights camping, we made it back down in the totally stock TJ.

Since then, the TJ has been lifted 4 inches. The tires have been upgraded to 33 x 12.5 Dick Cepek's. Differentials have been regeared with a TruTrack rear differential.

I love that little Jeep! :)

[jredmond]

The worst trail that I have done is a stocker is Heart Attack Hill at Kelly Flats in a stock 01 dodge ram short bed reg cab. Thats all I got. I just wanted to be part of this thread

[02RangerFX4]

I took my stock Bronco up Carnage Canyon Boulder, suffered damage, but I made it. Starkman was there watching it all (running a different tag name over here for no apparent reason but because I felt that way)