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princess
August 28th, 2007, 10:37 AM
My POS light in the kitchen is out again. :rant: I replaced the balist, both of them, about a year ago and they are shot already. I knew I should have replaced the lighting then.

Don't really have a chioce now. :shrug:
Bauer
August 28th, 2007, 10:38 AM
Just swing by Denny's on your way to Home Depot. :thumbsup:
princess
August 28th, 2007, 10:43 AM
Just swing by Denny's on your way to Home Depot. :thumbsup:

You're still there? :eek: Can't you get your backside out of the chair?
Bauer
August 28th, 2007, 10:48 AM
Nope my shorts were too short and my legs are stuck to the vinyl :eek:

It may be a while..
princess
August 28th, 2007, 10:50 AM
Nope my shorts were too short and my legs are stuck to the vinyl :eek:

It may be a while..

OMG!!! Don't give us that kind of a visual.
Bauer
August 28th, 2007, 10:54 AM
Just think 80's jogging shorts (bright yellow) and white socks all the way to the knees.. With a Van Halen t-shirt..
Oscar
August 28th, 2007, 10:55 AM
That modern up to date fashion for GJ
CLYDE
August 28th, 2007, 10:55 AM
Hi Deb:D
Bauer
August 28th, 2007, 10:59 AM
That modern up to date fashion for GJ


Yup finally trickled over from Olathe.. :D
princess
August 28th, 2007, 10:59 AM
Just think 80's jogging shorts (bright yellow) and white socks all the way to the knees.. With a Van Halen t-shirt..

They put old guys away when they start going out into public looking like that.

Hi Deb:D

Hey Grumpy ol' Biker, how the heck are ya?
Oscar
August 28th, 2007, 11:12 AM
Yup finally trickled over from Olathe.. :D
Last time I lived in Olathe was 84 ... chicks wore poodle skirts and guys wore white t shirts then
ColoradoSkier
August 28th, 2007, 01:06 PM
Last time I lived in Olathe was 84 ... chicks wore poodle skirts and guys wore white t shirts then

Is it the other way around there now? :D
Oscar
August 28th, 2007, 01:12 PM
Probably
TwoDogs
August 28th, 2007, 02:18 PM
My POS light in the kitchen is out again. :rant: I replaced the balist, both of them, about a year ago and they are shot already. I knew I should have replaced the lighting then.

Don't really have a chioce now. :shrug:



Place the O-N / O-F-F switch, into the O-N position!! :flipoff2:

O-F-F does not stand for On Full Force!! :D
89minitruck
August 28th, 2007, 02:38 PM
Last time I lived in Olathe was 84 ... chicks wore poodle skirts and guys wore white t shirts then



But it is still funny...
Bauer
August 28th, 2007, 02:44 PM
O-F-F does not stand for On Full Force!! :D

:spit:
princess
August 28th, 2007, 10:31 PM
:spit:

Oh he's not funny....:flipoff2:


Doesn't matter anyway because I bought new lighting today.

One stainless steel fan with 8 halogen can lights. :D These will go on no matter what.
princess
August 29th, 2007, 04:02 PM
I thought joists were supposed to be 16" on center. The ones in my ceiling are 24" and those are right in the middle of where I want to put my lights.
CSP
August 29th, 2007, 05:41 PM
Truss spacing (joists support the floor) depends on snow load, materials used, and truss design. Mine are 2x6 on 24" centers on a brand new home with a 40lbs/sq ft snow load.
YotaRunner
August 29th, 2007, 09:51 PM
Truss spacing (joists support the floor) depends on snow load, materials used, and truss design. Mine are 2x6 on 24" centers on a brand new home with a 40lbs/sq ft snow load.

16s are common for floors and walls... And sometimes trusses like CDP said. But should be 16 if your room in question is on the first floor of a 2 story design. 24 is just as common pending on material used for the roof system.

The power box from the old light should be attached to at least one ceiling truss/rafter???

Can you get up into the attic at all? If you can find the trusses and cut some blocking to span them with 2x4s, shoot some screws, and you should be good to go!!
princess
August 29th, 2007, 11:02 PM
Can you get up into the attic at all? If you can find the trusses and cut some blocking to span them with 2x4s, shoot some screws, and you should be good to go!!

I was trying to stay out of that bug factory but Lowes didn't have the convertor cans that I need so I guess I'm going up in the morning.

Did I say no more balists? I think I spoke a bit too soon. :shrug:

I really hate crawl spaces and attics.
princess
August 29th, 2007, 11:04 PM
Truss spacing (joists support the floor) depends on snow load, materials used, and truss design. Mine are 2x6 on 24" centers on a brand new home with a 40lbs/sq ft snow load.

Tells you just how much ceiling work I've done. Painting yes, holes no.
oleblue
August 29th, 2007, 11:18 PM
Homes are so much fun. I got tired of replacing the balists yearly. So I said the heck with it and replaced everything, except the wires in the house. Replaced complete fixtures and switches. Been working for 2 years now :D
princess
August 29th, 2007, 11:22 PM
Homes are so much fun. I got tired of replacing the balists yearly. So I said the heck with it and replaced everything, except the wires in the house. Replaced complete fixtures and switches. Been working for 2 years now :D

I've been pig-tailing the wiring as I go because I am NOT replacing all of it. :rant:
Dave McDonald
August 30th, 2007, 10:44 AM
Oh he's not funny....:flipoff2:


Doesn't matter anyway because I bought new lighting today.

One stainless steel fan with 8 halogen can lights. :D These will go on no matter what.

I've got can lights in all the bedrooms. They shut off if they overheat. Mine are rated to have insulation blown over 'em, but I'm going to have to go up and build boxes over them. After about an hour, the rooms turn into a light show.

Compact flourescent bulbs don't make 'em overheat, but the blue color makes the room look like a Sting concert.
princess
August 30th, 2007, 11:26 AM
I've got can lights in all the bedrooms. They shut off if they overheat. Mine are rated to have insulation blown over 'em, but I'm going to have to go up and build boxes over them. After about an hour, the rooms turn into a light show.

Compact flourescent bulbs don't make 'em overheat, but the blue color makes the room look like a Sting concert.

I went to Lowe's to get the boxes and they were out, HD also. I cut into the ceiling this morning and I think I can pull out enough insulation to clear 3" all around. The only thing that is a pain is that there's about a 5" layer of loose insulation with about the same of sheet on top of that. Got a face full of the loose stuff as soon as the hole was done.
princess
August 30th, 2007, 02:17 PM
Someone should be SHOT! I just opened the box from the old light to tap into the wires. :rant:

I'm going into the attic now. :eek: If you don't hear from me in about 2 hours you'll know that the bugs got me or I got pissed and fell through.

A new balist is looking better all the time. :shrug:
Leon Phelps
August 30th, 2007, 02:25 PM
LMFAO, should I take bets on which one happens first.

Dont Kill me Princess..... please :D
princess
August 30th, 2007, 04:46 PM
This is NOT flippen funny. Entrance to my attic. That's the garage
http://s173.photobucket.com/albums/w56/PrincessWheels/th_PICT00162.jpg

Once you get up to the opening.
http://s173.photobucket.com/albums/w56/PrincessWheels/th_PICT00182.jpg

I need to figure out another option here. That is maybe, MAYBE, 18".

The person who designed this house was on some serious crack.
princess
August 30th, 2007, 04:48 PM
LMFAO, should I take bets on which one happens first.

Dont Kill me Princess..... please :D

Getting pissed real fast here. :rant: Not making any promises about your life either.
Leon Phelps
August 30th, 2007, 04:51 PM
I bet. In ALL honesty, you gotta army crawl around up there. Upside it looks in decent shape and not a giant venus fly trap. I knows it suckers, working on my folks house every 6 weeks, and the attic and I have became BEST friends.
princess
August 30th, 2007, 05:53 PM
Soooooo, I called my son and asked him how he found anything in that attic last year when we did the cooler. I just wanted to know if he moved all of that insulation because in some areas it's three layers high. :shrug:

OMG!!!!!! He had a flippen fit.

"Mom, you are not going in there"............"Mom, NO it's too hot up there and how are you going to get back down without someone holding the ladder?...........MOTHER, if you go in that attic I'm going to be really pissed at you". I'm never called mother, maybe a mother. :flipoff2:

Geeeeeeeze, when did he get so bossy?

Guess I'm waiting until Saturday to finish the wiring.
oleblue
August 30th, 2007, 06:54 PM
Just ask my son to come do that work for you. He found the cable TV cable in our attic, looks just like yours. Just make sure he takes his asthma meds first.
princess
August 30th, 2007, 07:22 PM
Just ask my son to come do that work for you. He found the cable TV cable in our attic, looks just like yours. Just make sure he takes his asthma meds first.

LOL, He might have something to say about that. I know he likes me but that might be pushing it a bit.


And you sent that kid up there when he has asthma?????? :tisk:
oleblue
August 30th, 2007, 07:53 PM
I felt bad after. BUt in all fairness, I did not send him up, he just went on his own.

But for real, ask him. He just might do it.
princess
August 30th, 2007, 08:10 PM
he just went on his own.

That's because you have a very nice son and he always wants to help. Alex said that he would go up there on Saturday so I'll just have everything ready and he'll just have to fish wires. I might re-texture the ceiling tomorrow and then I'll just have to paint when all is done.